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How would you like the game to progress?

  • Keep going as Visual Novel with some choices and linear story

    Votes: 1,699 65.1%
  • Branch to sandbox with map, stats and RPG elements at certain point

    Votes: 910 34.9%

  • Total voters
    2,609
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BigTTiger

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If you go back to the conversations about this part in this thread right after it came out before remake, while mc was actually turned on by it, this forum hated it and saw as a form of dreaded NTR, so now the mc hates it. The people has spoken, I'd rather make them hook up though
Could always put the "option" back in if you really wanted to have it as a choice at the beginning on or off
 
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Will we be able to help Stella hook up with Cathy? The protagonist's dialogue makes it sound like sharing her is completely off the table, but, like... You know what's better than hypnotizing your two sisters and your mom? Hypnotizing your two sisters and your two moms. :WeSmart:
not every game need lesbians..

There are enough of those already with every harem game, or game in general, turning into a big lesbian party.

And I would say I wouldn't mind as long as IT'S AVOIDABLE in general when it comes to lesbian.
Not everyone likes it.

I can tolerate in group sex situations, but just lesbian? nah, boring to me.

It's just at the beginning it was teased, and implemented wrong where Stella was already damn near groping the mom, pinning her against the wall, and confessing to her early on before the rework with the MC just looking at it like ntr voyeur situation saying how "it's hawt" which I disagree with, and no choice to disable lesbian, or nothing.

I am damn sure not interested in seeing any of the MC's family hooking up with anyone not named MC.
woman, or not.:HideThePain:

It gave off a bad vibe imo, And I have seen it to many times when it comes to VNs and lesbians which makes me wary.

In general, I like the way it is now, and the dev did say before that it would be avoidable if you want to encourage poly or not, so if he adds it back, as long as I can shut it down then I am a happy camper.
 
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ghjghjghj

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I just feel the need to throw this out there, as I've seen it pop up weirdly frequently in all sorts of mediums...

If you're making something, and you feel the need to preemptively toss out a disclaimer about a choice you made being shitty... You're almost certainly right, so why are you sticking with it?
 

WastedTalent

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If you go back to the conversations about this part in this thread right after it came out before remake, while mc was actually turned on by it, this forum hated it and saw as a form of dreaded NTR, so now the mc hates it. The people has spoken, I'd rather make them hook up though
It would definitely be better if they hooked up and stella helped mc corrupt the fam... and joined in the fun... bunch of whiners ruining a good plot...

Edit: Your facepalms even prove my point. So let's get a few things straight about NTR. First of all there needs to be a relationship between character A and B besides familial or friendship an actual romantic relationship, not an imagined one, not a future one, not I want this person and if I can't have them first and be the only person to have them it's those three letters. Secondly, NTR and I'm going off the real definition not the f95 definition is when one partner cheats on the other with the intention of causing hurt feelings or extreme jealousy after the first condition of a romantic relationship being established has been met. Thirdly there are a lot of players who like threesomes and lesbian content if it's not your thing go play those pure vn's that boost your little napoleon complex ego and let you solo bang god knows how many LI's. If you want to see a game with actual lesbian NTR go look at Triple ex. What was introduced here was good for the plot. Now, I bet it's going to take even longer to get to the really good content because dev's very often have a difficult time shifiting from their original plan to this crybaby agenda of appeasing the crybaby egos.
 
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Not_1_Fan

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Hi The Naughty Three,

Love your game so far, wanted to know if the game has gallery to revisit or see which scenes player missed, coz I saw ur comment somewhere saying to chose Helen instead of Lucy to access more scenes. I had selected Lucy for first hypnosis.
 

batmantitties

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This game's art is great, I love good 2D artwork in games (much more than good 3D artwork) and this game definitely has it. A gallery would be a great addition to it and also a warning on choices that lead to a game over, nobody likes game overs in these games and while some choices may be obvious, others I checked out of curiosity hoping this game would surprise me with something different but unfortunately it didn't. And speaking of surprises, there were none in this game, so far it basically feels like a copy of Tamas Awakening or something like that, and having the clichés of the MC returning home after X period of time, the dead or otherwise missing father and the sister that is a bitch for no good reason didn't help. While I think the whole hypnosis thing is stupid, that's not my problem with this game, this game could be great if it tried to be original, take some risks.
 
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The Naughty Three

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This game's art is great, I love good 2D artwork in games (much more than good 3D artwork) and this game definitely has it. A gallery would be a great addition to it and also a warning on choices that lead to a game over, nobody likes game overs in these games and while some choices may be obvious, others I checked out of curiosity hoping this game would surprise me with something different but unfortunately it didn't. And speaking of surprises, there were none in this game, so far it basically feels like a copy of Tamas Awakening or something like that, and having the clichés of the MC returning home after X period of time, the dead or otherwise missing father and the sister that is a bitch for no good reason didn't help. While I think the whole hypnosis thing is stupid, that's not my problem with this game, this game could be great if it tried to be original, take some risks.
Thank you for your honest opinion. There is a reason, a well-drawn 2d game takes less risks, since there has to be a budget for the art. Most 3d games on the site are done in DAZ 3D or Honey Select, where dev can pretty much do the graphic themselves. With 2D that doesn't use AI you either have to be the artist or pay the artist. And when you pay the artist, then you need to strive to make your money back. And then you start looking at the game as a commercial endevour. And even where one does take risks, like I did when adding the Helen's 'game over', or Stella&Mom scene - I always got flak for that right on this forum, not for Patrons or Steam users though. So, yeah, this game is fairly conservative. And also, more importantly, I like it this way. I like a good classic sometimes. It's right there in the game description under "developer notes" spoiler: we wanted to make a classic incest slow corruption game but do it well, and that's exactly what this is.

