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creyden

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Solid start IMO. For your first release, good job. I like the girls, especially Georgia. Models and proportions are great. Can't really comment on the story and such as there's not much so far. But I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for this one and am looking forward to more updates. Good luck.
 

BallerTime

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He isn't perving - he saw somebody all over his car and came to investigate then asked to send some pictures from the shoot - she told him they've been doing shoots she hasn't indicated to him they are private. The only thing he shouldn't have done is taken her phone to look.

The good thing about games is they are not real life so you can enjoy an adventure in a different set of shoes.

As to perv on girls you like... you do get the irony here right? The reason you can see any of these women is because somebody (I) am sharing them with you.
This response seems like a bit of red flag for me.

First, once you see that someone is almost naked, you do not walk around to their side of the car and keep staring at them after they ducked behind the car specifically to hide their body from you. That is a clear indication of removal of consent. You allow them to put some clothes on or at least cover themselves with something first.

Next, you do not take someone's phone without their permission. Period. There was no ambiguity. It was being held in an "I'm holding this so you can see" manner and not "I'm handing this phone to you."

You do not then compound this offense by swiping through their pictures without permission, even if you are told the one they chose to show you was from a photoshoot. You don't know whether there were any private images from that session and, even if you did somehow know that, you don't know where that group of photos begins and ends in the pictures on their phone and could at any moment find yourself in their personal photos.

You do not, upon seeing their nudes while doing this, keep going; you realize your error, give their phone back, and apologize.

Finally, you do not demand that they continue sending you more nude pictures when you have them in a compromising situation.

The MC is kind of a moron in this scene too, which doesn't help matters.

As for the "the good thing about games is they are not real life so you can enjoy an adventure in a different set of shoes" comment, you need to understand that porn games work a bit differently than non-porn games in that respect. They deal much more closely with hard-wired arousal and disgust mechanisms. On top of that, they try to create an parasocial connection between the player and the love interest. Typically, they also allow the player some measure of control over the experience, which serves both to allow the game to reach a wider audience by letting the player make it align more closely to their kinks and also enhance the connection between the player and the player character.

This can be seen as a strength of the medium, but it cuts both ways. Much moreso than non-porn games, you need to be into what's happening in a porn game at least a little bit for it to be an enjoyable experience. The better a connection you create between the player, the MC and the love interest... the stronger the negative reaction to encountering a turn-off will be. That's why people emphasize proper tagging so much in porn games (and why F95Zone needs a better tagging system but that's a topic for another time).

Regarding irony, I don't see it. You are not "sharing women" with anyone. What I do see is you creating a fictional story as a product for other people to consume, trying to ideally make a bit of money in the process, and getting indignant that some people's kinks don't quite align with yours when being exposed to them with insufficient warning and no means of avoidance.
 
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bamachine

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This response seems like a bit of red flag for me.

First, once you see that someone is almost naked, you do not walk around to their side of the car and keep staring at them after they ducked behind the car specifically to hide their body from you. That is a clear indication of removal of consent. You allow them to put some clothes on or at least cover themselves with something first.

Next, you do not take someone's phone without their permission. Period. There was no ambiguity. It was being held in an "I'm holding this so you can see" manner and not "I'm handing this phone to you."

You do not then compound this offense by swiping through their pictures without permission, even if you are told the one they chose to show you was from a photoshoot. You don't know whether there were any private images from that session and, even if you did somehow know that, you don't know where that group of photos begins and ends in the pictures on their phone and could at any moment find yourself in their personal photos.

You do not, upon seeing their nudes while doing this, keep going; you realize your error, give their phone back, and apologize.

Finally, you do not demand that they continue sending you more nude pictures when you have them in a compromising situation.

The MC is kind of a moron in this scene too, which doesn't help matters.

As for the "the good thing about games is they are not real life so you can enjoy an adventure in a different set of shoes" comment, you need to understand that porn games work a bit differently than non-porn games in that respect. They deal much more closely with hard-wired arousal and disgust mechanisms. On top of that, they try to create an parasocial connection between the player and the love interest. Typically, they also allow the player some measure of control over the experience, which serves both to allow the game to reach a wider audience by letting the player make it align more closely to their kinks and also enhance the connection between the player and the player character.

