VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch. 4] [CircleGames]

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palmtrees89

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Sgrodolo said:
They sure could have made it a bit more dubious what artstyle lora they used, this just looks like Melkor art 1:1
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Melkor's art looks quite different. The original did look similar, but Circlegames did an overhaul after Chapter01's release since so many people came here crying. Yes, one of the loRA's used is Melkor Mancin art, but the combination of different loRA's has turned this into an entirely different artstyle if you ask me.

That said, people out there literally schedule courses to learn Bob Ross way of painting. That goes for many artstyles and artists out there. At this point if you pick up a pen and draw a stickfigure chances are you're copying someone. Nobody is complaining about that. But for some reason there's been an entire brigade of Melkor fanboys coming here acting like they own the colors used in these images. lol

It's not a bad thing to use a good artstyle and create stuff with your own twist on it if you ask me. AI or not.
 
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The game is great, the dialogues are very well developed, and they make sense, but in Chapter 4, the character Vi went over to the dark side too quickly, that is, as for me, you rushed the events in the club too quickly, and it was possible to stretch out the scene in the photo room a little more, it was as if you moved too quickly from foreplay to sex, you know, I think it would be appropriate to give the character Vi more doubts, more entry threshold, so that she would have a struggle inside her, from condemnation of her father, well, and in the club it happened too quickly, as if Vi had not even had enough, she still wants to go beyond her difficulties, but something is stopping her, as if she needs to overcome herself more and go through more tests with herself, more photo sessions, you can come up with more clips, etc.
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Uh, I'm not the dev btw, you're the second one to think I am, do I just come across as dev like or something?

In any case I agree with you, there's been a couple reviews on the discord mentioning just this stuff so I don't think CG is unaware of what you're saying here, hopefully that will show in the next couple chapters.
 
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palmtrees89 said:
Melkor's art looks quite different. The original did look similar, but Circlegames did an overhaul after Chapter01's release since so many people came here crying. Yes, one of the loRA's used is Melkor Mancin art, but the combination of different loRA's has turned this into an entirely different artstyle if you ask me.

That said, people out there literally schedule courses to learn Bob Ross way of painting. That goes for many artstyles and artists out there. At this point if you pick up a pen and draw a stickfigure chances are you're copying someone. Nobody is complaining about that. But for some reason there's been an entire brigade of Melkor fanboys coming here acting like they own the colors used in these images. lol

It's not a bad thing to use a good artstyle and create stuff with your own twist on it if you ask me. AI or not.
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Learning how to draw or paint is pretty much learning to recognise patterns and shapes (aka copying what you see with your own eyes!) If you as an artist are not using references you're drawing blind which means every line you create is going to be wrong. Even when you exaggerate the female and male body you still need to know how to draw them correctly. You can't abstract what you can't represent.

So no it isn't cheating when you use 3d models, photos, or trace over old work or even ai. It just a tool. You still need to clean it up and fix all the mistakes.

People that say that art is subjective are either stupid or flat out liars. If I draw a hand without studying how it should generally should look (even if I exaggerate it of how I think it should look) aka no references it will always look like shit.

So the original AI is in fact mankind. Since most of us have been having similar ideas because we all intreact and see the same things as each other. Even our stories that are past down to us are retold.
 
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This is the main drawback of AI-generated art: without artistic training (and particularly here, anatomical knowledge), people can only mix parameters. The results can be very good, but in the end, poses and ‘tropes’ are likely to repeat endlessly, and the hype will eventually die down from monotony.

Ultimately, the real winners of AI-generated art might be experienced artists smart enough to use the tool to their advantage. They could see their workload significantly reduced, giving them more time to focus on writing their stories…
 
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What was the turning point? xD
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Because you're the dev of the game I'll try to develop my thoughts (not a native speaker so pardon my broken english).