As for hypnosis, you'd be suprised but actual hypnotherapy scripts are used in the game, when it comes to treating anorgasmia, helping with weight loss, concentration and stress, obviously the sexual corruption part is fictionalized, it wouldn't work so easily, but hypnosis in the game is realistc, and if you think that hypnosis is bullshit overall, I have some studies on pubmed and other sources to counter it, but again as you said it's not your problem with the game, so there is no place for argument.
 
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The Naughty Three

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Hi The Naughty Three,

Love your game so far, wanted to know if the game has gallery to revisit or see which scenes player missed, coz I saw ur comment somewhere saying to chose Helen instead of Lucy to access more scenes. I had selected Lucy for first hypnosis.
next version of the game will have gallery feature and choices that lead to game overs will have a warning label to save
 
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not every game need lesbians..

There are enough of those already with every harem game, or game in general, turning into a big lesbian party.

And I would say I wouldn't mind as long as IT'S AVOIDABLE in general when it comes to lesbian.
Not everyone likes it.

I can tolerate in group sex situations, but just lesbian? nah, boring to me.

It's just at the beginning it was teased, and implemented wrong where Stella was already damn near groping the mom, pinning her against the wall, and confessing to her early on before the rework with the MC just looking at it like ntr voyeur situation saying how "it's hawt" which I disagree with, and no choice to disable lesbian, or nothing.

I am damn sure not interested in seeing any of the MC's family hooking up with anyone not named MC.
woman, or not.:HideThePain:

It gave off a bad vibe imo, And I have seen it to many times when it comes to VNs and lesbians which makes me wary.

In general, I like the way it is now, and the dev did say before that it would be avoidable if you want to encourage poly or not, so if he adds it back, as long as I can shut it down then I am a happy camper.
I'm with you on this one.
 

Rosen King

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I think it's also worth noting that if you're not into hypnosis, that's why you're missing the part that *does* stand out. For all the games on this site with the "mind control" tag, very few of them are about hypnosis and really go deep into it (no pun intended). I read a lot of hypnosis-themed erotica and let me tell you, there's stuff that the written erotica community does well that's severely lacking in the porn game community. So if you're looking at this as "guy has sex with his hot mom and bitchy sister", it's gonna seem like something you see all the time. But in terms of a hypnofetish game, it's an attempt to flesh out a fetish that's often woefully underdeveloped.
 
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It would definitely be better if they hooked up and stella helped mc corrupt the fam... and joined in the fun... bunch of whiners ruining a good plot...

Edit: Your facepalms even prove my point. So let's get a few things straight about NTR. First of all there needs to be a relationship between character A and B besides familial or friendship an actual romantic relationship, not an imagined one, not a future one, not I want this person and if I can't have them first and be the only person to have them it's those three letters. Secondly, NTR and I'm going off the real definition not the f95 definition is when one partner cheats on the other with the intention of causing hurt feelings or extreme jealousy after the first condition of a romantic relationship being established has been met. Thirdly there are a lot of players who like threesomes and lesbian content if it's not your thing go play those pure vn's that boost your little napoleon complex ego and let you solo bang god knows how many LI's. If you want to see a game with actual lesbian NTR go look at Triple ex. What was introduced here was good for the plot. Now, I bet it's going to take even longer to get to the really good content because dev's very often have a difficult time shifiting from their original plan to this crybaby agenda of appeasing the crybaby egos.
'You're calling everyone whiners, but you're doing the most whining right now out of everybody with the nonsense you are saying because you're crying about content YOU WANT just the same as people talking about the lesbian content.

And "alot of players" you say are wrong, because I see more and more people getting fed up with forced lesbian content these days.

And me personally I do not mind lesbian content in terms of threesomes of group sex.. It does not bother me as much as pure lesbian without the MC's involvement, or choice.
poly isn't a thing I am into.


Either way, dev said it would be avoidable, so problem solved, everyone's happy.
 
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WastedTalent

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'You're calling everyone whiners, but you're doing the most whining right now out of everybody with the nonsense you are saying because you're crying about content YOU WANT just the same as people talking about the lesbian content.

And "alot of players" you say are wrong, because I see more and more people getting fed up with forced lesbian content these days.

And me personally I do not mind lesbian content in terms of threesomes of group sex.. It does not bother me as much as pure lesbian without the MC's involvement, or choice.
poly isn't a thing I am into.


Either way, dev said it would be avoidable, so problem solved, everyone's happy.
yeah the analytics expert my dev friend hired to deep dive into statistics to do specifically with the avn industry is wrong the facts remain on my side but you can think I'm wrong if you like... :ROFLMAO:
 

The Naughty Three

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yeah the analytics expert my dev friend hired to deep dive into statistics to do specifically with the avn industry is wrong the facts remain on my side but you can think I'm wrong if you like... :ROFLMAO:
Suddenly, I am very interested in this conversation ;)

Would you mind sharing more insights and conlcusions you might remember from that analysis an expert did for your dev friend?
 

DarkLoki

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Suddenly, I am very interested in this conversation ;)

Would you mind sharing more insights and conlcusions you might remember from that analysis an expert did for your dev friend?
Hey Dev, you're doing a great job and you seem to care. Just remember, this place is like a large public swimming pool,;all of the noise is coming from the shallow end

Make the game YOU want, if you try to please everybody you'll just get frustrated
 
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