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TrashyAF

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I finally got around to playing 12.3 on pc (was stuck on 8.3 on Android for obvious reasons).
I was sooo curious about Oliver, I had heard probably every opinion possible about him.
I must say, I'm very happy he's receiving changes, and I say that as a lover of the sub route. I would actually love a more teasing bull to contrast with Nathan, calling you cucky and exploring different things, but like... Does he have a problem with the mc? He gets so cruel so fast, with an insane amount of aggressiveness. Surely someone can roleplay being alpha without saying "you're so fucking pathetic, I'll fucking fuck your fucking girl on your fucking bed" every other sentence. It gets less weird later on, but his introduction in chapter 21 is genuinely weird. Sociopath behavior fr
Very excited for 13.x!
 

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I finally got around to playing 12.3 on pc (was stuck on 8.3 on Android for obvious reasons).
I was sooo curious about Oliver, I had heard probably every opinion possible about him.
I must say, I'm very happy he's receiving changes, and I say that as a lover of the sub route. I would actually love a more teasing bull to contrast with Nathan, calling you cucky and exploring different things, but like... Does he have a problem with the mc? He gets so cruel so fast, with an insane amount of aggressiveness. Surely someone can roleplay being alpha without saying "you're so fucking pathetic, I'll fucking fuck your fucking girl on your fucking bed" every other sentence. It gets less weird later on, but his introduction in chapter 21 is genuinely weird. Sociopath behavior fr
Very excited for 13.x!
Oliver will not be changed a lot with 0.13. I'll have to wait for feedback on Dom/Very Dom rework to see how to improve him. ;)
 

Silwith

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I would actually love a more teasing bull to contrast with Nathan, calling you cucky and exploring different things, but like
That part reminds me, ANY guy calling me "cucky" feels really weird... it feels like a somewhat endearing petname, it can work coming from Ashley (and depending on situation Laura), but when a guy writes it it feels kinda... off? Just say "Cuck" please man :x xD

Surely someone can roleplay being alpha without saying "you're so fucking pathetic, I'll fucking fuck your fucking girl on your fucking bed" every other sentence.
You can, but then you can just stay with Nathan tbh... he had some more "dominant" parts with the MC that worked fine, I WANT Oliver to be the more crass and demeaning dom, it just should be made clear that it is part of the roleplay, right now he just is like that right out of the gate. I would like him to be changed in "non sexual" parts and in the beginning portion where we meet him, getting toned down a bit in that (still kinda looking down maybe and all that, but not as agressive, but more joking/teasing) and then after getting to know a bit and talking about it the demeaning and humiliating behaviour can be in the sexual situations as agreed on by both sides because they both find it hot.
I very much hope Olivers general archetype won't be changed, because on the very-sub route i very much WANT the asshole behaviour, just cleared up to be consensual by both sides.
 

Silwith

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I want the opposite of what we have: For him to be dominant when fucking Laura, and normal when talking with us. Hahaha
Exactly this.
No offense, but get yourself Nathan for that or a different guy (She shouldn't be okay with just two anyway :p)
I am still pretty sure the majority of the playerbase is leaning to the sub-paths, let us have the characters that fit more into that path, don't wash it down into nothing just because not everyone likes it, thats why he is avoidable!
I am not sure how it would work writing-wise depending on the paths, but I don't want him washed down on the sub and very-sub-path just so he can fit in a dom-path too! So, if both works, fine, it's more writing I guess, since the sub and balanced/dom paths would more diverge in how he talks to us, but that seems not too bad, but if it impacts the sub paths too I will argue all day for "avoid him and let him for us!" :p
 

