VN Ren'Py My Goddess [v0.01] [Blackthunder_vn]

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LWtbo

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Regarding the revenge thing. From what the game has shown so far, revenge/anger doesnt seem to be a big thing for the MC.
I respectfully disagree the MC was more than angry at his dad and his EX.
The MC let it be known he was more than pissed at them both.
No mate I'm sorry but the only thing that wasn't a thing for the MC was physical violence.
It's my impression from the game that Revenge and Anger are definitely a thing for the MC.

As for the revenge part you seem to forget the Dinner with his Godess that was all about revenge..
It may not of been his revenge but the MC took great delite in taking her revenge out on her EX.
Which implies that he may not activly look for it but given the opportunity at revenge on his dad and ex.
He would be more than willingly to take it.

And I'm even willing to bet that most players here would be more than delighted to see him take that revenge.
Which for revenge sake kind of means their further involvement is extreamly necessary and desireable.

Just saying
 
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Grimlar

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I respectfully disagree the MC was more than angry at his dad and his EX.
The MC let it be known he was more than pissed at them both.

As for the revenge part you seem to forget the Dinner with his Godess that was all about revenge..

And I'm even willing to bet that most players here would be more than delighted to see him take that revenge.
The MC was so consumed by anger that he left the flat without confrontation? Without even saying a word? It doesn't have to get physical, but to say and do nothing? Im sorry I dont really buy that explanation.

Im not saying the ex girlfriend and father dont deserve some karma adjustment, and Riley and London both strike me as people who might well arrange that, with or without the MCs involvement, but I dont think the MC (or Edith for that matter) are the kind of people who would waste time making someone feel bad, someone who is now irrelevant to them, as opposed to making someone who is important feel good.

As for the dinner with Ediths ex, thats easy. First of all, he insisted on it, not Edith or the MC. The plan for the dinner is Rileys, not Ediths or the MCs. All he has to do is pretend to be Ediths boyfriend, support Edith in whatever she says, make her feel wonderful and not let the ex get away with any bullshit. Basically to let Edith be the confident, self assured person she obviously is when it comes to business. Which is why Edith pays off the escort and largely controls the conversation so that the ex feels insignificant at the end. Apart from the way the ex tries to treat Edith I can't see that the MC is bothered about him at all.

I could easily be wrong, I accept that. Maybe the MC is thinking about revenge all through the dinner and the marathon sex session afterwards. But I hope for Ediths sake that isnt so.

To be honest I could see the two exs and the father coming back into the story in the future. Ediths ex to try and make trouble in order to get more money. The father, hearing that the MC has come into some money also wanting 'his share' of that. Dalia abandoned, pregnant, struggling as a single mother. Whilst the child isnt hia, (or perhaps it is?) it would still be at least his half brother or sister. But thats all speculation, which could be completely wrong.

The real question is what kind of MC do you want to read about? One that spends time enjoying someone elses misery? Or one that spends time helping those around him, building a new family? You could have both I guess, but they dont really sound like the same person to me.

Anyway Blackthunder is the one writing this and I'm sure he is far better at it than I am. So lets see what he comes up with and how he explains it.
 
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LWtbo

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The MC was so consumed by anger that he left the flat without confrontation? Without even saying a word? It doesn't have to get physical, but to say and do nothing? Im sorry I dont really buy that explanation.

Im not saying the ex girlfriend and father dont deserve some karma adjustment, and Riley and London both strike me as people who might well arrange that, with or without the MCs involvement, but I dont think the MC (or Edith for that matter) are the kind of people who would waste time making someone feel bad, someone who is now irrelevant to them, as opposed to making someone who is important feel good.

As for the dinner with Ediths ex, thats easy. First of all, he insisted on it, not Edith or the MC. The plan for the dinner is Rileys, not Ediths or the MCs. All he has to do is pretend to be Ediths boyfriend, support Edith in whatever she says, make her feel wonderful and not let the ex get away with any bullshit. Basically to let Edith be the confident, self assured person she obviously is when it comes to business. Which is why Edith pays off the escort and largely controls the conversation so that the ex feels insignificant at the end. Apart from the way the ex tries to treat Edith I can't see that the MC is bothered about him at all.

I could easily be wrong, I accept that. Maybe the MC is thinking about revenge all through the dinner and the marathon sex session afterwards. But I hope for Ediths sake that isnt so.

To be honest I could see the two exs and the father coming back into the story in the future. Ediths ex to try and make trouble in order to get more money. The father, hearing that the MC has come into some money also wanting 'his share' of that. Dalia abandoned, pregnant, struggling as a single mother. Whilst the child isnt hia, (or perhaps it is?) it would still be at least his half brother or sister. But thats all speculation, which could be completely wrong.

The real question is what kind of MC do you want to read about? One that spends time enjoying someone elses misery? Or one that spends time helping those around him, building a new family? You could have both I guess, but they dont really sound like the same person to me.