This can be seen as a strength of the medium, but it cuts both ways. Much moreso than non-porn games, you need to be into what's happening in a porn game at least a little bit for it to be an enjoyable experience. The better a connection you create between the player, the MC and the love interest... the stronger the negative reaction to encountering a turn-off will be. That's why people emphasize proper tagging so much in porn games (and why F95Zone needs a better tagging system but that's a topic for another time).

Regarding irony, I don't see it. You are not "sharing women" with anyone. What I do see is you creating a fictional story as a product for other people to consume, trying to ideally make a bit of money in the process, and getting indignant that some people's kinks don't quite align with yours when being exposed to them with insufficient warning and no means of avoidance.
While I agree with most everything you said in principle(I am 100% all about consent), it is nigh on impossible to find a game on here that won't have something that goes against at least one, if not many of your preferences, be what they may. I am against non-con period but the scene with Mr Edwards is a banana pepper on the Scoville scale of pissing me off, especially compared to the absolute glut of blackmail and/or rape content found on F95. I am not really into incest either, so once you remove all the blackmail, rape, incest, terrible writing, bad translations, nonsensical storytelling, ridiculous size genitalia, that leaves me personally with about 10 games worth a damn on this site, for my personal preferences. Even in those 10, there will be some things that don't fit my kinks. FWIW, to me non-con is not a kink, it is a crime, except maybe in roleplay situations, never otherwise. So I am willing to overlook Mr Edwards, as long as he never drifts into blackmail and/or non-con touching of Georgia, as long as she does not have a problem with it.
 

Shinita

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Regarding irony, I don't see it. You are not "sharing women" with anyone. What I do see is you creating a fictional story as a product for other people to consume, trying to ideally make a bit of money in the process, and getting indignant that some people's kinks don't quite align with yours when being exposed to them with insufficient warning and no means of avoidance.
Creating a game is a very intimate form of sharing. Crafting what I think are beautiful women (multiple attacks), trying to give them back story (bland despite no chance to flesh out yet), while trying to write a story that provides for some arousal (too short, too boring, too predictable). A lot of this isn't just pulled from thin air but comes from experiences which make it a lot more personal than people think when they're providing "feedback".

I'm not here trying to "make a bit of money in the process". I don't have a Patreon, a Subscribestar or a coffee fund. I put a BTC address without even mentioning the word "donate" anywhere at all. I truly expect it will come to $0 and the address will be gone by 0.2. The only thing I've got back from this is a lot of positive feedback. That's it. Then some like yours wipe out a lot of that.

I'm sorry you felt somehow upset or jolted by this game. I'm not sure what tag or guide would have saved you here - it was tagged exhibitionism. If you'd like to suggest another tag I might add it.

At the end of the day though it is my game, my story and my characters. I have some ideas where I want to go with it and what may come. I might listen to ideas and tweak things as I go on but I'm not here to answer to anyone else's demands about what it should be.

That said if you want to make a game of your own perfectly tailored to you I'd be more than happy to provide DAZ and RenPy advice where I can.
 

Bolero

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Seems interesting, there is one thing i would like to be different though. The renders. They are very grainy. I do not know if it was intentional, because the renders do look good, they are well detailed, if only the images were not so grainy, little bit sharper would be better imo. Usually i would skip games with grainy images, but this one looks interesting. Anyway good luck with the game.
 

JohnF95zone

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Oct 31, 2017
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This response seems like a bit of red flag for me.

First, once you see that someone is almost naked, you do not walk around to their side of the car and keep staring at them after they ducked behind the car specifically to hide their body from you. That is a clear indication of removal of consent. You allow them to put some clothes on or at least cover themselves with something first.

Next, you do not take someone's phone without their permission. Period. There was no ambiguity. It was being held in an "I'm holding this so you can see" manner and not "I'm handing this phone to you."

You do not then compound this offense by swiping through their pictures without permission, even if you are told the one they chose to show you was from a photoshoot. You don't know whether there were any private images from that session and, even if you did somehow know that, you don't know where that group of photos begins and ends in the pictures on their phone and could at any moment find yourself in their personal photos.

