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Silwith

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The dev needs to clear up terminology is something we agree on and is my primary point that even the dev has acknowledged. The other part was however an optional idea for content expansion for other kinks to prevent further genre confusion. Criticism is meant to be constructive after all, and there is always the potential to improve.
Fair enough, I can see that.

Side note: the game is is more willing netorare than netorase has it stands and is implied/semi confirmed to be be heading. Nothing wrong with that, but it is a misused term for a title. Though I would hazard (what ever consensual or willing translate to in Japanese) Netorare Phone is less catchy perhaps of a title. Plus there is already a game named NTR Phone on this site so...
Here I have to disagree,
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Now, if we go by the definition, then the game is 100% netorase, the MC encourages and enjoys Laura doing what she does, the behaviour of Oliver for example may seem like someone that would also fit into a netorare context, BUT, as long as the MC likes it and encourages it it stays netorase, it does not have to be respectful to be netorase, I think that is the misunderstanding here. This is underlined by the fact that Laura makes pretty clear that she loves the MC and only the MC.
It can be full on humiliation of the MC, as long as he is into it and Laura is his girlfriend and does not get "stolen" by someone it stays netorase.
(Now, we could say your argument makes sense from some players perspective, that want more control, for them it may feel more like ntr, but that is coming from a misunderstanding of the game, the game itself is netorase, the MC is preddetermined to like it and want it, thats the story, so if the player does not like it, thats a problem on the players side)
 
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SanityVoid

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Sep 26, 2023
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Fair enough, I can see that.


Here I have to disagree,
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Now, if we go by the definition, then the game is 100% netorase, the MC encourages and enjoys Laura doing what she does, the behaviour of Oliver for example may seem like someone that would also fit into a netorare context, BUT, as long as the MC likes it and encourages it it stays netorase, it does not have to be respectful to be netorase, I think that is the misunderstanding here. This is underlined by the fact that Laura makes pretty clear that she loves the MC and only the MC.
It can be full on humiliation of the MC, as long as he is into it and Laura is his girlfriend and does not get "stolen" by someone it stays netorase.
(Now, we could say your argument makes sense from some players perspective, that want more control, for them it may feel more like ntr, but that is coming from a misunderstanding of the game, the game itself is netorase, the MC is preddetermined to like it and want it, thats the story, so if the player does not like it, thats a problem on the players side)
Depending on the accuracy of that definition that actually confirms a thought that I have been having that there is something with the translation vs usage getting lost between translation and usage. Sharing has mentioned is a separate genre take it from someone with a like of sharing less like but still too an extent likes consensual cuckolding, but kind of hate cuckolding and how its used/portrayed.

The difference in genres if true would be : the difference between NTR and NTI is perspective while the difference between NTR and NTS is consent. While sharing the definition not translation would need a separate genre. Much like swinging and swapping are different in nature sharing and Netorase be definition not translation are different genres.

So something really did get lost in translation...
Use vs translation being the point of disconnect...
 

akki_sky

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Not sure why people are complaining, just let the dev go the way they want it to go or join the Patreon if you want a voice. Looking forward to the next update.
I don't know what your problem is. This is pirate site. This is also discussion forum, people can discuss what they like or not. discuss about their views. No one forcing dev to reply to them. None of free player going on any of his official platform to irritate him. People are sharing their opinion here, so what is your problem?
 

Tunnn

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Aug 12, 2020
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I don't know what your problem is. This is pirate site. This is also discussion forum, people can discuss what they like or not. discuss about their views. No one forcing dev to reply to them. None of free player going on any of his official platform to irritate him. People are sharing their opinion here, so what is your problem?
I don’t have a problem at all, I said I don’t know why people are complaining - if you are looking to discuss and theorise what’s coming next then great, if you are bashing the dev for moving in directions or not moving in directions then you’re whining. No idea why you’re trying to escalate, like you said it’s a pirate site, so relax.
 

lechieur6

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Aug 21, 2023
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I don’t have a problem at all, I said I don’t know why people are complaining - if you are looking to discuss and theorise what’s coming next then great, if you are bashing the dev for moving in directions or not moving in directions then you’re whining. No idea why you’re trying to escalate, like you said it’s a pirate site, so relax.
nobody is bashing the dev, nor whining. i don't understand why peoples giving their opinions on the game make you react that strongly. secondly why would joining patreon be your answer? the dev is literally on this forum, peoples can talk to him here.
 
