AbyssGames

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Nah you're not. The general assumption was that AI would speed up the development of these games a bit, but clearly it's not the case. I'm not going to pretend that I understand the whole process, but I'd like to know what's the actual trade off for replacing human made art then?
It does speed up the development. I think a good comparison would be with Vulgar Reverie, which is a very good game in it's own right. However you get maybe 10-30 CG's per update, while this provides you with 300-500 per update.
I'm sure CG spends a lot of time building out scenes and editing the pictures to provide good visual storytelling. AI is a great tool if you know how to use it properly and as long as you don't fully rely on it. There's too much AI slop out there that give the good ones a bad name. It's all a balancing act in the end, trying to find a good balance between quality and quantity. This has MUCH more than traditional 2DCG games, but also at a much higher consistent quality.

While I have a ton of respect for 2D artists, you need a lot of them to produce a good sized update in a reasonable time frame, but they also cost money. Hope that provides you some insight.
 
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It's hard to figure out where the plot is heading...

The latest game update still doesn't provide an answer. Maybe the next one will give us some answers.

Personally, I'm curious about why Bruce has such a strong influence on Vi... and where this will lead. Perhaps in the future, we'll witness the first major argument between Eric and Vi.

The reason I noticed this is that a person Vi just met stirs feelings in her as strong as the ones she has for Eric, maybe even stronger. And let's remember that Eric is the one she claims to love. This raises the question: does she really love him? If any stranger can influence her so easily and evoke feelings just as strong, then what does she need Eric for at all?

I imagined a scene where Bruce calls Vi and summons her to the photo studio. She replies that she's on a date with her boyfriend and can't come. And Bruce says: "That's an order, my horny little rabbit." And then she leaves Eric alone and runs to Bruce. And Eric just watches this scene unfold, frozen like a deer in headlights.

Eric has already shown us that if Vi calls, he'll come running immediately, even if it means leaving his crying sister alone. It would have been better to stay with his sister, since Vi didn't say she was in trouble or urgently needed his help—she just said she had prepared some surprise. And in my opinion, that's not a good reason to abandon your crying sister and come running to Vi's call like an obedient puppy.













Another excellent point of yours, so you agree with me, I wrote that Eric is a submissive of VI and ARI, their toy when needed, there is no love, the only girl who has shown love for Eric is Anya, the stepsister, VI only uses Eric for fun games with ARI, the two friends play with their boyfriends, who are two friends, one is already a happy cuckold, now they are transforming Eric too, that's why the story doesn't make sense, he's a fucking NTR with fog, no desired sharing, but only the dominance of ARI and VI. Your doubt is valid, but we all understand it by now, Vi uses ERIC, she doesn't love him.
 

VoyeurRed

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apparently i can finally post a comment after not doing anything wrong to get muted for 3 months.....

anyway, CG is still putting out great AI work.....but i am confused on the story as a few have already voiced earlier in this thread....and like i wanna know, why the hell would Vi just go and do a blowjob for some rando guy when she didn't talk to Eric about it beforehand? they literally said they would talk about it and do it together did they not?? why has the story gone off the rails so quickly?.....or is it that we really didn't know Vi, and that the comments from Ari about Vi being a true slut that Eric didn't know anything about were alllllll true.......

also hi AbyssGames , i still can't post on ur thread but it's nice to see u out and about
 
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I said my piece, ARI and VI are two manipulative sluts, anything but love, Eric is a chicken, I repeat, only Anya is truly in love with her stepbrother, the DEV threw smoke, there were two very clear episodes where NTR's nature is clear, instead of the much-hyped NTS. It's the truth in front of everyone, leaving aside the seconds of updates released, today's update is only 5 scenes more than the previous one.
 

lurkerboye

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It does speed up the development. I think a good comparison would be with Vulgar Reverie, which is a very good game in it's own right. However you get maybe 10-30 CG's per update, while this provides you with 300-500 per update.
I'm sure CG spends a lot of time building out scenes and editing the pictures to provide good visual storytelling. AI is a great tool if you know how to use it properly and as long as you don't fully rely on it. There's too much AI slop out there that give the good ones a bad name. It's all a balancing act in the end, trying to find a good balance between quality and quantity. This has MUCH more than traditional 2DCG games, but also at a much higher consistent quality.

While I have a ton of respect for 2D artists, you need a lot of them to produce a good sized update in a reasonable time frame, but they also cost money. Hope that provides you some insight.
Thanks for your perspective, this is the kind of comment I looking for
 

turbokinetics

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He's absolutely fucked her around.

Fortunately she's got a friend willing to help her get dicked down.
You mean he left for a "girlfriend" request, im not saying it was a good situation. But he does in fact have a relationship already. Unless shes gonna full tilt confess her expectations for her "brother" are pretty high. Her and erics time isnt over unless the dev drops the ball. But they do need to have a good chat at some point.
 

kristo0086

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It's hard to figure out where the plot is heading...

The latest game update still doesn't provide an answer. Maybe the next one will give us some answers.

Personally, I'm curious about why Bruce has such a strong influence on Vi... and where this will lead. Perhaps in the future, we'll witness the first major argument between Eric and Vi.

The reason I noticed this is that a person Vi just met stirs feelings in her as strong as the ones she has for Eric, maybe even stronger. And let's remember that Eric is the one she claims to love. This raises the question: does she really love him? If any stranger can influence her so easily and evoke feelings just as strong, then what does she need Eric for at all?