I really don't mind long setup, quite the oposite actually, but the 25% of the game is just a mess, too much characters introductions, too much jumping one place to the other, and I think your writing (at first) was too wordy. You use a lot of words to convey not such setup nor world building. Compare the videogame part and the introduction to the new neighbor vs Girls changing room in the sexshop it's night and day in terms of pace.

I don't mind the fact that some characters talk in a trashy way but many time you would benefit from being more subtle.
To back-up the fact that it's kinda hard to get in the storyline of the various characters, you got me as soon as you started to switch POV, that was my breakiing point. I didn't skip a single word after the beach sex scene the sequence : Peeping the neighbor -> VI Shooting -> Sexshop (my favorite part because way more subtle, and with a better build-up) -> Rock show was perfect. The texting part between the sisters (the roomates of the hero in my head because I don't see the point of incest) and the hero about the swinsuts was really great as well. Mixing the storytelling by Vi of the Shooting during the BJ was excellent.

Also the hero is non consistent enough, in one act he is immature and talks like he's 14 and in the next scene for no reason he now act like is the king of this earth. I really couldn't play AS him because of him. Anya was way more consistent and was way more easier to follow as she progress in her journey

Finally Ari could use more backstory and a POV part because she can become my favorite character if she is not only described as the trashy girl but if we could explore more her reasoning and motive. Anya for example can become some kind of lust goddess at some point but at least I know where she's comming from.

I can really see the progress you made as you start to master your story etc. Swimming is very good there but it is a sea in which it is hard to enter at the moment.

Best of luck in you progress mate.
 
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Dercuillo

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moonpartially said:
(not a native speaker so pardon my broken english)
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Out of curiosity, what’s your native language?

I agree with almost all of your points, and that’s exactly why I’m working on a translation (to French) because it's a way to smooth things out! After several revisions, the text is starting to sound really good. And when I say ‘really,’ it’s because French (and I suppose Latin languages in general) is better suited for subtle nuances than English.

To me, the original text provides a solid ‘skeleton,’ which is already a great point. My only hope is that others will step in to help the developer with the polishing work because as you pointed out, there is room for improvement. But we must keep in mind a man alone cannot handle everything (image generation, text writing, scripting) at stellar level! And believe me (because I see it at my tiny level), just like in any field, the time needed to approach perfection grows exponentially!

Maybe you could ask in the translation forum if someone is available to translate the game into your language?
And if someone is interested, FYI, I can share my own PSD files for the embedded text in images…

At the end of the day, having more quality translations broadens the audience and it's also a way to support the studio! :D
 
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moonpartially said:
I'm french also. But I can read/talk english with no issues. It's just that, with dyslexia, the writing part is hell for me.
Plus, I don't know about you but I don't like porn in my mother tongue it feels silly.
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There is no way you have a hard time writing English when you can do it in french, French is so much more hellish :KEK:
 
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I like the idea of pov part for a character but i do hope that are use sparingly as i do not want switch all time in every ch.Also the phones scene i do not mind it but do not use it in every ch fam.

(Sorry for the bad english i broke my hand by accident)
 
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sora590 said:
I like the idea of pov part for a character but i do hope that are use sparingly as i do not want switch all time in every ch.Also the phones scene i do not mind it but do not use it in every ch fam.

(Sorry for the bad english i broke my hand by accident)
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While I do know that a lot of people don't like switching out from the MC, this is one of the things that vastly differed this game from other netorase games I played, so I want the dev to keep going. But, yeah, it really should be optional, making you click the button to switch perspectives.
Also the phone messages are really hot, and texting goes hand in hand with netorase, so I don't see it being put aside.
 
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kikomascado said:
I'm the same. Hahaha
Readings these things in english is hot, but when I see the words in my language (brazilian portuguese), my elementary schooler spirit kicks in and I have to contain my laughter. :ROFLMAO:
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Yep, same here. The only exception is 'that' game developed by a brazilian, it's so well written and full of BR references.
 
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