VN Unity Netorase Phone [v0.15.3] [Le Stag]

[hlfwaycrks]

Shit my bad, I replied wrong comment, I meant to replied one above you

It's all good!

Again, I DO love the game, just supremely frustrated with the lack of “real“ choices for the MC/player and the way Laura has become so self-centered and inconsiderate of what MC wants.

I cleared most of your post so it wouldn't gum up the thread. While I don't come at it as aggressively as you have, I do think there is some solid constructive criticism here that could be implemented to improve the game, and I hope there is more of a feeling of choice, otherwise it's just a kinetic novel that gives you no agency. There's a huge feeling of disconnect when a choice ends up not being a choice at all.

 

[Silwith]

I really hope that's not how it is in the dom route. The entire reason I shut NTR Phone off in the netorase girl's path was because I let her go raw, assuming that the MC was going raw as well, and then the next scene she's at the store buying condoms and says "I still don't have to use them for him, right?" That ain't what I think NTRS should be and it's not how I thought the route would go in this game (although I haven't gotten far enough to know for sure yet), due to the dev stating he wanted the MC and Laura's relationship to be deep and loving... if MC's wearing a condom but others aren't, that's not a deep relationship at all. I'm all for cleaning up a cream pie or cummy kisses in a consensual relationship, but I'm not about "condom for me, not for thee", or humiliation, or any of that kind of thing -- all of those seem like straight NTR shit to me. God, I really hope that's just on the sub path, is it?

No fear xP I was specifically talking about my choices here, even in the Sub-Route you can be the first to have raw Sex with Laura, I specifically chose not to and even to continue using condoms, because my main route is kinda clichee "pathetic beta"... xD
I like my virtual stuff to be different to my real life experiences and likes, variety and all that (Tho I did start a Dom playtrough to see how it is too)

I have played this game for HOURS AND HOURS! Played all 3 routes and, quite honestly, I am so fucking sick of Laura and her selfish, bullshit attitude towards MC, someone that is supposed to be her “everything”.

She doesn’t take his feelings into account EVER. When he says “No,“ she says it’s too late to back out now or says, “You have to say “Yes” and then, magically, a “choice” box pops up with only 1 option, you guessed it, “YES”.

The game started with the MC telling her that he wasn’t jealous of her being with other guys and admitting that he would like to see her hook up with another man. She then asked him if he would like to sleep with other women and even if I click that I WOULD like to sleep with other women, she NEVER considers letting him do so.

The story is too one-sided for me and she also seems to become a little bitch to MC during her OVERLY DRAWN OUT TEXT DESCRIPTIONS of her sex acts. Imagine Nathan just sitting there watching her type out a 57-line text (or whatever it was) as he is banging her the first time.

Whether it is the Dom, Sub or Balanced path, MC is treated by her in a condescending, degrading way: “I want you to touch yourself while I describe how he is pleasuring me. Can you do that?“ If you say, “No” then she says you have to do it and to not “disobey” me.

Okay, your husband is letting you fuck Nathan whenever you feel like getting laid, blow strangers in a bar bathroom, then take them back to Ashley’s to fuck you all night and you refuse to let him ”have fun” as well, even though he has told you repeatedly that he wants an “open” relationship?

That’s a one-way street and I, as the MC, have gotten to the point where I am pissed off at how things have developed. My “kink” wasn’t just having her fuck dudes and send me texts! Why I can’t I fuck other women and send texts to Laura? In real life, I would start looking to cheat on Laura about right now because she doesn’t seem to give a shit about what I want or how I am feeling.

As she says when Ashley sends MC an inappropriate picture, “Just because I am allowing her to send you sexy pictures doesn’t mean I’ll ever allow you to sleep with her. Unlike you, I’m not one to share.”

What a fucking selfish bitch!

I used to enjoy this game, but the lack of choices makes it seem like I have zero control as the MC, so it is difficult to immersed in the experiemce. “Yes“ or “YES!!!” isn’t REALLY a chocie. Most of the so called “choices” are the same answer OR if you answer the way Laura doesn’t want, then she just bullies you into what she wants.

In real life, I can see MC thinking that he wants to share Laura with other men, but I can also see him being unsure about it afterwards when she comes home with a belly full of cum after sending him photos of Nathan impaling her with his “much larger cock” than yours. As it is, there is no way to adjust or change how things are progressing. She gets fucked literally and MC gets fucked figuratively, which just sucks.

Hopefully, Le Stag will see how the MC has just turned into “cucky” and that he didn’t sign onto that plan. As a developer, don’t give people option or choices and then totally disregard their decisions. I’ve been with my wife for almost 40 years, that dynamic doesn’t work in marriages and it doesn’t work here, either.

Again, I DO love the game, just supremely frustrated with the lack of “real“ choices for the MC/player and the way Laura has become so self-centered and inconsiderate of what MC wants.

