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That's certainly one way to react...
Wow, many thanks to KrystalTheFox for pointing us to Perchance AI. I've been messing around with the AI RPG Text Adventure thingy, and I am blown away by the writing and how depraved it can get. I have been struggling to learn to code in order to write a text based porn game, but now i can relax and forget it. The AI can almost equal me in creative writing and can offer a far wider selection of scenarios than any game, certainly any game within my limited powers to produce. Once you get to grips with how the AI "thinks", it becomes a delight to guide it to where you want to go and then let it do its thing.
As others have said, consistency can be a little hit and miss and the AI can develop an obsession with certain things, for example in one story I was trying to develop a romantic relationship while the AI seemed determined to bring other partners into the play, despite my scenario not indicating any preference for group sex. I thought I was kinky, but it seems my imagination has nothing on an artificial imagination!
It feels like the dawn of AI sex games, perfectly tailored to individual likes and dislikes. The era of humans is passing, all hail our new AI overlords!
As others have said, consistency can be a little hit and miss and the AI can develop an obsession with certain things, for example in one story I was trying to develop a romantic relationship while the AI seemed determined to bring other partners into the play, despite my scenario not indicating any preference for group sex. I thought I was kinky, but it seems my imagination has nothing on an artificial imagination!
It feels like the dawn of AI sex games, perfectly tailored to individual likes and dislikes. The era of humans is passing, all hail our new AI overlords!
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Oh and that's certanly another way to react. That's it I hit bingo. Watch me, in this thread there is: a casual long time AI user, the one who tinkers with AI bots, AI hater, newly addicted AI user and finally AI normie who is ambivalent to the product. Bingo!
Get with the new AI thang, or die of old age waiting for SO to produce some new and exciting content. Your choice!
On a more serious note, the AI responds well to careful prompting. Give it an hour or two and it will surprise you with its capabilities.
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Actually guys, there's a curious question I've been wondering. Since the story creation in AI gens are fully in your hands, whose perpective you take during a story, aka who is the main character - a girl or a dude or both or neither! I do find myself putting female OC into the spotlight folowing her downfall at the hands of others.
I've tried both male and female, as well as trying being a trans girl. The AI coped admirably with all of them. I've been playing Second Life for years, and based on that I'd say that the Perchance AI can do a far better imitation of a human writing erotically than about 95% of humans can do!
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Ooof, yep. I did try the fox's gen, but keeep returning to my own. Right now going for Being a DiK kind of story with some light basic omegaverse logic added to keep things extra. Made a very sharp tongued girl and AI answers ridiculously well to being outquipped and made fun of. In all my Erp experience this is the most fun and comfortable way, without waiting and without hoping to find someone who isn't illiterate "I'm your master now suck my dick" kind of person.
Still original works of smut help to ground and make the basis for any extra AI generation.
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"fox's gen"? "DiK"? "omegaverse"? "Erp"? I am sadly not down wit' da yoof, so pleeeease speeeeak Eeeengliiiish
But yeah, the way the AI builds believable characters from just a short description (or even pulls them out of thin air without human prompting) is seriously impressive. Tell it someone is shy or sassy, a gentleman or an asshat, and it almost builds a believable person for you. It even forms relationships between NPCs.
Human creators can't win this one, which i find a little concerning. Pretty soon we won't be able to tell what is AI and what is not. Still, as long as we have porn games I'll be okay. Shallow is my middle name!
But yeah, the way the AI builds believable characters from just a short description (or even pulls them out of thin air without human prompting) is seriously impressive. Tell it someone is shy or sassy, a gentleman or an asshat, and it almost builds a believable person for you. It even forms relationships between NPCs.
Human creators can't win this one, which i find a little concerning. Pretty soon we won't be able to tell what is AI and what is not. Still, as long as we have porn games I'll be okay. Shallow is my middle name!
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Oh sorry, got lost in the sauce, as they say. I meant I tried this story generator, but prefer the one I mentioned earlier in my posts."fox's gen"? "DiK"? "omegaverse"? "Erp"? I am sadly not down wit' da yoof, so pleeeease speeeeak Eeeengliiiish
Being A DIK is a quite popular porn game, tbh the best 3dcg game ever, about college life and sex! If newlife was developed for as long as it has been out, I'm sure some college related content could've been added.
Omegaverse is a weird fanfiction/smut books genre. It is a lot of things, but the main concept is there are the alphas who fuck and...I think betas who get fucked. And it's like a biological trait. Forced hierarchy, that made cringey by the absurd amount of low level smut this topic has birthed.
