Java Newlife [v0.8.13] [Splendid Ostrich]

[VictorHayes]

What's a bit infuriating is that most of the scenes implemented come from fans of the game, not SplendidOstritch itself. The hypnotist scenes, for example, came from the Noncon scene discussion discord.

 

[stochastic]

What's a bit infuriating is that most of the scenes implemented come from fans of the game, not SplendidOstritch itself. The hypnotist scenes, for example, came from the Noncon scene discussion discord.

We asked SO to make the hypnotist scene-chain in the custom scene format rather than in Java, but we did not make the scenes. Several people (including me) have made noncon mods, but that hardly counts as making the scenes themselves.

 

[pizbia]

i am honestly curious about these 703 guys on his patreon

he's been doing fuck all for so long that 700 patrons died while waiting, and their bank accounts have now become the eternal paypig

 

[ShamanLab]

I want to be so successful as the developer of this game!!

 

[Pajonk]

WOW one new scene?! MUST BE CHRISTMAS!!
But for real, one new lesbian scene (btw nobody is interested in lesbian content) after months. Not surprised, this is how this dev has been working for years now. I'm not even downloading any updates any more. What's the point? My 7.7c version feels like the newest one.

 

[Pajonk]

I'm gonna wait until 2030 for some content. One scene per 2-3 months is less than lame.

2030? at this time SO will maybe end his fixation with pointless lesbian scenes which nobody wants and proceed to something equally dumb.

 

[alri]

btw nobody is interested in lesbian content

Imagine saying something like that when lesbian is one of the more successful genres in porn.

But more seriously: Ignoring the speed at which new content comes out, lesbian content has won the last vote on which area of the game the dev should focus on (the 0.7 one). So this is very much a you-problem, the patrons are obviously interested in lesbian content.

If you really can't deal with lesbian content, you'll have to wait until the 0.8 branch starts, as that will focus an a different area of the game (again, up to a vote by the patrons).

 

[CreepyGhost]

2030? at this time SO will maybe end his fixation with pointless lesbian scenes which nobody wants and proceed to something equally dumb.

Well said, but I don't really care about lesbian scenes, really, it's just another preference that some people like. What I want to see is some updates with content. Add more events, more positions, more shops, more clubs/bars/parking lots/houses/jobs/traits etc. Adding one line per 2 months when getting so much money is like drinking patreons' wallets with a straw.

 

[ADB]

That's a lot to ask for very little gain, I think. And the way you put it, I think you can see that too. In addition, I suspect many players would be uninterested in several of these so a lot of work put into the game would be willfully ignored by those players.

I haven't played Newlife in, oh I don't know, in two years at least but there were already a ton of minutiae present in the game. Most of which had very little impact in the actual game itself. Other minor details like height or clothing options to represent goth or whatever, or heck your suggestions of sexual orientation can all be encompassed via a little imagination or directly through a natural playthrough of the game reflected by your choices made. There's no need to bury the dev under more busy work (everyone has their own opinions here so let's just all be diplomatic, alright?) when fleshing out bigger scenes and scenarios (not just sex scenes) and the progression of the overall plot should take priority. After all, this game has been live since before the F95 site and it's still a WIP with little meaningful change to it since around the time the dev started to implement user-submitted content several years ago.

I respect your opinion and I don't want to dissuade you from voicing your suggestions, but as you say much of what you suggested would be improbable and tough to implement (and that's if the dev would be interested in doing so in the first place). It was a nice post though. Cheers!

Thank you! Indeed, as you noticed, I myself don't really expect to see a lot of these things, for various reasons, especially the fact as you said it would be a lot for what would be probably very little and would probably not be of interest to a lot of people aside from some very specific niches. I only wanted to express some suggestions, really without expecting to be implemented, just for fun or to express them. Anyway, I'm not sure here, but if I came off as someone who wanted to attack the dev or demanding by him to implement things or to do more work in a disrespectful way, or something similar, I'm sorry if that's the case. I didn't want to. I don't know, if that's the case, maybe it's also because of the fact that English ain't my first language that I came off that way. Again, sorry in any case.

Anyway, thank you again for your message!

 

[kommnistulum]

So on one hand I understand that S.O might just be burnt out and no longer wants to work on this project but feels compelled to since ending the Patreon would mean that he would have to get a real job. The problem with keeping the project going on like this however is that his lack of any sort of passion has resulted in underwhelming update after underwhelming update which has almost certainly led to more and more people cancelling their support as well as turning away potential new supporters who look at the snail's pace of development and promptly move on to support a different project.

Why not then use some of that sweet, sweet Patreon money to hire a broke CS student or just some guy who knows Java to do actual work while SO can handle the writing and still collect the lion's share of the revenues? I imagine that if he hired a couple guys to fix the game's code so that they could actually develop content beyond 2 sentences of dialogue or a single scene a month then interest in the game would be rejuvenated! Not only would this be a win for the fans and supporters who would actually have a project worth supporting, it would save SO's dying cash cow while allowing him to do even less work!