Rock Chalk

We had that discussion like 10 times now, this is pretty much a kinetic novel with flavour choices, if you don't like the route it takes, then go, it wont change.
It is about a MC that likes to see his girlfriend have fun and develop sexually, it is all the MCs want, Laura didn't want it, there is zero reason why she should be allowing the MC to sleep around if she would have been totally content with keeping the relationship monogamous in the first place. Going into it expecting actual choice is wrong, the choices are for variations in the scenes, the overall route is determined in advance and will not change. If you don't like how it plays out that is okay, but you will not get the choices you want in the future either, this is how the game is going and will keep going, Le Stag made that pretty clear as far as I understood it.

 

[Adamska]

Laura strikes a nerve with me as well. I haven't been able to put my finger on why because on the surface she does seem like a sweet caring girlfriend, but her attitude feels fake nice. She started to grate on me and I eventually burned out early while I haven't with other sharing game heroines like Nicole from Exciting Games, Ayumi from Blurring the Walls, etc.

If MC agrees with everything Laura wants all the time (the Dom/be-cucked-enthusiastically route), she's a blast and like a best friend. Any deviation in preference from what she wants to do will seemingly end in her getting her way anyways through bullying (eventually the Sub/be-cucked-casually route). I want to see what happens to MC if he ever decides to actually put his foot down on one of those "umm Laura, burping up Nathan's cum every day doesn't actually turn me on" responses! We see cracks in her demeanor when MC has been able to push back on her suggestions, but the conversations always get cut off before any meaningful discussion on the lifestyle can take place.

I know that those conversations are not the purpose of this game (as fun as it would be to see Laura squirm). I also get that the MC in this game is written to love everything Laura is throwing at him in both the Dom and Sub paths, and that they're hard coded to work as a couple and wind up together. The problem is that this game is designed to be immersive (with the reader adopting the perspective of the MC), and not all readers will love what Laura is throwing at them. Presenting readers with choices that imply varied outcomes is a death knell if there are no varied outcomes. When an immersed player is presented with a situation where they are looking for a sexual fetish to experience with a loving partner other than be cucked enthusiastically or be cucked casually, and the loving partner is selfishly doing the same thing every time when they don't seemingly have to, there will be some player fallout.

Being Dominant in one of these games (to most people) does not mean being more vocal and enthusiastic about being a cuckold. The expectation from a Dom path is usually that supreme authority and control will be maintained in a sexual environment or relationship (in this case, a partner sharing experience). MC never has control or authority over what goes on in this game. Laura, in all routes, is the Dominant partner. She is driving the action because she wants to fuck other men. She talks MC into the fetish because she wants to feel better about what she's doing (just look at her wiffle-waffling positions and behavior in regards to "the reclaiming" if this is doubted). The MC is basically a wet rag for a reader to wrap themselves in, who will have fun if they enjoy being cuckolded and will eventually uninstall if they're looking for a swinging/Dominant/active experience. I very much doubt there is a single Dom out there who will have a good time sitting/reading from any of these route perspectives. I think even the Sub-path crew starts to realize this after reading through almost the same game on a second playthrough.

 

[hlfwaycrks]

The problem is that this game is designed to be immersive (with the reader adopting the perspective of the MC), and not all readers will love what Laura is throwing at them. Presenting readers with choices that imply varied outcomes is a death knell if there are no varied outcomes. When an immersed player is presented with a situation where they are looking for a sexual fetish to experience with a loving partner other than be cucked enthusiastically or be cucked casually, and the loving partner is selfishly doing the same thing every time when they don't seemingly have to, there will be some player fallout.

Being Dominant in one of these games (to most people) does not mean being more vocal and enthusiastic about being a cuckold. The expectation from a Dom path is usually that supreme authority and control will be maintained in a sexual environment or relationship (in this case, a partner sharing experience). MC never has control or authority over what goes on in this game. Laura, in all routes, is the Dominant partner. She is driving the action because she wants to fuck other men. She talks MC into the fetish because she wants to feel better about what she's doing (just look at her wiffle-waffling positions and behavior in regards to "the reclaiming" if this is doubted). The MC is basically a wet rag for a reader to wrap themselves in, who will have fun if they enjoy being cuckolded and will eventually uninstall if they're looking for a swinging/Dominant/active experience. I very much doubt there is a single Dom out there who will have a good time sitting/reading from any of these route perspectives. I think even the Sub-path crew starts to realize this after reading through almost the same game on a second playthrough.

This whole section. You put into words, quite eloquently I must add, my main concern with the project. I very much hope there's some effort made in later versions to improve upon this, and while I will continue to support the project, I'm going to hold off and see if things do improve before experiencing the game in full.

 

[Berry1980]

Great game with good updates! Hoping for another girls' night with some lesbian action between Laura & Ashley. Tara would be a good reporter

 

[Chamika niroshan]

Not gonna lie this is my fav game at the moment . Keep give us updates brother le stag ❤

 

[lemanruss]

Y'all know Laura isn't a real girl, right?

 

[Chamika niroshan]

Y'all know Laura isn't a real girl, right?

Ha ha didn't know untill you said

 

[Adamska]

Y'all know Laura isn't a real girl, right?

Let me guess, they put you in the learning and reading center to play tic-tac-toe during the literary discussion classes?