ERP, erotic role play, or to be more precise it would be erotic text role play in my case. Don't judge me, we've all been twelve or smthing
Also don't agree. I certainly enjoy this as a toy, and a way to flex my writing and imagination muscules, but the "books" it produces are trash. As is everything so far seen. I'm think the fate of AI in art is being a bottom feeder of some weird tic toc book clubs and unknowing boomers on social media...and amature media creations in niche social circles. The famous art will be continued to be created by humans, even if now wielding ai tools in their arsenal...which many already did, regarding art crowd. And if I'll eat my words, please bring some ketchup
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Not here to judge anyone, I have already admitted to being a perv
What I like about Newlife is the sex engine, the choices and responses it gives. If you want that in a college setting, then I highly recommend Course of Temptation,
On the whole I find Newlife too limiting, other games have long since overtaken it. But the Perchance AI seems able to write smut on the fly and does it well, which means the end for games like Newlife. They also have AI images, though unless you like amputees or guys with two dicks they don't work perfectly quite yet! They will get there though, and worryingly soon.
What I like about Newlife is the sex engine, the choices and responses it gives. If you want that in a college setting, then I highly recommend Course of Temptation,
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which has a sex engine far more ambitious than Newlife, but of course that brings inconsistencies too. It's like Degrees of Lewdity but not so insane.On the whole I find Newlife too limiting, other games have long since overtaken it. But the Perchance AI seems able to write smut on the fly and does it well, which means the end for games like Newlife. They also have AI images, though unless you like amputees or guys with two dicks they don't work perfectly quite yet! They will get there though, and worryingly soon.
I hope you're right, but as we have seen art and poetry critics tricked by paintings by monkeys or randomly chosen words already, excuse me for being pessimistic!
Of course we should bear in mind that everything the AI learns comes from us, humans. You are quite right that the greatest creators will always be human - but bear in mind that our own beloved SO is far from a da Vinci but still makes a tidy sum every month! Polymaths, or whatever they are called, will still lead in creativity. But AI is always learning from them, and all those making a living from being journeymen will have to find a proper job
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To be fair, you do have to hold its hand a bit and i found myself editing a lot of its work when I thought it was getting repetitive/incoherent but as somebody who enjoys writing and editing I don't mind that at all. If you don't like writing then it probably isn't for you.
I did a pretty freaky scenario about a girl trying to not get raped by horny alien monsters that have invaded her town. Now I'm using it to make a story about a couple whose camping trip goes horribly, erotically wrong. As for the prompts themselves I mainly entered stuff that I thought would be logical action for the character I was using which the AI did a pretty good job of staying true to although there were times when it seemed incapable of comprehending something so I had to manually write new lines (not a big deal for me).
In the immediate future sure and I do not think AI will ever be able to fully replace human creators without achieving AGI but I can see more and more artists using it in the future as a supplementary tool that can expedite the creative process (with the human reviewing the AI's product, tweaking editing or even discarding it as necessary) kind of like how modern workers use power tools to increase their productivity.
Fem POV, just my personal preference but I usually find female characters to be more interesting than male ones.
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Kinky, enjoyer of tentacular goodness, good sir? Okay, but yeah, I think the biggest impact on the quality comes from the initial post, the starter. The more defined world you make, the more things AI can pull from. And usually if I have vague idea about what I want, AI ain't gonna make a good long term story. From that point onward the story writes itself...of a cliff if you don't steer it where you want. AI can and will write dialogue and actions for all characters, but in turn you yourself can chime as one or the other character, but of course steering you POV is the most interesting, as her choices you choose for her embody the rpg nature of it.
Oh and pray tell me about this disasterous trip...hm maybe a separate thread to share a starter prompts would not be such a bad idea.
Iiii... Don't presently, I've actually been setting up AI personalities, multi adding them to the chat (options -> Add character for those who don't know), and more taking the role of director. It can handle some pretty... Stereotypical scenes with this, or, with a lot more interference and tweaking, manage somewhat more intricate scenes, though if you add more than 2 characters to a chat you will sometimes have to remind character B that they do not have the traits of character C.
Also if you need to put reminders for "you are like X" or "you are not like X" for specific characters the /lore command is moderately effective, if imperfect.
The one thing that presently drives me nuts is that it's very bad at anything that has to like, progress by degrees. If you want to be (or see someone) mind controlled or hypnotized or w/e (and you might, New Life does have hypnosis scenes, after all) it tends to go from 0-100 in like one or two posts tops, and as someone who likes stories about seduction and corruption and w/e, the "No I'm not" -> "yes I am" switch is super irritating.
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It's one of those things where the more you use it, the more the magic fades. Before you know it you're just an editor for the AI.