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deviousstorm

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nobody is bashing the dev, nor whining. i don't understand why peoples giving their opinions on the game make you react that strongly. secondly why would joining patreon be your answer? the dev is literally on this forum, peoples can talk to him here.
Plus not everyone has money to just throw around, and I am more than willing to wait for the updates to come out to the public and I give opinions on the public version.
 

taylorvn

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Feb 6, 2023
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Le Stag
When is the final version planned for? I'm not asking about the next release, just the final version, or eventually a complete season. Is it a matter of half a year, a year or years?
How many chapters/acts/episodes are planned in total? What's the current percentage of completion? Are we halfway there or is this just the beginning?
Is there a long-term roadmap? If not, maybe you could consider creating one on Trello or similar site?
Is this game planned as a complete work at all or is it more of a never-ending story? Have you thought about possible ending scenarios (you don't have to reveal them - I'm just asking if you already have a vision of them) or are you focusing on the upcoming releases for now?
 
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Sixty

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Have you thought about possible ending scenarios (you don't have to reveal them - I'm just asking if you already have a vision of them) or are you focusing on the upcoming releases for now?
So in the planned ending Ashley is revealed to be a succubus who's trying to make Laura her high priestess. By the time the MC and Tara figure it out, Laura has a 12-bull harem and is living pretty much in a perpetual gangbang.

Tara manages to free Nathan with a bunch of sex, then the MC and Nathan raid Ashley's temple (aka a cheap motel by the beach) and in the final boss fight, team up to fuck Laura so thoroughly that her mind is free from Ashley's spell.

Laura, the MC, and Nathan escape to a tropical island where they live as a perpetual threesome, with Nathan getting most of the pussy of course. Tara joins them, but mostly to watch.

True story.
 

BuffKat

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So in the planned ending Ashley is revealed to be a succubus who's trying to make Laura her high priestess. By the time the MC and Tara figure it out, Laura has a 12-bull harem and is living pretty much in a perpetual gangbang.

Tara manages to free Nathan with a bunch of sex, then the MC and Nathan raid Ashley's temple (aka a cheap motel by the beach) and in the final boss fight, team up to fuck Laura so thoroughly that her mind is free from Ashley's spell.

Laura, the MC, and Nathan escape to a tropical island where they live as a perpetual threesome, with Nathan getting most of the pussy of course. Tara joins them, but mostly to watch.

True story.
Careful with yo words there. MFs here are too horny to think critically and might just believe you
 

deviousstorm

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So in the planned ending Ashley is revealed to be a succubus who's trying to make Laura her high priestess. By the time the MC and Tara figure it out, Laura has a 12-bull harem and is living pretty much in a perpetual gangbang.

Tara manages to free Nathan with a bunch of sex, then the MC and Nathan raid Ashley's temple (aka a cheap motel by the beach) and in the final boss fight, team up to fuck Laura so thoroughly that her mind is free from Ashley's spell.

Laura, the MC, and Nathan escape to a tropical island where they live as a perpetual threesome, with Nathan getting most of the pussy of course. Tara joins them, but mostly to watch.

True story.
Cinema
 

Lomumai

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So in the planned ending Ashley is revealed to be a succubus who's trying to make Laura her high priestess. By the time the MC and Tara figure it out, Laura has a 12-bull harem and is living pretty much in a perpetual gangbang.

Tara manages to free Nathan with a bunch of sex, then the MC and Nathan raid Ashley's temple (aka a cheap motel by the beach) and in the final boss fight, team up to fuck Laura so thoroughly that her mind is free from Ashley's spell.