 

[siath70]

Dude what the feck are you writing that long? If you don't like it and if you have ideas that you think are better than the developer's, go write your own game or something. Because this is the developer's own game and he's going perfectly successfully with it. The struggles of a few minorities like you will not change the course of the game.

Damn, why every successful game have a couple of crying bums like you who try to put a dent in it? You are trying to magnify things that don't bother anyone just because it doesn't suit your taste. A classic of every NTR/NTS game thread.

Please GTFO and don't waste the developer's time. No one will read that long ass empty paragraph except loafers like you.

Funny you can have your opinion and tell us what the Dev is thinking or doing and how he's not going to listen to anyone but you. But don't let anyone else do that...

 

[Luc77]

bla bla bla ... take it too personally


most important question
when can we expect a new update?

 

[Aladin01]

bla bla bla ... take it too personally


most important question
when can we expect a new update?

Let those Devs cook their meals. If it is not your taste, go and sit on another table. I myself will stay on this one definitely and eagerly wait for the next course!

 

[akki_sky]

Helio g85, 4gb ram, android 13

It's kind of hit and miss with this processor. If you had 6 or 8 gb ram with this processor, it would have worked or if you have more than 50% storage space empty then it could still work with processor but i wouldn't bet on it.
It's better to play on pc or Laptop.

 

[What's Up Doc?]

Funny you can have your opinion and tell us what the Dev is thinking or doing and how he's not going to listen to anyone but you. But don't let anyone else do that...

I didn't express any opinion about changing the story flow of the game? I'm just sending a message to support the developer.

I've never gone into a game like you and cried like "ahh this script is so bad change that shit, ahh this really annoys me please don't do this wtf is that". If a game annoys me I simply stop playing it. I don't pester the developer to change it.

Especially when it's a successful game with such a huge following in a short period of time. That means people really like it, so that means it's just me, I say this game is not for me, not for my taste. So I'll quit. Simple.

 

[Silwith]

When an immersed player is presented with a situation where they are looking for a sexual fetish to experience with a loving partner other than be cucked enthusiastically or be cucked casually

This whole section. You put into words, quite eloquently I must add, my main concern with the project. I very much hope there's some effort made in later versions to improve upon this, and while I will continue to support the project, I'm going to hold off and see if things do improve before experiencing the game in full.

But then you are simply playing the wrong game... the Dev made clear, this game is about, so to say, "being cucked enthusiastically or being cucked casually", it's the whole point of the game, so why are you playing it if that is not what you want? As I see it you don't want to make the game better, you want it to change its direction
Like, I can see the critique about the dom-path not flowing as smooth as the sub-path, but only in a way that some choices could be rephrased to make it more feel the MCs initiative then Lauras, this is still about a game about the girlfriend having fun with other guys, it's the whole point, there won't (and shouldn't) be any change to that.

 

[anatoma]

Why is the animated tag here? I haven't found any animation

 

[User_68P]

"being cucked enthusiastically or being cucked casually"

Maybe it would have been better to name the paths according to this instead of "dom/sub" to avoid confusion

 

[klaus98]

Guys help the 0.10.3 the latest update in the android version isn't opening for me. It shows a black screen and transports me back to home

I have the same issue, I thought I was the only one, I reinstalled the app like 3 times

 

[Adamska]

But then you are simply playing the wrong game... the Dev made clear, this game is about, so to say, "being cucked enthusiastically or being cucked casually", it's the whole point of the game, so why are you playing it if that is not what you want? As I see it you don't want to make the game better, you want it to change its direction

You're playing the wrong game is so boring. There are many types of sharing story relationships, and a reader needs to go through a story at least once to know if they like it. You either didn't read my post or don't understand it, I was following the game for awhile but realized it's not for me already. I do see enough potential in it to check back occasionally and leave feedback on a forum that's been set up for porn game discussions. I'm not sure why you have a problem with that.

The Dom path isn't providing a traditional Stag experience, it's the Sub story with MC cheerleading. I tried to explain why that becomes a problem for some readers who wind up feeling like they wasted time on the story after being hooked by the intro. The self-titled obedient slut who now belongs to Nathan, schedules her own surprise dates with him, takes his cues for what he thinks MC will like in the bedroom, tells the MC it's too late now if he isn't turned on by something, and doesn't really feel like any rules or boundaries are necessary is not super attractive to most Dominant partners. Indie games often expand over time, this one already has. The dev mentioned on this forum how the perspective chosen for MC might have limited options that would have been nice to have (e.g. forced passivity, not wanting to show pictures with the MC to avoid breaking immersion and all the design decisions that come with it, etc.). Stories built on code tracking multiple routes can be expanded by adding content, not removing it. Feedback might lead to a better end product with more options that keep more readers engaged. Nobody is coming to take away your cucky time.

 

[Joshy92]

Well, the game is about netorase and hotwifing not a stag & vixen set up so I'm not surprised that Laura is how she is.

I think this game takes inspiration from those japanese netorase focused games I have played at least the storyline is similar anyway.