Go back and read something a week later and it'll be ass. I guarantee it.
so ignoring the various reasons to not do anything with ai so as to not start more arguments than necessary and taking these ai storymaker tools at face value. they can go in some pretty wild directions but it's not good for anything long form. It can end up trying to go in a direction you don't want, randomly get into loops or get very redundant. It doesn't actually keep track of any information and will randomly bring back elements and that only worsens the longer a thing goes on.
pretty much with unocrus. you can probably overlook some of the errors and weirdness but it'd be insulting to pass it on to anyone else like it's something worth reading. sure you can tweak it but that kills the purpose
to get this back to newlife the tools probably could only do some shorter one textbox long events with enough quality and even then it wont do anything about the programming which is the main barrier to entry rather than coming up with the text for an event yourself
pretty much with unocrus. you can probably overlook some of the errors and weirdness but it'd be insulting to pass it on to anyone else like it's something worth reading. sure you can tweak it but that kills the purpose
to get this back to newlife the tools probably could only do some shorter one textbox long events with enough quality and even then it wont do anything about the programming which is the main barrier to entry rather than coming up with the text for an event yourself
I am a newbie AI-cat herder but I have been having some fun with that AI site too, it is quite interesting what you can do with giving the AI "writing instructions" that it has to follow while writing. One thing I noticed the AI sometimes struggle with is that it loses track of WHERE characters are, you can be exploring a dungeon and fighting something then suddenly the AI is like "You cleave the zombie in half, sword slashes deep into the sandy beach as the waves push and pull in a endless motion" and just like that you are at the beach instead.
But if you instruct it to add the location to what it is writing when a character act or talk it will, generally, do a good job of adding it to the text and that way keep itself updated and reminded of where people are. Even to the point that you can have more than one "scene" happening at the same time in different places because it keeps reminding itself that character 1 is shopping in the city while character 2 is at the beach slaying zombies.
Another benefit is that when you have the above 'mostly working' it is easy to add additional rules to it for example that only characters that are in the same location can interact with each other to (mostly)stop characters from shaking hands from 3 rooms away and you can even tell the AI that it has to write how characters move between locations.
I really recommend people to try and think of "mechanics" that you want the AI to work with because odds are it CAN actually do it, if you can explain what you want it to do ofc which can sometimes feel like herding cats.
If the AI seems to be ignoring you I found adding something like "this must be respected and reflected in the writing." in/after whatever rule you are making gets the AI to notice/associate it with "the writing" so it actually does it.
Ah I figure I might as well share my current location instructions, keep in mind this could surely be simplified and made much better than this, currently trying to get the AI to consistently add it to text it generates from my own prompts but it works quite well with its own generation. If it starts writing the location tag in a weird way just edit the text and it goes back on track again.. and by writing it weirdly I mean if it puts "**Forest**" in the middle of the text when it is mentioning the forest, remove the ** and write "**Forest CharacterName**: " at the start of the text(if the scene is taking place in the forest ofc).
But if you instruct it to add the location to what it is writing when a character act or talk it will, generally, do a good job of adding it to the text and that way keep itself updated and reminded of where people are. Even to the point that you can have more than one "scene" happening at the same time in different places because it keeps reminding itself that character 1 is shopping in the city while character 2 is at the beach slaying zombies.
Another benefit is that when you have the above 'mostly working' it is easy to add additional rules to it for example that only characters that are in the same location can interact with each other to (mostly)stop characters from shaking hands from 3 rooms away and you can even tell the AI that it has to write how characters move between locations.
I really recommend people to try and think of "mechanics" that you want the AI to work with because odds are it CAN actually do it, if you can explain what you want it to do ofc which can sometimes feel like herding cats.
If the AI seems to be ignoring you I found adding something like "this must be respected and reflected in the writing." in/after whatever rule you are making gets the AI to notice/associate it with "the writing" so it actually does it.
Ah I figure I might as well share my current location instructions, keep in mind this could surely be simplified and made much better than this, currently trying to get the AI to consistently add it to text it generates from my own prompts but it works quite well with its own generation. If it starts writing the location tag in a weird way just edit the text and it goes back on track again.. and by writing it weirdly I mean if it puts "**Forest**" in the middle of the text when it is mentioning the forest, remove the ** and write "**Forest CharacterName**: " at the start of the text(if the scene is taking place in the forest ofc).
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Diffrent models might have diffrent problems, never had location as one of the issues, or rather my main character and their location is set, but AI might put some other known character into the scene, but most of the times it introduces theem to the scene first.
And that's mostly right. These storytellers as they are(like many AI features introduced nowadays) closer to toys than usefull tools of significant value. Novel level story I'm pretty sure is impossible, even with some ungodly interventions. But generally AI does keep track of SOME information. Not all, not perfectly, but depending on the model and settings, it does remember "latest" stuff, especially if it's a reoccuring element. Generally neutral about it, love playing with fun toys, but what it will turn into only time may tell.