VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch. 4] [CircleGames]

[Bleh21]

I will say, from the few screenshots ive seen the art seems like it's gonna get downgraded. Feels like it's trading some of the "uniqueness" of the art style for a generic anime look that every ai game seems to have. Atleast for the faces.

 

[Bleh21]

I'm afraid it is this simple. The AI generates a mash-up/blend of digested artworks (with elements internally linked to provided tags). So if it produces art like you describe, it simply means it was trained on work of artists who made such art (in this case Melkor and some other guy(s) who drew horse cocks or whatever) The "stealing" refers to that training part of the process, because it's quite literally taking in people's work. It may be similar to how a human learns to copy someone else's drawing style, but note that a person who does it will be similarly treated with contempt at best, or accused/charged with plagiarism at worst.

But anyway, this is probably not something worth continuing, the same discussions can be found in most of the threads for games that went for the ai generation.

I still don't see how you can steal someone's "style". You do not have exclusive rights over your format. Mr beast popularised a certain style of video that so many people copied. Into the spiderverse popularised a style of animation that other studios are embracing. Eminem literally made a song about how everyone else is just copying him. There's so many clearly dark souls inspired games out right now. Western animations take the Japanese anime style approach all the time. My hero academia "stole" the DC/Marvel superhero gimmick and style.
People made the 3D models that almost every renpy game seems to steal. People steal so many porn stars entire being and put it into a html game...... i can keep going on and on but nobody cares. The last two are infinitely more blatant cases of theft then anything ai.
Again artists aren't a special category of people that deserve protection. People are allowed to take inspiration from it/modify it. AI just made that process infnitely easier so people are just crying about it. And if it was actually about theft, you'd be in some obscure html game outraged that they are stealing other porn stars work and identity way before you were here.

 

[ffive]

I still don't see how you can steal someone's "style".

There's a number of people in this thread who have recognized the art style of specific artist. How do you think they'd do it if it wasn't possible to copy it?

The AI doesn't just emulate other people's work. It literally uses the original bits made by people it has digested/converted for its use. Without them on hand, it wouldn't be able to produce anything.

And yes, people steal other stuff to make their games, too. It's lazy as fuck, and hardly a justification for even more theft. But don't worry, AI art will eventually become normalized too. In the meantime just ignore the complaints, if they bother you?

 

[Bleh21]

There's a number of people in this thread who have recognized the art style of specific artist. How do you think they'd do it if it wasn't possible to copy it?

The AI doesn't just emulate other people's work. It literally uses the original bits made by people it has digested/converted for its use. Without them on hand, it wouldn't be able to produce anything.

And yes, people steal other stuff to make their games, too. It's lazy as fuck, and hardly a justification for even more theft. But don't worry, AI art will eventually become normalized too. In the meantime just ignore the complaints, if they bother you?

Yes, it's clearly a derivative work and it's easy to see. But so are literally every examples I gave above. Everyone can see the dark soul inspiration in a dark soul inspired game. Very easy to see the Spiderman inspiration in a movie like Michelle and the machines, this doesn't prove anything lol.

Yes but its turning it into completely new forms of art. It is transforming it. If i cut up a picture of mona lisa and rearrange it to turn it into a picture of a penis, im not copying mona lisa lol, i think people would say thats an orginal creation at that point.And again, none of the other examples I mentioned would've been possible either without the original work.

But it is a justification for more theft. If people have been stealing to make porn game much more blatantly for much much longer then suddenly the outrage you're showing now specifically just becomes much much more nonsensical. Especially in a site literally dedicated to pirating all porn related art. Acting holier then though while literally pirating games, artworks, comics, videos etc is funny af you can't lie.

No I will not ignore it lol, I think I'll keep pointing out the selective outrage and hypocrisy of people like you.

 

[derogess]

A good start. I would like to see the NTR line.

 

[R1k0]

Stealing is a strong word, it is not that simple, first one needs to educate himself on how AI works, for example Melkor from what I have seen never worked with horse cocks or bestiality yet you can make bestiality AI art with his style, so how is that possible? Well first the AI analises Melkor style then analises what bestiality art is and then combines them in a new creation, a creation, is AI stealing bestiality porn from Melkor ? It would be hard to argue that, one can say that the AI created a brand new image following the peculiar style traits of Melkor, if it was a human doing that, there would be no issues, but since it is AI it is a problem. I am not defending anything, I am just saying I understand both sides of the spectrum and their arguments. But make no mistake, technology is like time, it stops for absolutly no one, and like time, it only knows one way, foward. AI is gonna be integrated on everything, movies, games, music, art...despite our opinions on the matter.

You pay too much attention to various sick people, do what you think is right, and do not pay attention to idiots.

 

[Mokey]

Looks nice, but all the dialogue being in millennial "text-ese" with the "tho's" and "bro's" is hugely fucking annoying. You're writing dialogue, not a text message.

 

[CircleGames]

Looks nice, but all the dialogue being in millennial "text-ese" with the "tho's" and "bro's" is hugely fucking annoying. You're writing dialogue, not a text message.