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No offense, but get yourself Nathan for that or a different guy (She shouldn't be okay with just two anyway :p)
I am still pretty sure the majority of the playerbase is leaning to the sub-paths, let us have the characters that fit more into that path, don't wash it down into nothing just because not everyone likes it, thats why he is avoidable!
I am not sure how it would work writing-wise depending on the paths, but I don't want him washed down on the sub and very-sub-path just so he can fit in a dom-path too! So, if both works, fine, it's more writing I guess, since the sub and balanced/dom paths would more diverge in how he talks to us, but that seems not too bad, but if it impacts the sub paths too I will argue all day for "avoid him and let him for us!" :p
I think the problem with the different routes are the images, which the dev can't make variations depending if you're sub/dom, so what I meant is to have him more dominant in the sex (so in the pictures) and have his way of talking to is based on our path, so the sub ones would get that current douchy behavior, and the dom would get a more toned down one.
 

nickohoma

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No offense, but get yourself Nathan for that or a different guy (She shouldn't be okay with just two anyway :p)
I am still pretty sure the majority of the playerbase is leaning to the sub-paths, let us have the characters that fit more into that path, don't wash it down into nothing just because not everyone likes it, thats why he is avoidable!
I am not sure how it would work writing-wise depending on the paths, but I don't want him washed down on the sub and very-sub-path just so he can fit in a dom-path too! So, if both works, fine, it's more writing I guess, since the sub and balanced/dom paths would more diverge in how he talks to us, but that seems not too bad, but if it impacts the sub paths too I will argue all day for "avoid him and let him for us!" :p
If sub path enjoyers like as-is Oliver then I definitely wouldn't want him changed for sub path. I was happy to have the "one and done" option for him. Just wishlisting.

I get that some folks get gratification from the degradation/humiliation stuff. Glad that content is there for y'all. My ideal would be to be casual with all the bulls and let their personalities flow through with Laura. But I'm not the only one playing so I get that I can't have everything.
 
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No offense, but get yourself Nathan for that or a different guy (She shouldn't be okay with just two anyway :p)
I am still pretty sure the majority of the playerbase is leaning to the sub-paths, let us have the characters that fit more into that path, don't wash it down into nothing just because not everyone likes it, thats why he is avoidable!
I am not sure how it would work writing-wise depending on the paths, but I don't want him washed down on the sub and very-sub-path just so he can fit in a dom-path too! So, if both works, fine, it's more writing I guess, since the sub and balanced/dom paths would more diverge in how he talks to us, but that seems not too bad, but if it impacts the sub paths too I will argue all day for "avoid him and let him for us!" :p
I don't think he can be avoided on the sub path.
 

Silwith

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I think the problem with the different routes are the images, which the dev can't make variations depending if you're sub/dom, so what I meant is to have him more dominant in the sex (so in the pictures) and have his way of talking to is based on our path, so the sub ones would get that current douchy behavior, and the dom would get a more toned down one.
I mean, that I am full on board with, him being "different" in the pictures we get from Nathan, a bit harder going on Laura, would be nice :p And as said, I don't mind if doms can tell him off and have "normal" conversations, as long as I get to keep him more to his original behaviour on my very-sub-path xP

I don't think he can be avoided on the sub path.
I actually don't know :unsure: I never tried, but there isn't really a reason to avoid him on that path anyway, aside from the introduction making him look too "assholey" out of the gate.
 
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I don't think he can be avoided on the sub path.
Y'know Joshy, we tend to play a lot of the same types of games, but we certainly approach them from very different angles. Like, I just can't bring myself to play the submissive cuckold route at all; thus, I'm looking forward to the more dominant stuff in the coming update. But I do appreciate that you (and other players) enjoy the submissive routes in here and in other games. Your posts in various threads tend to be fun to read and are often funny if nothing else. (y) Cheers!
 

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I mean, that I am full on board with, him being "different" in the pictures we get from Nathan, a bit harder going on Laura, would be nice :p And as said, I don't mind if doms can tell him off and have "normal" conversations, as long as I get to keep him more to his original behaviour on my very-sub-path xP


I actually don't know :unsure: I never tried, but there isn't really a reason to avoid him on that path anyway, aside from the introduction making him look too "assholey" out of the gate.
There is if you only want to see her with specific people. Besides I love Laura talking like that to me but not another man.
 