Laura, the MC, and Nathan escape to a tropical island where they live as a perpetual threesome, with Nathan getting most of the pussy of course. Tara joins them, but mostly to watch.

True story.
I think it's a fun idea
 

Onio

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Mar 14, 2018
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I love the update so much. And i love the fall into depravity. IMO its totaly okay that Luara still wants to mess around with other boys. I love girls which are sexually open and it gives us even option to avoid it so everyone wins.

Also i love how the girls are just getting all corrupted to Ashley. Especially Tara. Oliver is jerk, but seing "your gf" being treated by absollute asshole is kinda thriling in its own way.

Biggest and best highlight for me, that the girl loves MC and it is a adventure instead of trying to make GF fuck as many guys she can during the weekend.

It has depth, it has focus on sublots and i believe, unless you are NTR hater, this is how Subverse supposed to be. Storywriting wise and everyone being so colorful in their character.

My hat down to game dev.
 

SisconM

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Jun 22, 2020
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The writing's better than I thought, especially the progression of the girl's corruption, I just wished the dominant and sub routes flowed differently instead of going through the same plot with different flavors of certain text.

Love how the girl herself has a personal fetish as well, and not just the usual blank slate that collects fetishes from all over.

The other thing I really wish this game has is better ahegao/expressions for certain CG's(I know its AI but I feel like some of the climax CG's could do with some photoshopping of the AI art to add the expressions) like the one where Nathan sends you Laura's second orgasm and its just slightly different compared to the other one she sent, or one of the blowjob orgasm scenes where the message explains that her "eyes rolled back" but the CG just happens to be the scene before it happens. Puts a damper on some of those events.



on a side note:
Careful with yo words there. MFs here are too horny to think critically and might just believe you
I love how this is an excuse for stupidity that only works in forums like these, especially if there's a follow up post nut clarity apology
 
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I love the update so much. And i love the fall into depravity. IMO its totaly okay that Luara still wants to mess around with other boys. I love girls which are sexually open and it gives us even option to avoid it so everyone wins.

Also i love how the girls are just getting all corrupted to Ashley. Especially Tara. Oliver is jerk, but seing "your gf" being treated by absollute asshole is kinda thriling in its own way.

Biggest and best highlight for me, that the girl loves MC and it is a adventure instead of trying to make GF fuck as many guys she can during the weekend.

It has depth, it has focus on sublots and i believe, unless you are NTR hater, this is how Subverse supposed to be. Storywriting wise and everyone being so colorful in their character.

My hat down to game dev.
100% agree with all of this
 

meuh_trash

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Mar 1, 2020
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How often this one is updated?
Usually the schedule / release / update planning is:
  • Patreon release every 3 weeks on Tuesday in the morning (next one this Tuesday - October 1st 2024),
  • Patreon release become free after a 1 week - the dev make the patreon post with an automatic timer for it,
  • Some time there is some leak before the patreon become officially free then schedule of the version here can vary,
  • Some minor release / corrective patch can be made in the patreon release but usually the original post is updated without changes of the timeline (and sometimes the leak is not the last minor patch),
  • In between every week there is a "showcase", originally it was free not patreon only on Tuesday in the afternoon.
Of course, the dev Le Stag (who still does not have the "dev" tag in here) is :
  • a human,
  • working alone on the game,
  • have a "real" work,
  • have a life,
then it may be possible than sometime an event can impact the planning.
 

aqd

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Jul 16, 2017
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Yeah the biggest job is probably the writer. And that's the part I'm saying "boy I wish somebody would" because I don't want to do it :D.
Yeah, I can write some, but bull's perspective I think is a hard one and doesn't really interest me.
 

nickohoma

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Yeah, I can write some, but bull's perspective I think is a hard one and doesn't really interest me.
That's exactly it. I did the Nathan intro from Nathan's perspective in the fan art thread, but that was fun because the narrator could be confused and surprised at everything going on. I don't think I could write the later scenes to be as interesting.
 
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