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HopesGaming

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Its not banned here and its legal in 95% in the world.
Laws against underage pornography are there to prevent underage participants beeing used to create Porn. No children are used in making sprite sex images ...

There is underage sex in game of thrones (sigh I am tired of using this argument) and in hundread other mainstream places. Its freedom of art.

What you saying is compleate garbage. It is bad if I tell she is 14yo, but it is ok if I tell she is 50 and looking like 8.

And here on this site rules are - underage participants are not allowed if they are depicted in realistic way. Cartoon and sprite characters are confirmed to be allowed.
Thats why there are games here even having todlercon in it ...

And let me worry about my own problems dude. If anything else - I am making this stuff mostly for myself ;]
Easy there tiger. I am not here to start a discussion on the morality of pedophilia in cartoons. If that's your kink so be it.
Was merely suggesting that you should perhaps write and see how other sites you plan to upload your games at feels about it to avoid any annoying situations down the line.
But as it seems to be a sore subject for you so I withdraw the suggestion and wish you good luck on your game.
 

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Easy there tiger. I am not here to start a discussion on the morality of pedophilia in cartoons. If that's your kink so be it.
Was merely suggesting that you should perhaps write and see how other sites you plan to upload your games at feels about it to avoid any annoying situations down the line.
But as it seems to be a sore subject for you so I withdraw the suggestion and wish you good luck on your game.
1. Pedophilia is for children before puberty.
2. I dont have sore subject in that regard. Sore subject for me is whenever someone is restricting anyones artistic freedom in whatever sense or form.
Be it excessive violance, political correctness, sexuality or anything.
We have the right to create whatever we want. Only restrictions are - do not harm anyone while making it, do not use real people in your stories so they dont get harmed by your work, dont distribute it publicly without warning people what they going to see.

Its ok to make Porn movies and sell them in on-line stores, but its not all right to have explicit materials in public places where kids can see it.

Distributing it on porn sites, discord channels with porn tematics etc is fine.

I will fight to my last breath for freedom of speach and creation of fiction.

BTW. Churches are full of little children in sexual poses (cherubins), Medieval art is full of children in sex positions. Go destroy all art
 
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I am willing to try making this game myself. But I a bit of help with it.


1. What software do I need to make my own game. Con you get any for free ? Idealy with a database of assets to use in fantasy setting style.
2. Which engine would be best for medium sized game based in fantasy settings ?
Here is the premise of the game I want to make
https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-links-titles-resources.2711/post-2102049

3. Any tutorials on making your own game would be welcome, as well as links to some free presets of maps like Castles, Encampments in Forest, Forests and Orc encampments.

PS. I see RPG Maker VX Ace is on the sale on steam. But can you even use it in making Smut games ? The base software might be rather cheap right now, but the assests DLCs are not. Do other Devs on this site use the Steam software to make their games, or some pirate cracked versions anyway ?
I wish you luck, you can learn a lot working with rpg maker as I did(mine is pirate if you ask :p) and not only with that program so, I highly recommend you to try things with it, don't worry if you're a bit clueless at the beginning, there's a lot of tutorials out there if you are stuck with some mechanics of the game, by the way, maybe you revealed too much plot xD.
 
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Just don't call a gobbo Chadd. Its like calling him Franklinn. Something more fantasy-ish. No, no Jamal either. There are many goblin name generators out there.
 

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Easy there tiger. I am not here to start a discussion on the morality of pedophilia in cartoons. If that's your kink so be it.
Was merely suggesting that you should perhaps write and see how other sites you plan to upload your games at feels about it to avoid any annoying situations down the line.
But as it seems to be a sore subject for you so I withdraw the suggestion and wish you good luck on your game.
Why do you excuse for that?

1. Pedophilia is for children before puberty.
2. I dont have sore subject in that regard. Sore subject for me is whenever someone is restricting anyones artistic freedom in whatever sense or form.
Be it excessive violance, political correctness, sexuality or anything.
We have the right to create whatever we want. Only restrictions are - do not harm anyone while making it, do not use real people in your stories so they dont get harmed by your work, dont distribute it publicly without warning people what they going to see.