You do not, upon seeing their nudes while doing this, keep going; you realize your error, give their phone back, and apologize.

Finally, you do not demand that they continue sending you more nude pictures when you have them in a compromising situation.

The MC is kind of a moron in this scene too, which doesn't help matters.
You are projecting or enforcing some kind of behavior or reactions or actions that the MC and NPCs should and should NOT do. In a game with fictional characters, anything can happen. In real life also there are a lot of people who breaks the law, being a jerk, disrespectful etc. I would think that the consent is related to sexual intercourse mainly i.e. no forced intercoursed, blackmail, drugged or the likes, but you seems to apply the consent to much broader context:unsure:. So, this game probably is not for you then. The way I see it (the garage scene), Gloria takes off her clothes in public place basically she is giving consent for the public to see her almost naked body. Gloria could have objected and took back the phone forcefully from Edward but for some unknown reason she did not, which in some custom implied consent. But then yeah you can go on and on just about everything but remember that this is a fictional story (although based off some reality).

As for the "the good thing about games is they are not real life so you can enjoy an adventure in a different set of shoes" comment, you need to understand that porn games work a bit differently than non-porn games in that respect. They deal much more closely with hard-wired arousal and disgust mechanisms. On top of that, they try to create an parasocial connection between the player and the love interest. Typically, they also allow the player some measure of control over the experience, which serves both to allow the game to reach a wider audience by letting the player make it align more closely to their kinks and also enhance the connection between the player and the player character.
I have no idea why you think that everyone plays games (normal or porn) according to how you play or what you described above. Most people just play games to pass time or even for laugh but certainly to just enjoy it. The stuff about parasocial connection or whatever, that's your thing, dude.

This can be seen as a strength of the medium, but it cuts both ways. Much moreso than non-porn games, you need to be into what's happening in a porn game at least a little bit for it to be an enjoyable experience. The better a connection you create between the player, the MC and the love interest... the stronger the negative reaction to encountering a turn-off will be. That's why people emphasize proper tagging so much in porn games (and why F95Zone needs a better tagging system but that's a topic for another time).
Again, similar to above. You are somehow generalizing that everyone play games (porn games especially) according to some rule or proper way to play. I for once don't even care for the single most problematic feature of this site, the tag other than constantly being disturbed by those who lived by it.

In the end, you are playing (if you choose to) a game made by someone else and is not made specifically according to your specifications, so who should adapt? You or the game developer? So what if the developer wants to add prostitution to the game for example, you don't like it, then stop playing it. If you are a supporter or sponsor, then stop supporting. No one force you to support it in the first place, that is your mistake and your problem :ROFLMAO:. By the way, the developer does not have any support platform set up, and the game is totally free of charge, and the game was made as a hobby sort of. The developer is kind and nice enough to share the game in the first place, for free.

If you somehow want to be a business developtment consultant to the game developer about creating the perfect, highly marketable and profitable porn game ever created, then you should just contacted the developer directly for business enquiry. I doubt that the developer who is doing it for a hobby will be interested but who knows, maybe your business acumen and plan can change that. Cheers.
 

Shinita

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Seems interesting, there is one thing i would like to be different though. The renders. They are very grainy. I do not know if it was intentional, because the renders do look good, they are well detailed, if only the images were not so grainy, little bit sharper would be better imo. Usually i would skip games with grainy images, but this one looks interesting. Anyway good luck with the game.
The early arrival stuff I had some settings set wrong which I didn't realize. I'm gradually going through them and re-rendering the worst of them. Hopefully you should have seen it improve as the game went along.
 

Shinita

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Great renders, love that they're not your typical big boobs. Story might be progressing a bit too quick for me, but not too bothersome about that.
The other women will be a little slower to progress. Partly because you had an existing "relationship" with Georgia, partly because who want a 0.1 with no sexual content.
 

