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lol the game is still alive. Ngl in like 5 years AI will make stories/games like these in seconds. So seeing him making this game for a like decade now is funny as heck.
This game inspired me to find a fun nsfw rpg generator online, its diffrent from actual game, but so much sexier and meaningfull. Dreaming of combining customization in the with ai storytelling.
Edit: haha someone already mentioned perchance. My choice is , what's your fave genertor?
 
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Userd114

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This game inspired me to find a fun nsfw rpg generator online, its diffrent from actual game, but so much sexier and meaningfull.
Edit: haha someone already mentioned perchance. My choice is nsfw ai rpg, what's your fave genertor?
WoW, thanks for the recommendation.
 

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On the subject of using AI to write up scenes for games that people are putting recommendations for...

Personally I attempted to create two different AI "Sextbots" over at the .com of the same name as what I just quoted. More out of curiosity over how advanced the AI code was (after being ad-linked to the site) over any actual erotica desire since I am basically an Ace and porn / sexting doesn't really do anything for me other than as a mental exercise.

So, that site's AI premise of being able to create random scenes dynamically without manually coding it in was quite true. But before anyone rushes to use it to make a game, I am not sure I would recommend it for people to actually use to create logical scenes people would want to read in games. While capable of making very short porn scenes that would fit in most short story erotica collections... It's claims to memory and smart story telling is kind of a lie. I'm going to put the details into a spoiler for content that is not suitable for everyone, etc. but as a one paragraph summary if want to skip reading just accept that the Sextbots AI has the long term memory and cause/effect understanding of a hyperactive dog in "Play! Play! Play!" mode. Don't expect any Great Expectations there.

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On the subject of using AI to write up scenes for games that people are putting recommendations for...

Personally I attempted to create two different AI "Sextbots" over at the .com of the same name as what I just quoted. More out of curiosity over how advanced the AI code was (after being ad-linked to the site) over any actual erotica desire since I am basically an Ace and porn / sexting doesn't really do anything for me other than as a mental exercise.

So, that site's AI premise of being able to create random scenes dynamically without manually coding it in was quite true. But before anyone rushes to use it to make a game, I am not sure I would recommend it for people to actually use to create logical scenes people would want to read in games. While capable of making very short porn scenes that would fit in most short story erotica collections... It's claims to memory and smart story telling is kind of a lie. I'm going to put the details into a spoiler for content that is not suitable for everyone, etc. but as a one paragraph summary if want to skip reading just accept that the Sextbots AI has the long term memory and cause/effect understanding of a hyperactive dog in "Play! Play! Play!" mode. Don't expect any Great Expectations there.

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Fascinating. Your conclusions make sense, and kind of illustrate why this game was so compelling despite its mediocrity and lack of updates. While AI models might be able to create short stories that are decently written, they can't emulate even the small amount of interconnectedness that this game has. The funny thing is that your point about the "transition" issue is evident in almost all games in the lifesim genre, as most struggle to carry over the impact of decisions from one aspect of the game to the next.
 

boobmanlord

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I don't know about "AI" making better stories. Personally, if someone wasn't bothered to write it I won't be bothered to read it. Though I guess applying the idea of AI to Newlife wouldn't be too bad if it meant we got monthly updates with decent amount of content. Agreed that longevity/consistency would be key to make it work.
Well gang, I'm starting 2025 by admitting I was wrong.

First off, I'm wary of AI. I understand it can be a great tool but as a creative type that's seen people use it to bypass practice and just get results it gives me the ick. That said someone here mentioned perchance so I tried it out... and I'm hooked. I've been using the "AI Story Generator" for the past few days - like, 12+ hours a day.

It reminds me when I first discovered newlife, specifically the wedding vows scene. I'd reload my save to get new vows and now I reload the last generated paragraph to shape the story I want. Sometimes the AI takes it somewhere I hadn't thought of and it's refreshing!

As Selaiko pointed above with their testing of AI bots this stuff can still be funky. It'll sometimes give me a basic reply (such as "what do you mean?" or other questions to get itself back on track), it loves to use "stark contrast" and other terms that you can't really weed out, and it can confuse itself though rare.