Anyway Blackthunder is the one writing this and I'm sure he is far better at it than I am. So lets see what he comes up with and how he explains it.
Respectfully again I disagree first of all if someone like the MC who normally seems to hate resorting to physical violence.
Then when extreamly angry walking away without word is exactly what they should do.
Saying something, anything could and probably would would of led to a confrontation.
And that would be enough that it could and probably would of led to Violence which he didn't want.

Now i'm not 100% sure as I'm not a psychologist by any stretch of the imagination.
But I do know being one of them myself that anyone that has had anger issues.
Are advised to both count to 10 before responding to anyone causing the anger and if thats not possible.
To quickly and without comment remove ourselves from the scene coursing said anger.
And thats exactly what the MC did now I'm not saying he has Anger issues but he says himself he was extreamly pissed off.
And every one reacts diffrently but if he was extreamly angry as it sujests then what he did walking out without word.
Still makes sense.

And It's nice that you think that about the MC and Edith and it did have all thoughs possitive effects.
But what you described is in essence revenge and certain types of revenge can have them cathartic possitive effects.
They didn't go looking for it specifically it started as a means to stop the EX-husbands attemp to humiliate Edith.
But when the opportunity arose they took it with both hands.
It was to put him in his place but thats it self can be a form of revenge.
And Edith adding when telling her husband by the way he's not just my lover he's Londons and Rileys.
Knowing that her husbands dislike of the two was simply because of his frustration.
That despite his own efforts he had failed miserably to bed either of them himself.
That was just her way of adding icing on her revenge cake.

Now the issue is this if you are right about the MC and Edith being people who would not willing take revenge.
Even if the opportunity just happends to present it's self.
Then he wouldn't of agreed to help Edith in the first place and She would not of agreed to him helping either.
Especially since Riley pretty much indicates it's for revenge on the EX-Husband.

As much as I'd like you to be right I have to say in this case I think your mostly wronge.
So I think we should just both agree to disagree.

P.S. i should just add you are right the MC was not thinking of revenge for himself during that dinner.
But he would of been thinking about how to help in Edith's revenge.

Just Sayin.
 
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shamtiiomi

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I'm confused, if the idea wasn't to make NTR, why render and even animate the scene while the MC stands still watching them fuck?
is incidental and part of the why mc is going along with the plot.....i know for some ppl this is pretty dramatic but man,....i always prefer see with my own eyes than read it about it,...this give me a final closure....
 

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is incidental and part of the why mc is going along with the plot.....i know for some ppl this is pretty dramatic but man,....i always prefer see with my own eyes than read it about it,...this give me a final closure....
I have to agree, I do not get why some people get so hanged up on the whole NTR thing... that scene wasn't even NTR, it was cheating, yes, but not NTR. As far as I understand it, for NTR to exist, there has to be a component of humiliation that the character actively seeks, like he hates it but can't do anything about it and can't stop seeing it.

Here, the MC saw what his GF and father were doing, didn't stop to revel on it, didn't behave like a cuck, he immediately cut both of them out of his life and moved on.

I also prefer to be shown than told, after all, this is a VISUAL Novel. And this is a very important background point of why the MC moves, why he cuts his father off his life... etc.

Now, if the GF was to ever return and we were not even given a choice to take her back or not... then yeah, I would understand being upset. But as far as I have understood, the GF will never come back (and, if she ever does, I hope we have the option to tell her to GTFO).
 

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I have to agree, I do not get why some people get so hanged up on the whole NTR thing... that scene wasn't even NTR, it was cheating, yes, but not NTR. As far as I understand it, for NTR to exist, there has to be a component of humiliation that the character actively seeks, like he hates it but can't do anything about it and can't stop seeing it.

Here, the MC saw what his GF and father were doing, didn't stop to revel on it, didn't behave like a cuck, he immediately cut both of them out of his life and moved on.

I also prefer to be shown than told, after all, this is a VISUAL Novel. And this is a very important background point of why the MC moves, why he cuts his father off his life... etc.

Now, if the GF was to ever return and we were not even given a choice to take her back or not... then yeah, I would understand being upset. But as far as I have understood, the GF will never come back (and, if she ever does, I hope we have the option to tell her to GTFO).
GF/Dad try to come back in his life Edith and her 2sexpots going to destroy them.
 
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SlapE

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Unless Blackthunder changes his mind, he's already said the father won't be appearing in the story again, he might be referenced/mentioned at times, but won't be involved in the story or appear on screen.

The Ex-Gf will though, and I'm hoping it will be glorious when it happens. Hopefully we get to see her drowning in despair.
 

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is incidental and part of the why mc is going along with the plot.....i know for some ppl this is pretty dramatic but man,....i always prefer see with my own eyes than read it about it,...this give me a final closure....
If it is so incidental than giving a choice to show it or not would have changed nothing.
 