I Unfortunately suspect however that he may be too lazy/stupid to even exert the miniscule effort that such a proposal would require.

 

[saxe1974]

Hi. Is there a way to play in Spanish?. Thank you

 

[monkeybear]

Hi. Is there a way to play in Spanish?. Thank you

Unfortunately not. And by the time SO adds a translation, Spanish will likely be a dead language.

 

[ABlackOcean]

Hi. Is there a way to play in Spanish?. Thank you

Someone would have to translate the whole game on his own, for free! And THEN somehow make the author of the game implement that.
We cant even make him (really) continue the game at all.

Sorry but I deem that to be almost as likely as Putin apologizing to Ukraine for what has been going on. In spanish.

 

[Funny Asian Pirate]

Translation should be easy right? Its just the fact that the SO made it so you can't dig around in the game's source code. If he did, a fan-made mod/version would be on version 1.00 already with 50 new scenes with NC included.

 

[sta123]

Why not then use some of that sweet, sweet Patreon money to hire a broke CS student or just some guy who knows Java to do actual work while SO can handle the writing and still collect the lion's share of the revenues? I imagine that if he hired a couple guys to fix the game's code so that they could actually develop content beyond 2 sentences of dialogue or a single scene a month then interest in the game would be rejuvenated!

I'm sure some of the content creation processes could be streamlined by improving the code, but generally I think the content creation process for Newlife appears especially slow because of the over-elaborate game design rather than just 'bad code'. I've posted about this in more detail in the past. Changing the game design significantly would mean starting again. I reckon SO should have done that long ago... but I'm not a patron.

I Unfortunately suspect however that he may be too lazy/stupid to even exert the miniscule effort that such a proposal would require.

I'm not a fan of the 'SO is lazy' narrative, but I'm going to have to push back hard against 'SO is stupid'. Coding and writing are very different skills, so being competent enough at both to construct a game like Newlife is impressive, whatever its flaws.

Translation should be easy right? Its just the fact that the SO made it so you can't dig around in the game's source code. If he did, a fan-made mod/version would be on version 1.00 already with 50 new scenes with NC included.

It's not easy to translate complex text games that construct text from a series of fragments. The fragments often need to be rearranged to make grammatical sense in other languages, which is not trivial. You really need to plan your game with localisation in mind for it to be practical, doing it retrospectively is impractical.

 

[Pajonk]

Imagine saying something like that when lesbian is one of the more successful genres in porn.

But more seriously: Ignoring the speed at which new content comes out, lesbian content has won the last vote on which area of the game the dev should focus on (the 0.7 one). So this is very much a you-problem, the patrons are obviously interested in lesbian content.

If you really can't deal with lesbian content, you'll have to wait until the 0.8 branch starts, as that will focus an a different area of the game (again, up to a vote by the patrons).

Lesbian content seems waaaaay to mild for me, maybe its just me. I thought most people here are like me, if you watch porn for like 20 years then lesbianism becomes boring and you want way more than that. If it was FUTA though then im the first one on board

 

[bestfriends]

If it was FUTA though then im the first one on board

ew ew eww gross

 

[Solomon Grundy]

Lesbian content seems waaaaay to mild for me, maybe its just me. I thought most people here are like me, if you watch porn for like 20 years then lesbianism becomes boring and you want way more than that. If it was FUTA though then im the first one on board

I, for one, am fully on board with lesbian sex. I think it's hot, and have been waiting for it to be implemented in this game since the damn thing started.

That said, the fact that there's no way for the two to go down on each other? That's a fucking crime!

 

[Jinsem]

What program can I use to play on android or is there an android version?

 

[kommnistulum]

I'm sure some of the content creation processes could be streamlined by improving the code, but generally I think the content creation process for Newlife appears especially slow because of the over-elaborate game design rather than just 'bad code'. I've posted about this in more detail in the past. Changing the game design significantly would mean starting again. I reckon SO should have done that long ago... but I'm not a patron.



I'm not a fan of the 'SO is lazy' narrative, but I'm going to have to push back hard against 'SO is stupid'. Coding and writing are very different skills, so being competent enough at both to construct a game like Newlife is impressive, whatever its flaws.



It's not easy to translate complex text games that construct text from a series of fragments. The fragments often need to be rearranged to make grammatical sense in other languages, which is not trivial. You really need to plan your game with localisation in mind for it to be practical, doing it retrospectively is impractical.

I'll confess that I don't know jack from shit when it comes to coding so I'll take your word for it. I still think that my outsourcing idea would be vastly preferrable to the status quo however. Also when I said "stupid" I didn't mean stupid in the sense of SO being low iq or something like that, the words I should have used were "lacking in common sense" since outsourcing the more tedious parts of the project seems like a no-brainer when you've got a cash cow like this but you find yourself losing motivation to keep working on it.