The good things I found were that it can retain info quite well and able to take prompts you input very nicely. Like if a scene drags on too long and the AI keeps the characters talking I can just type "she leaves" and it moves towards that instead. It'll also include details and words you give it (like my character has blonde hair and I asked it to give her pubes and she had blonde pubes).

That's why after it wrote 41K words I'm restarting the story with the knowledge I got from its writing style and tweaking it myself as I go. I've been writing the "NTR Route" I posted earlier in this thread and it's like... newlife with a fresh coat of paint.

Can games be made with this? As I said before: yeah, just need consistency. Someone would have to quality check. But I was wrong. I'm reading a story someone wasn't bothered to write - though editing it myself as I go. Recommend it for those that still replay the same ol' scenes of newlife.
 
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On the subject of using AI to write up scenes for games that people are putting recommendations for...

Personally I attempted to create two different AI "Sextbots" over at the .com of the same name as what I just quoted. More out of curiosity over how advanced the AI code was (after being ad-linked to the site) over any actual erotica desire since I am basically an Ace and porn / sexting doesn't really do anything for me other than as a mental exercise.

So, that site's AI premise of being able to create random scenes dynamically without manually coding it in was quite true. But before anyone rushes to use it to make a game, I am not sure I would recommend it for people to actually use to create logical scenes people would want to read in games. While capable of making very short porn scenes that would fit in most short story erotica collections... It's claims to memory and smart story telling is kind of a lie. I'm going to put the details into a spoiler for content that is not suitable for everyone, etc. but as a one paragraph summary if want to skip reading just accept that the Sextbots AI has the long term memory and cause/effect understanding of a hyperactive dog in "Play! Play! Play!" mode. Don't expect any Great Expectations there.

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Absolutely on point, "unbound" usage of AI generation, or stories being led by AI, are more like a dream sequence. An overarching idea made with some cohesion and zero attention to details(ergo count your fingers in a dream and find yourselves to be AI generated) and some very specific short scenes with singular idea/focus. Thats why just throwing AI into raw text window and calling it a game is (excuse me) stupidity of large proportions. AI is a tool like any other, a tool to be used for certain tasks. The rpg gen I use right now has many problems, not exclusive to it I'm sure. But it can be mended by user, a thinking mind who can set AI straight so to speak. In relation to actual games, I imagine it should be used as a way to shorten writing process for numerous variations of sex scenes and instead focus on mechanics and set naratives, available for the player. I can't help but gasp at the amount of sheer smut fenoxo have in their games, but it would not be so hard to match it with AI(no matter how good or bad it would turn out quality wise). It's also a solution for the promblem of repeated interactions. Sometimes doing things over and over again is a part of the game, but the scene that were wrote for them are...well, few or even in singular variety, which sucks in a long run. AI has a certain perk, it comes up with random shit. And if you can contain this randomness to shit that makes sense in a scene/in a story, then variety grows by quite a significant margin, thus feeling more lively. The "every day is the same, but diffrent" kind of feel. So AI led by either a thinking and active user, or a strong and smartly written script might just be a dream usage of this tool. It's not magic, just an approximation of infinite creativity.
 
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First off, I'm wary of AI. I understand it can be a great tool but as a creative type that's seen people use it to bypass practice and just get results it gives me the ick.
Preach. I hate it, the "SLOP" epidemic, people generating themselves out of having any fun, depth, meaning or a single thought for the story. Missusage is not suprising, but the extent of the damage is depressing. If the "dead internet" theory ever had a chance to be real, now is the time this can come to pass. No matter a tool or a toy, the agents of destruction will always be the humans who pulled the trigger.
I've been using the "AI Story Generator" for the past few days - like, 12+ hours a day.
Also I would advise you to chill, and maybe find some other opium for some variety, gosh even friends mayhaps. Kidding of course, but do take care of your mental.
That's why after it wrote 41K words I'm restarting the story with the knowledge I got from its writing style and tweaking it myself as I go.
Nice, I had few experiments, first was utter fail, with AI acting cartoonishly bad, with poor pace and wiriting itself in a corner kind of deal. Next is a nice fantasy story with Slaaanesh themed adventure, I did find constant smut lacking contrast and meaning.
Next is "living in a LA polycule" kind of a deal, less sex, more story and even though sometimes jarring and maddening with repeats/reitterations of the same thing(yes, I know she told you to be strong STOP SAYING IT) it felt more lively, plus it juggled 3 characters. Tried adding 4th and he became... Schrödinger's character. He came and went, blink and he will cease to exist.
Current one is an absolute pearl, holy balls, I was shocked by how AI could carry it. Maybe I underrestimated it after all this time. It is a story focused on abuse and trauma, mirroring the kind of story newlife can give you, but emotions and depression included. Several diffrent abusers(Boss, Landlord, guy at the bar) were consitent and adding a "saviour" aka just a normal dude with empathy(pff) made story outright brilliant. Still, AI can't read minds and it really likes "sudden escape" narrative, no matter how...unprompted it is. Still, standing up and angrely slapping the shit out of landlord meaning to non-con her was nice to see, as I wasn't planning for this direction, because it has consequences, yet I like it a lot.

