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As the patch notes say, the recollection room was remade. So if you have saves in the old one, it won't have anything new in it. The new one has a snow aesthetic, no walls, and no bunny. The fastest way to get to it is to start in story mode, skip everything, and in the first base menu go to the room, it's called the "dream diary" under additional maps.
How do I get to the secondary room with the grope animation stuff in it?
 

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So does that mean if you upgraded your class you can't unlock femboy?
The femboy content doesn't care what your class is. There is a bug though that once you're perma-femboy you can upgrade your class and not be a femboy anymore. So don't do that.

is the groping scenes still in the gallery or not?
Yes, but they're only accessible on a cleared save. Also a forgot to put the femboy gropes in there.

hmm I can't upgrade my class to femboy even though I bought all the items and I'm already level 20
You don't upgrade to be a femboy. You need to buy and put on the chastity cage item.

is there a way to see more than text when gwen is with someone in the cave?
No. That's all that exists for those scenes.
 
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For some reason after Gwenivier-Owain's relationship level hits 3. Owain stops getting affection no matter how much he gropes her. He's sitting at 2 and it never increases. Anyone know the issue?
 

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I can't believe I'm saying this after I finished, I like Netorare and understand this is Netorare, but I have to admit I feel like the main pair felt underbaked for how much diversity there was. Just me?
Like the brother-scene, I expected that to go somewhere. If you're loyal to her she admits she did it and apologies and they, if she's slutty then she denies it and gaslights him, and if she's with 1 of the others she admits it and they argue driving her away. Something like that, because for the most part I'm not sure why you'd try to go through the loyal routes in this game when the pair feel like they barely have bonding moments.
 
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I can't believe I'm saying this after I finished, I like Netorare and understand this is Netorare, but I have to admit I feel like the main pair felt underbaked for how much diversity there was. Just me?
Like the brother-scene, I expected that to go somewhere. If you're loyal to her she admits she did it and apologies and they, if she's slutty then she denies it and gaslights him, and if she's with 1 of the others she admits it and they argue driving her away. Something like that, because for the most part I'm not sure why you'd try to go through the loyal routes in this game when the pair feel like they barely have bonding moments.
You pretty much described every NTR game that has love routes.
 
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You don't upgrade to be a femboy. You need to buy and put on the chastity cage item.
Yet another game where becoming a femboy means you have to cage your cock. Why? Why cant we be a femboy and not PUNISH ourselves. Every game developer makes being a femboy synomous with being weak and having no self respect and a sissy? Even though this game is set up for the PC to not be a weak femboy, yet the chasity cage is a requirement. I'm glad I read this be giving the a shot.
 

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the story difficulty gets deactivated out of nowhere when fighting the thug and two robots. if you played on story and reach that part they're essentially unbeatable
 

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You pretty much described every NTR game that has love routes.
I disagree.
For this game in particular, it show that the girl isn't naturally suited for the MC in my opinion, he push trough it nonetheless if the player want it but she isn't for granted. I mean prior to one of the last patch, the love route end wasn't particularly satisfying because if you had done ONE mistake, if she was grabbed once, it was done but you have no clue. So i did one mistake (at the mission where you have to let her on a button to please a gargoyle ) and it let me to a bad end but nothing indicate that. nevertheless i think the fact that she wasn't suited for the MC make the NTR more believable.
Anyways i'm happy with the love route now.

For NTR games in general, a lot of games do these route to put the bad one in perspective. That doesn't mean some aren't nice to do. Some even hit harder because the romance is well done! For example "Treasure Something irreplaceable that I found" build the romance between the MC and the FMC for hours, to better crush it with violence after that. It was a bit painful to watch and i didn't even do some of the worst end! But my point was that there is some romance that are good to see in these NTR even if it's not the norm sadly.

Other example like Nebel Geisterjager and some other are good to my liking but again i like it when you have to work a bit hard to save the girl in these game, when you have the urge to save her before it's too late, whenever it's because she will be raped soon or because she will slowly but surely be corrupted.

That's also why netoria tactics is interesting. the gameplay reward you when you let the NTR happening but if you try to save the girl, the game is harder. You have to constantly take care of the NTR, adding a new layer of difficulty. As long as the game give me a good end (and not an end when everything you endure are for nothing/ troll end), it's okay
 
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Anyone else crashing during the clone fight?
Not that I've heard of. Could you be more specific about what the error says?

For some reason after Gwenivier-Owain's relationship level hits 3. Owain stops getting affection no matter how much he gropes her. He's sitting at 2 and it never increases. Anyone know the issue?
How do you know what Owain's affection is? The option in the camp to look at them? It's probably just bugged I honestly forgot that even existed until your comment.

Yet another game where becoming a femboy means you have to cage your cock. Why? Why cant we be a femboy and not PUNISH ourselves. Every game developer makes being a femboy synomous with being weak and having no self respect and a sissy? Even though this game is set up for the PC to not be a weak femboy, yet the chasity cage is a requirement. I'm glad I read this be giving the a shot.
You only have to put it on once, you can remove it immeadiatly after and the scenes check if you're wearing it or not before showing or referencing it.

It sounds like you're the one with hangups here. The chastity cage in the game doesn't represent Carwyn punishing himself or having no self respect, it represents him being willing to go so far into feminizing himself that he'd give up the use of his cock altogether, even if temporarily. It's a symbol of the rejection of his role as being dominant, or penetration. Not a humiliation. The only femboy route with humiliation in it is Owain's, and that's because Owain is a huge asshole.

is this game completed why it give updates?
i wanan wait for full game
Because it's just alternate, additional content. If you played the game before, nothing has changed except there's a new series of routes you can do. And besides, the game was finished, this update wasn't planned to be made until a few months ago. Am I supposed to never put the complete tag on anything in case I feel like adding something later? Or am I not supposed to make new fun content for something because I dared to put the complete tag on it at some point?
 

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Yet another game where becoming a femboy means you have to cage your cock. Why? Why cant we be a femboy and not PUNISH ourselves. Every game developer makes being a femboy synomous with being weak and having no self respect and a sissy? Even though this game is set up for the PC to not be a weak femboy, yet the chasity cage is a requirement. I'm glad I read this be giving the a shot.
I get what your saying and actually agree in a general sense. However, I don't necessarily equate wearing a cage to punishment or that it is synonymous with being a weak sissy lacking self respect. I feel like it can simply be a sort of "I feel more like a girl so I want to put this thing away and not use it for sex" kind of thing.

Now, if a game makes it obvious that the cage is punishment or if there is a general tone of disrespecting the caged individual, then I usually just quit that game and move on. I haven't gotten to any femboy content here so I can't comment on this game specifically yet.

I prefer MtF, genderbending, feminization, trans, and femboy content to be treated in ways that do not denigrate or dehumanize, but I am obviously aware that there are those out there who actually want that type of content.
 
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