Jimmy Stone

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It was a very good look in this first version... the setting with this "smaller" boobs is great, cause the size of the girls breast is more and more a growing thing in the most games here. Here its more realistic and nice to go to an normal and natuaral size and not this bigger and bigger thing. The story is nice, maybe a little bit fast from "see me naked" to "cum on me".... i like this version and iam waiting for more stuff in the future. Great Job !! :D
 
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Moonkee

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Great renders, love that they're not your typical big boobs. Story might be progressing a bit too quick for me, but not too bothersome about that.

Would be nice to see the gallery in a phone app or something, where the galleries per girl would expand the further you would get into the game

Anyhow. Great start, hope to see way more where this came from
I second the great renders comment!! Love it so far!
 
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goulet1995

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based on reading coments i think i will wait for another update or two before playing based on the coments the scene with Mr Edwards wouldnt bother me much its a little bit of a red flag that its in the very first release the best option seems to be to let the direction of the game to develop.
 

Cr8tive M3dia

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Hey Shinita, a good start, well done. I know how time consuming creating a game can be.. I to am still learning all the time with Daz and coding and it takes a awful long time to get to a position where you can get a game out, so keep going and great start.

Should you still have your renders in .png form, I do have a denoiser program that you can use, that wipes all grainy looking images within like a second and tidied them up, I would be more than willing to let you have it for use in the future or for the ones you have done so far.


There were a few little things here and there, where the name you inputted would suddenly change within the text to "Connor" so maybe just search the name Connor in your script and change that to the "player_name" variable you have listed down for the character. Unless this has been changed when you did the update, if so please ignore this.

Great work though.. keep it up :)
 

Shinita

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Hey Shinita, a good start, well done. I know how time consuming creating a game can be.. I to am still learning all the time with Daz and coding and it takes a awful long time to get to a position where you can get a game out, so keep going and great start.
Thanks!

Should you still have your renders in .png form, I do have a denoiser program that you can use, that wipes all grainy looking images within like a second and tidied them up, I would be more than willing to let you have it for use in the future or for the ones you have done so far.
I do! Which denoiser program do you recommend? The denoising in DAZ is... not great.

The name issues were indeed fixed in 0.1b.
 

Hellster

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A few devs I spoke to recommended this denoiser.

You can either edit the file path, or just drag and drop the images.
denoiser.png
Sorry it's on an upload site, but it was too big to attach here.
 

johnyboi77

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Keep up the great work. I quit creative work (stories) for a long time because the negative feedback eats away at you. Ignore it, there will always be people complaining that you need to create for them. They are wrong, you create for you and if it connects with another person great. If not they can continue to look for something that speaks to them. I will be following you and your game.
 

Elucidus

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It would be great that in addition to ability to change the names - the player would have ability to change characters ages. With 18 being default value, of course. There is nothing wrong to give players more freedom of choice, right? ) And name of their educational facility can be made customizable. Of course for that to work properly - all of this variables should be used in the game and mentioned in the plot - else there is no sense to implement them.
 

JohnF95zone

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It would be great that in addition to ability to change the names - the player would have ability to change characters ages. With 18 being default value, of course. There is nothing wrong to give players more freedom of choice, right? ) And name of their educational facility can be made customizable. Of course for that to work properly - all of this variables should be used in the game and mentioned in the plot - else there is no sense to implement them.
Or, you can do it yourself. Even better make a mod then others can benefit too. I am against (or not supportive) of the idea adding a core feature to a game that only some (very few) will use or benefit, mod is the better choice for that. I didn't even change any default name of the characters. Adding a feature might introduce bugs (down the line most likely) and requires additional testing. The developer already has his/her plate full based on the overflowing feedbacks so far. Just my 2 cents. Cheers.
 

Hellster

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Or, you can do it yourself. Even better make a mod then others can benefit too. I am against (or not supportive) of the idea adding a core feature to a game that only some (very few) will use or benefit, mod is the better choice for that. I didn't even change any default name of the characters. Adding a feature might introduce bugs (down the line most likely) and requires additional testing. The developer already has his/her plate full based on the overflowing feedbacks so far. Just my 2 cents. Cheers.
Yep, and if it requires those variables etc to be added as persistent, means starting a new game every time changes like that are made
 
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