More strength to you on using it for fun or meaningful writing and happy new year yall.
 

boobmanlord

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>Hating AI
I'm giving it a fair chance... and honestly I'm impressed. It's not like I'm gonna post what the AI has written - personal use only, though I understand the damage it has and can cause.

>mental health
No worries, I'm a well-adjusted member of society. I just have lots of free time lately so I would've spent it in a similar fashion. At least AI is fueling my imagination. Appreciate the concern!

>Stories you tried
Nice one for the third. If you let it run from the get-go it'll be shit. That's why my current story is slow pace so I can feed it more things to pick from. It also helps that I'm focusing on 3 characters so it doesn't need to keep track. Their personalities are pretty spot-on now that I've set them up! I wrote my fair share of smut in the past so now I know how the AI responds I can adjust with my second round. It's almost like having a brainstorm buddy to bounce ideas with. I'm having a blast!
 

Kakaririkoko

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As Selaiko pointed above with their testing of AI bots this stuff can still be funky. It'll sometimes give me a basic reply (such as "what do you mean?" or other questions to get itself back on track), it loves to use "stark contrast" and other terms that you can't really weed out, and it can confuse itself though rare.
The bot I use always uses "siren's song" like every 10 paragraphs. Its just a quirk of how these things are written unfortunately. If you cna ignore them, theyre pretty good for getting something quick without writing it all out yourself. Perchance has some good AI Erotica bots if you want to spread out a bit more and try other venues. Might be able to make up for the lack of significant Newlife updates.
 
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The bot I use always uses "siren's song" like every 10 paragraphs.
Oh boy, the AI Story Generator does too. I'm pretty good at spotting words that repeat too closely so I'll swap them out. It's a little tedious but at least I know the story isn't nugget paste. I'll have to try out the AI Erotica bots! Though as I said earlier I'm having a blast "writing" a story out. This format allows me to paint a clearer picture whereas newlife I would fill in the blanks with my imagination. A lot of my actions were "Do Nothing" cause I substituted it as a resist action when "Push Away" wasn't available.

The funny thing is I've only opened newlife so I can look at the clothing and give it to my AI character. I don't know what that symbolizes but damn.
 
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Oh boy, the AI Story Generator does too. I'm pretty good at spotting words that repeat too closely so I'll swap them out
Surely an frequent quirk. If you are using the AI gen I recomended, or similar one I can help with that. AI writes "summary's" every so often after you leave(or so I think). You can scroll up and see them, also you can edit them. I think bot mainly uses these summaries to generate next action. Thus editing them means editing memory of AI. You can see what words AI gets stuck on and Ctrl+F them in past summuries. Great chance you'll find lots of them. I had "USB" thing pop up constantly, don't know what that was about, edited it out of history, AI never mentioned it again. But to be sure I also edited most of text history as well.
The funny thing is I've only opened newlife so I can look at the clothing and give it to my AI character. I don't know what that symbolizes but damn.
Literally me. Newlife taught me to recognize and name female clothing, lol. A point of pride if you ask me.
 

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It's already bad enough that people are farming out artwork to AI. Now they're having the bots do the writing too?
 