I imagined a scene where Bruce calls Vi and summons her to the photo studio. She replies that she's on a date with her boyfriend and can't come. And Bruce says: "That's an order, my horny little rabbit." And then she leaves Eric alone and runs to Bruce. And Eric just watches this scene unfold, frozen like a deer in headlights.

Eric has already shown us that if Vi calls, he'll come running immediately, even if it means leaving his crying sister alone. It would have been better to stay with his sister, since Vi didn't say she was in trouble or urgently needed his help—she just said she had prepared some surprise. And in my opinion, that's not a good reason to abandon your crying sister and come running to Vi's call like an obedient puppy.
Oh my God. That's what happens when you look for too much meaning in a porn game. Dude, there are a lot of Fetishes in the game and with Violet there will be an NTS fetish, NOT an NTR!!!! . The developer has talked about this many times, but again and again some people bring up this topic.
 

Alluman

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Oh my God. That's what happens when you look for too much meaning in a porn game. Dude, there are a lot of Fetishes in the game and with Violet there will be an NTS fetish, NOT an NTR!!!! . The developer has talked about this many times, but again and again some people bring up this topic.
Oh... thank you for letting me know that this is a porn game. But please, allow ME to decide for myself how to play, what to look for in games, and how to interpret them.

Not all players approach games like you do, focusing only on graphics and... jerking off. There are players who actually read the dialogues carefully and follow the plot.

And for your information: I played Chapter 6 with my pants zipped up, so enough blood was flowing to my brain to analyze the plot! The developer doesn't write the story and dialogues for nothing; they put effort into creating the right atmosphere and narrative for their game.

And people like you need to stop trying to lecture others on how to play and perceive games. So please, come back down to earth.
 

ChO_fr

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Why is there a chapter 6 silver version? I already have chapter 6 gold version. Did the dev change some of the scenes from the gold version in the silver version?
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the gold and silver version?
whats new
Is there anything nice about this version with Violet? I'm afraid to download it and there's almost nothing. :BootyTime:
what changed in the update?
Did this go from gold to silver or am I mistaken?
Is there anything new in the update. Seems all the same as in September
I already answered earlier today, but there has been quite a lot of chatter since, so let me list the changes once more :

New animations were added to the Anya closet scene, one for the Photoshoot, and remade for the Ari's scene at the end
Images were remade, for consistency of Kira and the Ari scene as well
The whole dialogue between Anya and Eric in the closet was rewritten to be more aligned with both characters
Some small scenes and inner dialogues were added (one more dress tryout for Anya, a short Maki one with foreshadowing, some inner thoughts to Vi during the last part of the Photoshoot)
The pictures Vi sends to Ari's phone were slightly changed, to give her first BJ to another man a more meaningful place later
The Ari scene was given a proper ending, completing the Chapter nicely
Some minor fixes to the images and missed typos / grammar errors

Overall, I would encourage people to replay through this version of the Chapter, as the changes have made its tone much more in line with the rest of the story so far.

As for the "Gold" versus "Silver" version :
Circle usually releases the "Gold" one to the "Gold" members on Patreon first.
This version can be quite rushed, as he has a tendency to crunch a bit too much and fixes unrealistic release dates for himself
Then a "Silver" version gets released to "Silver" members on Patreon, and then to the public, unless there is still need for more fixes.
That version can be considered as completed, as it will have gone through a complete review and correction process, unlike the "Gold" one.
 
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FifouWeb

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As for the "Gold" versus "Silver" version :
Circle usually releases the "Gold" one to the "Gold" members on Patreon first.
This version can be quite rushed, as he has a tendency to crunch a bit too much and fixes unrealistic release dates for himself
Then a "Silver" version gets released to "Silver" members on Patreon, and then to the public, unless there is still need for more fixes.
That version can be considered as completed, as it will have been through a complete review and correction process, unlike the "Gold" one.
Thank you so much for this answer. It was intriguing for me too.
 
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PsyDoggo

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why has the story gone off the rails so quickly?.....or is it that we really didn't know Vi, and that the comments from Ari about Vi being a true slut that Eric didn't know anything about were alllllll true.......
It's an interesting take in concept, I guess we can expand on that theme infinitely because there are a lot BHS dialogs/messages between Ari and Violet, we can confirm they exist by playing the game, but unfortunatly it is uncharted territory for us players. It still possible find some clues by playing the game from a perspective of conspiracy(to have it in mind that 2 of them just found 2 fucktoys to play with). Today I'm too tired to do so, but from the memory there are quite a few moments that contradict with this take. Overall IMO it'll be too dark to implement such a malevolent intent and it should take a lot of writing skills to make it work, on top of that it is really time consuming. For that to work writer needs to create 2 differnt stories: public(the game) and "shadow"(we can't see nothing there cos it's intended that way)
 
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kristo0086

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It's an interesting take in concept, I guess we can expand on that theme infinitely because there are a lot BHS dialogs/messages between Ari and Violet, we can confirm they exist by playing the game, but unfortunatly it is uncharted territory for us players. It still possible find some clues by playing the game from a perspective of conspiracy(to have it in mind that 2 of them just found 2 fucktoys to play with). Today I'm too tired to do so, but from the memory there are quite a few moments that contradict with this take. Overall IMO it'll be too dark to implement such a malevolent intent and it should take a lot of writing skills to make it work, on top of that it is really time consuming. For that to work writer needs to create 2 differnt stories: public(the game) and "shadow"(we can't see nothing there cos it's intended that way)
It's amazing, this game has a very productive fandom. The game developer can just randomly throw out ideas for the next update and the fandom will come up with everything for him.
 
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