I am sorry, I am not a great writer, far from it, I know. Hope I can hire someone down the line.

 

[DarkKaiba666]

ONE THING I WANNA CLEAR OUT

I did not cave in to anything !! I do not give a fuck about keyboard warriors...That being said, I decided to change the artstyle because it aligns with my morals. Like I said a few posts back, I got myself familiar with Melkors work and I agree it was to similar. I did not train the AI on his style, that was avaiable online already, I just looked at it and decided to use it, because it looked fucking good. I should have informed myself better, that is on me. I got to excited with the art I was able to produce and never tought about searching about possible problems with the artstyle. I got ahead of myself and started writing, learning Renpy coding, etc...It happens but nothing that cannot be fixed.

Ayo man. I won't hound you. Do what you want. But the AI is going to train on the "best works" and use that as its base so I don't thing there's need to change it, nor is it immoral. It's simply the way AI art works. I really like the style. At the end of the day everyone has a part of someone else's idea. Nothing is truly original. Even computers themselves use unix or windows as a base.

 

[Matu]

I am sorry, I am not a great writer, far from it, I know. Hope I can hire someone down the line.

how to be eligible for it tho? i am looking for something to write for adult games here

 

[bowlofpussy]

This looks amazing, how many girls are available in it?

 

[Doshima]

New models definitely look better than with the previous """""""""stolen"""""""" art

 

[Dogorti]

New models definitely look better than with the previous """""""""stolen"""""""" art

Go to sleep man it's late

 

[FMag]

I really don't get this "stolen" thing. The art is incredibly good and it obviously relies on AI like many other game developers, so what? There's plenty of games with basically the same characters. It could have been a bad thing if the models were the same but it's not the case, so why don't you enjoy the game without all this fuss?

 

[Peach Enthusiast]

You shall see, new art update drops today or tomorrow

Nice, the big butts are still there.
I see Ariana's hairstyle changed, but I'm glad that Violet stayed mostly the same. She is very pretty. Is she based on "Violet Parr" from the Incredibles by any chance lol?

Now regarding the end teaser. You ask whether we should have that character in the game or not. I think it depends on the context? Would she be some kind of a fantasy or a dream? In that case it could work. Whatever the case may be, I hope her presence gets explained in a somewhat-logical sense.

Also I'm glad that the tease is still anal in the new art style lol. Will your game be anal-focused and / or will it offer the ability to "choose a hole", so we could go anal-only? I'd subscribe to your patreon right now if I could get some kind of a confirmation on whether or not there will be lots of sexy butt-stuffin'.

Spelling Report:
Lucy says "Discard" in the class, instead of "Discord".

 

[Pein777]

 

[CircleGames]

Nice, the big butts are still there.
I see Ariana's hairstyle changed, but I'm glad that Violet stayed mostly the same. She is very pretty. Is she based on "Violet Parr" from the Incredibles by any chance lol?

Now regarding the end teaser. You ask whether we should have that character in the game or not. I think it depends on the context? Would she be some kind of a fantasy or a dream? In that case it could work. Whatever the case may be, I hope her presence gets explained in a somewhat-logical sense.

Also I'm glad that the tease is still anal in the new art style lol. Will your game be anal-focused and / or will it offer the ability to "choose a hole", so we could go anal-only? I'd subscribe to your patreon right now if I could get some kind of a confirmation on whether or not there will be lots of sexy butt-stuffin'.

Spelling Report:
Lucy says "Discard" in the class, instead of "Discord".

Hi there, so Discard is Discord, Grennit is Reddit, it is on purpose...

When it comes to anal there will be tons of it...

 

[Peach Enthusiast]

Hi there, so Discard is Discord, Grennit is Reddit, it is on purpose...

Oh right.

When it comes to anal there will be tons of it...

Good to know, thanks.

 

[mytoy88]

Compressed version please !

 

[CircleGames]

Nice, the big butts are still there.
I see Ariana's hairstyle changed, but I'm glad that Violet stayed mostly the same. She is very pretty. Is she based on "Violet Parr" from the Incredibles by any chance lol?

Now regarding the end teaser. You ask whether we should have that character in the game or not. I think it depends on the context? Would she be some kind of a fantasy or a dream? In that case it could work. Whatever the case may be, I hope her presence gets explained in a somewhat-logical sense.

Also I'm glad that the tease is still anal in the new art style lol. Will your game be anal-focused and / or will it offer the ability to "choose a hole", so we could go anal-only? I'd subscribe to your patreon right now if I could get some kind of a confirmation on whether or not there will be lots of sexy butt-stuffin'.

Spelling Report:
Lucy says "Discard" in the class, instead of "Discord".

When it comes to choices, I would like to implement some in the future regarding avoidable ntr scenarios and maybe penetration choices yes but I cannot guarante it, still if you wanna subscribe to Patreon I have tiers that grant acess to daily artwork of random characters and game characters, and a lot of it will be anal based, just because I enjoy it aswell. Patreon is still reviewing my page, it is taking longer then expected, first time took 4h now it already has been 12h and no green light by them, so yeah the patreon is still on standby for now.

Thx