Its ok to make Porn movies and sell them in on-line stores, but its not all right to have explicit materials in public places where kids can see it.

Distributing it on porn sites, discord channels with porn tematics etc is fine.

I will fight to my last breath for freedom of speach and creation of fiction.

BTW. Churches are full of little children in sexual poses (cherubins), Medieval art is full of children in sex positions. Go destroy all art
Dude, call it what ever you want, no hard feelings here, but displaying a 14yo having sey will give you a hard time on any platform, no matter what. This has nothing to do with restricting artistic freedom, it's common sense.
 

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1. Pedophilia is for children before puberty.
2. I dont have sore subject in that regard. Sore subject for me is whenever someone is restricting anyones artistic freedom in whatever sense or form.
Be it excessive violance, political correctness, sexuality or anything.
We have the right to create whatever we want. Only restrictions are - do not harm anyone while making it, do not use real people in your stories so they dont get harmed by your work, dont distribute it publicly without warning people what they going to see.

Its ok to make Porn movies and sell them in on-line stores, but its not all right to have explicit materials in public places where kids can see it.

Distributing it on porn sites, discord channels with porn tematics etc is fine.

I will fight to my last breath for freedom of speach and creation of fiction.

BTW. Churches are full of little children in sexual poses (cherubins), Medieval art is full of children in sex positions. Go destroy all art
Relax. I don't know why you go on about freedom of speech, restrictions, and freedom of art. I never said you can't make this game. I merely said you may write to any sites you plan on uploading the game to see how they feel about it as not everyone shares your view on child pornography.

But to answer some of the things you keep bringing up. Which is easy. None of the things you mentioned are made for the sake of bringing pleasure to the viewer. No one thinks cherubins is made for the sake of spreading pleasure to people that enjoy child pornography. Movies do not do it for pleasure but usually to tell a story and it's mostly cut off and made in a way that the viewer feels bad by watching it.
But porn involving young children is the opposite. Its main purpose is to glorify child pornography.
And you are right about it not being pedophilia. That is usually 13 and under. 14 is hebephilia. However, it is still child pornography and does not change much about the fact. It's mostly wordplay.
 

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You know what would be a good idea and something that actually is unique for the god forsaken genre ?

Your MC is an asshole to his wife, sister, harem... And the NTR people are actually decent human beings, who actually love the girls and steal them away from the garbage MC...

Your idea has already been done multiple times where the MC is attractive and a CHAD in his own right, but still gets cucked by weaker life forms such as teeny boper idiots, or 90 yr old men...
While I agree with you suggestion wouldn't that fall in more along the lines of Netori?
 

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While I agree with you suggestion wouldn't that fall in more along the lines of Netori?
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Netori never had anything to do with who is right or wrong, good or bad... it's basically the reverse of NTR... Netori is when your MC steals from others... in the example I gave I still want the others to steal from the MC (the person we play)... I just want them to be good people rather than the asshole losers that would never get laid in real life with half the women in these games.
 

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Relax. I don't know why you go on about freedom of speech, restrictions, and freedom of art. I never said you can't make this game. I merely said you may write to any sites you plan on uploading the game to see how they feel about it as not everyone shares your view on child pornography.

But to answer some of the things you keep bringing up. Which is easy. None of the things you mentioned are made for the sake of bringing pleasure to the viewer. No one thinks cherubins is made for the sake of spreading pleasure to people that enjoy child pornography. Movies do not do it for pleasure but usually to tell a story and it's mostly cut off and made in a way that the viewer feels bad by watching it.
But porn involving young children is the opposite. Its main purpose is to glorify child pornography.
And you are right about it not being pedophilia. That is usually 13 and under. 14 is hebephilia. However, it is still child pornography and does not change much about the fact. It's mostly wordplay.
No its not pornography - pornography involves real people.
Everything I write or draw or create in PC is fictional work of art.
That's the law. Only example of anyone ever beeing sentenced for drawn porn was one guy somewhere in one particuarly backwards states. But even he wasnt sentenced for using underage characters in art he created.
He was sentence for violating obscenity law (which is hilarious), and btw once he promised to remove his art from the public space, his sentence was dropped.