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It's already bad enough that people are farming out artwork to AI. Now they're having the bots do the writing too?
It's what AI is best at. The whole purpose of LLMs is to generate text. Unlike with artwork there's not many amateur erotica writers who would have been making money off these games anyways. And unlike AI art, games that connect to LLMs can generate basically infinite content.
 

Kakaririkoko

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It's already bad enough that people are farming out artwork to AI. Now they're having the bots do the writing too?
Its harder to get off to something you yourself made, be it a drawn picture or a written story. The imagination works fine of course, but sometimes you want something that you didn't have a hand in making, something where you don't just come up with everyone's actions and reactions. AI works great for that, you provide a quick example of what you want and it'll come up with a fapfic for it. Is it better than what a human, or you yourself could do? No, but it's something fast and has a surprising amount of versatility, almost like ERPing. It's really great, especially if you have a niche fetish that basically no one ever makes content for, or wants to participate in for ERP purposes.
 
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It's already bad enough that people are farming out artwork to AI. Now they're having the bots do the writing too?
Its harder to get off to something you yourself made, be it a drawn picture or a written story. The imagination works fine of course, but sometimes you want something that you didn't have a hand in making, something where you don't just come up with everyone's actions and reactions. AI works great for that, you provide a quick example of what you want and it'll come up with a fapfic for it. Is it better than what a human, or you yourself could do? No, but it's something fast and has a surprising amount of versatility, almost like ERPing. It's really great, especially if you have a niche fetish that basically no one ever makes content for, or wants to participate in for ERP purposes.
It's what AI is best at. The whole purpose of LLMs is to generate text. Unlike with artwork there's not many amateur erotica writers who would have been making money off these games anyways. And unlike AI art, games that connect to LLMs can generate basically infinite content.
I agree with the responces, the topic is nuanced. Tbh the "AI books" are sold in amazon for some time already, tech firms LOVE pushing AI writing your emails thing into everyone faces, people did essays with chat GPT for years. You might be late on the hate train.
My overall take is this - ArtGens are okay for personal use, but should not be relied upon in anything but amateur/early development. AI "art" should not be trained on artists who did not specifically consent to it. LLM's are fine when people don't try to replace human interactions with them. LLM's use should not be allowed for botting, especially on social media(but that might be impossible).
Any content made/written by AI should be clearly marked as such, be it in stores, on social media, forums, email etc.
For example in AI art, I've been contributing to one of the nsfw game's portrait variety, namely Corrupted saviours. Developer likes that community creates more portrait packs, as he can focus on the mechanics rather than graphics of text-only game. You can dm me and I'll throw you a link.
 
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boobmanlord

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Its harder to get off to something you yourself made, be it a drawn picture or a written story. The imagination works fine of course, but sometimes you want something that you didn't have a hand in making, something where you don't just come up with everyone's actions and reactions. AI works great for that, you provide a quick example of what you want and it'll come up with a fapfic for it. Is it better than what a human, or you yourself could do? No, but it's something fast and has a surprising amount of versatility, almost like ERPing. It's really great, especially if you have a niche fetish that basically no one ever makes content for, or wants to participate in for ERP purposes.
100% agree with this. I don't condone using AI to make money and all the moral baggage it comes with but I'm enjoying giving it prompts and letting it write a story for my personal use. I've been playing Newlife for years and we all kept saying there's no game quite like Newlife. This won't replace it but it scratches that itch if you lead it towards those scenarios the game has.

Sorry to folks that dislike AI seeing this thread turn into this but what else is there to talk about? We spend a day judging the weak changelog and then wait for a month or two for the next.
 

Melphy

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Truly a life cycle of newlife enjoyer: See update - get angry - wait - see update, repeat ad infinitum.
Oof, truth. I really wish there were more mini-character-arc things, like the impregnator stories, or the nice guy's bad friend, etc. that gave you a special engagement to aim for.

... Frankly, I'd settle for even a way to get variants of the Impregnator scenes if you're playing a nice/non-baby crazy thing because cutting off access to one of the handful of unique interactions if you don't take one of two traits kinda sucks. A bit more bespoke content to help fill out what's already there would, I think, enrich the game more for me than more skeletal systems.

Though I'm likely preaching to the choir around here.
 
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