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shamtiiomi

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If it is so incidental than giving a choice a choice to show it or not would have changed nothing.
what for ? isnt ntr is straight up cheating,.....and you will not have any kind of relationship with any of both in the future ,only maybe to destroy some relationship.....if is so important to you or strees you out ,...maybe this is not the kind of game for you....whats happend here isnt so biggie,....you can chek another game with similars problems and chek yourself ,what kind of reaction comes from you,...[consort,making memories]those 2 have pretty much the same and they are completely different on terms of how you can react or not to....
 

Blackthunder_vn

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The scene is important for the story, for players who likes story and story building.

That "5 simple clicks" is thought for player who dont like to read and understand the story, it was a hint how fast they can get over it.

Like it or don't like it it's your choice. Play it and enjoy a I think good game or search for another.

This scene will not get changed, it's part of the games story.
 

Groundwire

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The scene is important for the story, for players who likes story and story building.

That "5 simple clicks" is thought for player who dont like to read and understand the story, it was a hint how fast they can get over it.

Like it or don't like it it's your choice. Play it and enjoy a I think good game or search for another.

This scene will not get changed, it's part of the games story.
I did not say change the scene. Just wanted to point you are contradicting yourself in relation to the scene.
 

LWtbo

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So the scene is important.

So the scene is not important.
So it seems the scene is important and not important. Feels a little contradictory.
Had he just lost his job.
Then the MC could he be drinking his sorrows away sure but then he would be just as likely to be drinking at home.
And in a normal world hopefully with his father and girlfriend to help commiserate with him.
So the scene is important to the story it adds context as to why the MC leaves home and why he's drinking in that hotel.
Which is how and why he meets Riley London and Edith when they walk in complaining amongst themselves.
About her cheating Ex-Husbands latest trick.

Did it need to be shown yes and then again no it certainly added impact.
But MC could of just explained it while lementing to the bar-woman instead.
However even if you didn't like it them Five simple clicks and you allready knew exactly why he's there at that hotel .
He's getting drunk with his sorrows and also why he is willing to consider helping edith with her revenge plot.

Some will allways say its not needed and some will say it is (I'm ok with it) but I would say if this was a film.
These a very very good chance thats one of the early scnene's init.

Just Sayin.
 
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Groundwire

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Did it need to be shown yes and then again no it certainly added impact.
But MC could of just explained it while lementing to the bar-woman instead.
I don't think the scene added impact the way the dev wanted. That would have been a better way to do the scene imo. It has the same effect as showing the scene for the story while being less divisive.
 

LWtbo

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I don't think the scene added impact the way the dev wanted. That would have been a better way to do the scene imo. It has the same effect as showing the scene for the story while being less divisive.
Personally I have to disagree with you but thats my opinion.
I do think it added less impact myself as well but for a diffrent reason..
To me the only thing is in my opinion is its maybe 2 to 3 clicks tolong.
He would of been better to condenced the MC's thoughts into maybe two or at a push three clicks worth.
Because at the five clicks it takes now (as some have kind of mentioned).
It's almost like it's verging on the edge of voyeurism.
Than actual SHOCK and AWE but again thats my opinion only.
 
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BlasKyau

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She will eventually return on screen, but without a choice or anything.

Mc will get his revenge and then she can straight go to hell.
I'm probably weird, but I prefer to skip the revenge and focus on the romance. If the ex-girlfriend reappears in the game, the only interaction I expect the MC to have with her is to tell her to leave and not come back, and then she disappears from the game forever.

The scene is important for the story, for players who likes story and story building.

That "5 simple clicks" is thought for player who dont like to read and understand the story, it was a hint how fast they can get over it.

Like it or don't like it it's your choice. Play it and enjoy a I think good game or search for another.

This scene will not get changed, it's part of the games story.
I used CTRL the moment I assumed the scene was happening, and then I had to use History to read everything I had skipped that happened after the scene.
 

SlapE

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I'm probably weird, but I prefer to skip the revenge and focus on the romance. If the ex-girlfriend reappears in the game, the only interaction I expect the MC to have with her is to tell her to leave and not come back, and then she disappears from the game forever.
Yeah? Well, a lot of us don't prefer that. I don't agree with revenge cheating (which this isn't), but revenge in general to teach someone some humility and compassion is exactly what is needed in this case. It sounds like it will be a small section of the game, it doesn't really take away from the story or the romance.
 

BlasKyau

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Yeah? Well, a lot of us don't prefer that. I don't agree with revenge cheating (which this isn't), but revenge in general to teach someone some humility and compassion is exactly what is needed in this case. It sounds like it will be a small section of the game, it doesn't really take away from the story or the romance.
I don't really have proof of this, but I suspect that most people will want revenge.
 
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