But this is enough on that topic - it doesnt belong here, and you are actualy breaking the rules for speaking of topic more than I am for depicting the game I create however I like.

If you want to discuss something productive - we can talk. But if you want to stroke your ego with your rendition of social justice - please leave.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Netori never had anything to do with who is right or wrong, good or bad... it's basically the reverse of NTR... Netori is when your MC steals from others... in the example I gave I still want the others to steal from the MC (the person we play)... I just want them to be good people rather than the asshole losers that would never get laid in real life with half the women in these games.
Honestly, I tend avoid most games with the NTR tag so my experience with NTR is rather lacking, as opposed to Netori which I find more palatable. When I read your initial post it sounded more along the lines of following Netori rather than NTR. Given that as you put it we'd still be playing the MC, that would categorically fall under the idea of NTR. But nevertheless I do think you're suggestion was interesting and I wouldn't mind seeing that explored in such games. It's definitely has some untapped potential and would be a new take on the genre as a whole.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Netori never had anything to do with who is right or wrong, good or bad... it's basically the reverse of NTR... Netori is when your MC steals from others... in the example I gave I still want the others to steal from the MC (the person we play)... I just want them to be good people rather than the asshole losers that would never get laid in real life with half the women in these games.
In this case it would change into netori. Why ? Becouse it would automaticaly make you sympathise and immerse yourself into the good guy shoes.

Statistics say only 10% of players choose to play a bad character when given the choice ;]
 
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In this case it would change into netori. Why ? Becouse it would automaticaly make you sympathise and immerse yourself into the good guy shoes.

Statistics say only 10% of players choose to play a bad character when given the choice ;]
So basically I was right all along, and despite how colorful and artful the sympathizers of the NTR genre screech, the main gist of games featuring it is to churn your stomach and piss you off, or make you sad... Basically the equivalent of "game over" in normal games ? A "you lost" or a "fuck you player" is basically the end result...

Anyway... good luck with your game, I like the little art portraits so far.
 

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No its not pornography - pornography involves real people.
Everything I write or draw or create in PC is fictional work of art.
That's the law. Only example of anyone ever beeing sentenced for drawn porn was one guy somewhere in one particuarly backwards states. But even he wasnt sentenced for using underage characters in art he created.
He was sentence for violating obscenity law (which is hilarious), and btw once he promised to remove his art from the public space, his sentence was dropped.

But this is enough on that topic - it doesnt belong here, and you are actualy breaking the rules for speaking of topic more than I am for depicting the game I create however I like.

If you want to discuss something productive - we can talk. But if you want to stroke your ego with your rendition of social justice - please leave.
What in the world are you going on about? So pornography is not a thing if it's not real people? What in the world are we making here then? Thrillers? Games for the whole family to enjoy on a Friday night?
Also, I never stated anything about the law nor said that you can't make it.
I even said I withdraw my advice as I could see it was a sore topic for you but as you kept going I of course answered.

Again, I won't further this discussion and wish you luck with your game.
 

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So basically I was right all along, and despite how colorful and artful the sympathizers of the NTR genre screech, the main gist of games featuring it is to churn your stomach and piss you off, or make you sad... Basically the equivalent of "game over" in normal games ? A "you lost" or a "fuck you player" is basically the end result...

Anyway... good luck with your game, I like the little art portraits so far.
Ofc - psychological suffering is integral part of any NTR. If everyone is happy - it is not ntr game.
But thing is most NTR fans dont immerse themselves fully into that character. I personaly look at it from 3rd person perspective.
Enjoying the drama, cheating and emotions, but not necesserly feeling sorry for MC.
 