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kikomascado

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I mean, that I am full on board with, him being "different" in the pictures we get from Nathan, a bit harder going on Laura, would be nice :p And as said, I don't mind if doms can tell him off and have "normal" conversations, as long as I get to keep him more to his original behaviour on my very-sub-path xP


I actually don't know :unsure: I never tried, but there isn't really a reason to avoid him on that path anyway, aside from the introduction making him look too "assholey" out of the gate.
I don't mind the roleplay and such, but I draw the line in him being that way 100% of the time and being rude to me that am the one lending my girl to him. Hahaha
So yeah, I think his personality regarding the conversation with us should depend on what path we're, but if people want him to be tamer in all situations, would be better to just don't have him as a bull and continue with just Nathan...

Y'know Joshy, we tend to play a lot of the same types of games, but we certainly approach them from very different angles. Like, I just can't bring myself to play the submissive cuckold route at all; thus, I'm looking forward to the more dominant stuff in the coming update. But I do appreciate that you (and other players) enjoy the submissive routes in here and in other games. Your posts in various threads tend to be fun to read and are often funny if nothing else. (y) Cheers!
Funilly enough, I think I'm somewhat on the middle. While I don't like the sub path, I love some things that are heavily associted with sub behavior, like cum cleanups... :ROFLMAO:
 
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Silwith

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There is if you only want to see her with specific people. Besides I love Laura talking like that to me but not another man.
Fair enough, since it is netorase and not netorare I guess it is fair to make him avoidable for the sub-path too if someone doesn't want him... Or, not sure how hard it is to do that, maybe give players the possibility to a bit "split" it, give a option to have the "red" dialogue only from Laura, while the bulls stay "balanced" for people that don't wan't the full path? Personally I am not really interested in pure femdom, having only Laura dominant and all the bulls stay proper respectful would just be a "bye then" for me.
 

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Fair enough, since it is netorase and not netorare I guess it is fair to make him avoidable for the sub-path too if someone doesn't want him... Or, not sure how hard it is to do that, maybe give players the possibility to a bit "split" it, give a option to have the "red" dialogue only from Laura, while the bulls stay "balanced" for people that don't wan't the full path? Personally I am not really interested in pure femdom, having only Laura dominant and all the bulls stay proper respectful would just be a "bye then" for me.
It would be easy to just make a variable to store of you want it or not.
"Oliver: You're so fucking pathetic, I'll fucking fuck your fucking girl on your fucking bed
MC: If you don't shut the fuck up I'll have Laura tell you to fuck off"
And presto! He don't do that anymore! :ROFLMAO:
 
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It would be easy to just make a variable to store of you want it or not.
"Oliver: You're so fucking pathetic, I'll fucking fuck your fucking girl on your fucking bed
MC: If you don't shut the fuck up I'll have Laura tell you to fuck off"
And presto! He don't do that anymore! :ROFLMAO:
Fuckedy fuck fuck! :p
But yeah, in universe it is easy xD I was more talking about how much work it would be for Le Stag :D I got no idea about how many variables and stuff he has to track so far after all :p I am just here as the voice for those that are happy with how it is, because people that are happy don't complain, so there is always the risk to kinda forget that there are a buuuuuunch of people that like it this way and wanna keep it :D
 

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Fuckedy fuck fuck! :p
But yeah, in universe it is easy xD I was more talking about how much work it would be for Le Stag :D I got no idea about how many variables and stuff he has to track so far after all :p I am just here as the voice for those that are happy with how it is, because people that are happy don't complain, so there is always the risk to kinda forget that there are a buuuuuunch of people that like it this way and wanna keep it :D
But being a sub, wouldn't the dev denying what you want make you happy? :unsure: Hahaha
 

nickohoma

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I am just here as the voice for those that are happy with how it is, because people that are happy don't complain, so there is always the risk to kinda forget that there are a buuuuuunch of people that like it this way and wanna keep it :D
Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that. Definitely good to keep in mind that a lot of people like the last 3 releases.
 

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Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that. Definitely good to keep in mind that a lot of people like the last 3 releases.
I never said I didn't like them I just don't like being railroaded. These games are about choices unless it's some shitty kinetic story but this isn't one of those.
 
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