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Ofc - psychological suffering is integral part of any NTR. If everyone is happy - it is not ntr game.
But thing is most NTR fans dont immerse themselves fully into that character. I personaly look at it from 3rd person perspective.
Enjoying the drama, cheating and emotions, but not necesserly feeling sorry for MC.
I play any and all games from 3rd person... it doesnt mean I enjoy assholes winning...

Thats like me reading a comic where Superman gets the shit kicked out of him by a petty bald and fat Lex Luthor who then fucks Lois Lane in front of him saying shit like "suck it alien, this is what happens when you bring hope and good to this world, this is your thanks"...
 

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I play any and all games from 3rd person... it doesnt mean I enjoy assholes winning...

Thats like me reading a comic where Superman gets the shit kicked out of him by a petty bald and fat Lex Luthor who then fucks Lois Lane in front of him saying shit like "suck it alien, this is what happens when you bring hope and good to this world, this is your thanks"...
That bit with Superman is 100% great example of NTR. Would love to see it ;]
 

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Here is the world Map and a close up on the area where the game action will be taking place !


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Your Country Fiorilia will be attacked by the Empire of Styr, and you will have to flee through the Wild Lands towards another friendly Kingdom Beotica to survive the pursuit of the Tyran Emperor.

Fiorilia is the tiny kingdom between the wall mountains and the river. The Blue Castle is your capital.
It was peacefull and prosperous, untill Empire attacked ;p (ok that is cheasy but who cares about this shit anyway;] ?)

Now you will have to go through the Wild Lands filled with Orcs and Monsters - lands than havent been charted by any men.

So from the blue castle on the left towards the cost that I pointed with the flaming arrow on the right ;]

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PS>And I would like to have some imput from you people observing this.

I am not decided yet on the title that game should have. Since you mostly know the plot of the game anyway (without details) - you could have a good idea how this game should be called.

I myself so far thought about 2 names - both are a bit long and not ideal IMHO but its something.

So how should I name the game ?
So the options are.

1. Royals on the run
2. Prince on Goblin's Mercy

3. Royal family x Goblins ;] - thats stupid ;p

For as much as I think I am competent Writer never had a knack for names and titles ;]

Feel free to offer your sugestions !
 
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Here some aditional notes on my project.

1. I intend to do this game non-profit.
There will be some fringe content here, and I dont want to bother with setting up any foundrasers or anything.

2. Becouse of that I dont think I will be able to afford any commisions on the art. But it is fine - Sprites + Sound Effects + Good quality text description hopefully will be enough.

3. That beeing said - it is non-profit game, and I might be "borrowing" a few assets from outside games at some point, (mostly Japanese created games). But I am not sure yet. It will definetly be easier to create my own sprite animations using something as base.

4. So I plan to have no drawn CG art in the game. But if some Artist would like to support the project in the future, I might consider it. But I am pretty particular on the details so it wont be an easy work ;].
I am not sure if 3D art is the way to go tho. If there are no other options and the game is compleate at this point - maybe.

5. Aslo - I will be frank here - Story and NTR is main focus. Neadless details like combat balance, creating super rich to explore unique locations etc are of tertiary importance for me now. I will be shamelessly using presets from the base game if need be, maybe modiffying them etc.
At the very least the Castle will be totaly from there.

That beeing said - I look forward to making this game happen.
I am glad there are people liking my concept.
I will be trying to make it into a reality ;]
 

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The Day of the Goblin.
I trust the goblin with big dick.
Goblins know the way.
Royal pardon goes a long way.
Royal deeds, captive needs.
 
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The Day of the Goblin.
I trust the goblin with big dick.
Goblins know the way.
Royal pardon goes a long way.
Royal deeds, captive needs.
Geee And I though mine were cheesy ;]

"Goblins know the way" seam really accurate, but its not awe inspiring tbh.
But its actualy pretty good. Thx for sugestions anyway !

I probably should use something that will capture the despair of NTR in it. So people know what they are dealing with from the start.
 
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