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are you talking about the v17-v.mp4 file in the thumbnail? It's just a preview of an animation
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Okay so if you're focusing on the NTR route first (I mean, the title literally has NTR in it) and it's all phone-based, then I can suggest you follow some of these advices to make a great game:
1) Every update should have something 'spicy' in it such as a sex scene. Don't go the path that other bad developers would take months and months and months of 'useless' updates to 'build-up story' for a sex scene to happen. Just no. Believe it or not, you're going to lose subscribers FAST. And I'm telling you that I've seen this shit happen over and over with all these new porn game developers trying to take a very long time for a sex scene to happen.
So when you're going to make an update, then make it full of content, especially since you're using AI. I'm not saying it's 'easy work', but compared to other developers who had to hand-draw or animate their own art, you're having it easier. So you have little to no excuses to make an update that has nothing in it. By nothing, I mean those 'build-up story' updates.
Yes, we don't want sex to be rushed quickly. BUT, you can implement a lot of story-telling in an update and still put a sex scene in it. Whether it's groping, blowjob, eating pussy, fingering, SOMETHING. You need a scene.
2) Always include the female's perspective. This is an obvious one. But I'm already tired of the 'I'll ask someone to download a hacking app for me to look at her phone' strategy.
Fuck that.
It's better if you just include the perspective of the female on what she's been doing with her affairs, her texting and sending pics from her own perspective and not from some hacking app perspective.
Plus, the male protagonist having no idea of what his girlfriend is doing on her phone because he never downloaded any hacking app. This makes it EXTREMELY GOOD. Trust me. The whole 'mystery' feeling is a huge aspect for NTR lovers. Just easily downloading some stupid hacking app entirely kills the mystery feeling.
1) Every update should have something 'spicy' in it such as a sex scene. Don't go the path that other bad developers would take months and months and months of 'useless' updates to 'build-up story' for a sex scene to happen. Just no. Believe it or not, you're going to lose subscribers FAST. And I'm telling you that I've seen this shit happen over and over with all these new porn game developers trying to take a very long time for a sex scene to happen.
So when you're going to make an update, then make it full of content, especially since you're using AI. I'm not saying it's 'easy work', but compared to other developers who had to hand-draw or animate their own art, you're having it easier. So you have little to no excuses to make an update that has nothing in it. By nothing, I mean those 'build-up story' updates.
Yes, we don't want sex to be rushed quickly. BUT, you can implement a lot of story-telling in an update and still put a sex scene in it. Whether it's groping, blowjob, eating pussy, fingering, SOMETHING. You need a scene.
2) Always include the female's perspective. This is an obvious one. But I'm already tired of the 'I'll ask someone to download a hacking app for me to look at her phone' strategy.
Fuck that.
It's better if you just include the perspective of the female on what she's been doing with her affairs, her texting and sending pics from her own perspective and not from some hacking app perspective.
Plus, the male protagonist having no idea of what his girlfriend is doing on her phone because he never downloaded any hacking app. This makes it EXTREMELY GOOD. Trust me. The whole 'mystery' feeling is a huge aspect for NTR lovers. Just easily downloading some stupid hacking app entirely kills the mystery feeling.
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Thanks for the advice! I'll try to keep that in mind when updating.
But I do have a question on your second suggestion. How are you envisioning the game to look like if we are able to view from the female perspective? Like a simple toggle that flips from the player's perspective to the female's perspective? Like visually is there any difference between your suggestion and a hacking app strategy besides the player's knowledge? I do think it's a great idea. Just not sure if I can pull it off.
Since this is a phone game, you could have visually 2 different phones, with different backgrounds and styles, so it's easy to distinguish between the MC and FMC perspectives
And if you plan on an episodic approach, you could have each episode presented from one perspective, so the switching happens less often
In fact, I think it could be cool to see events happen from FMC's perspective, then have the next episode replay the same time, but this time from the MC's perspective
It doesn't mean that each episode has to be an update, or anything like that
Each update could consist of a mix of a few small episodes from each perspective, depending on your desired development and release cycles
Having the extra perspective could also really help in non-NTR routes, it's probably just more required for the NTR routes
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I’m definitely willing to give it a shot. Still trying to figure out what to prioritize. There has been lots of great suggestions. If I haven’t implement anything it’s more from my own skills limitation and not from not wanting to.
I can admit that everything is pointing towards a phone-game, but a simple yes or no would have helpt me instead of insults.
Anyhow, sorry for interfear in the discussions.
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There certainly are multiple camps about the perspective thing. Personally I dislike the concept of having two perspectives. Even more I hate when there is 3. I want to see scenes from MY perspective. I don't want to play the game again from another. So I'm more towards the "hacking" path but most I like the accidental reveal or limited information. (Also as I learned I really like the mechanic in phone games where messages get deleted or photo gets deleted that revealed something. But you can still read it IF you so choose.)
I don't really care seeing chat between two other parties. But I kind of want the story to be told via changes in people and what people are saying. Not knowing everything is good thing in some ways. Too much information first off is boring and makes everything so long. Wall of text for purpose of text. That's not interesting writing.
Consider a scene where I see woman walking out of office their hair messy and dress hiked up. I do not need to see what happened in that room to figure out that it wasn't just normal meeting. Not every motive and action needs to be described and reasoned out. If in picture someone is running it doesn't need multiple lines of text explaining that they are in hurry, that's obvious. It could just say that train leaves in 5 minutes, then the picture tells the story what happened.
But that's just my opinion and I know the multiple perspective style in visual novels is popular story telling method. I tend to skip those games even if they are good ones. It's just so boring. Hacking/spying much more interesting as I'm doing that as a player. I don't ever want to leave the player's body. Normally I would not even say this but I wanted to offer counter to the earlier opinion. It's important to understand that no matter what you do, someone gets salty, angry and will dislike the game. Trying to please everyone and you please no one. Better to do what you have visioned and either people like it or don't. Are you trying to make popular game or game you wanted to make. Takes certain amount of bravery to go on your own way and push thru the resistance of complaints.
I don't really care seeing chat between two other parties. But I kind of want the story to be told via changes in people and what people are saying. Not knowing everything is good thing in some ways. Too much information first off is boring and makes everything so long. Wall of text for purpose of text. That's not interesting writing.
Consider a scene where I see woman walking out of office their hair messy and dress hiked up. I do not need to see what happened in that room to figure out that it wasn't just normal meeting. Not every motive and action needs to be described and reasoned out. If in picture someone is running it doesn't need multiple lines of text explaining that they are in hurry, that's obvious. It could just say that train leaves in 5 minutes, then the picture tells the story what happened.
But that's just my opinion and I know the multiple perspective style in visual novels is popular story telling method. I tend to skip those games even if they are good ones. It's just so boring. Hacking/spying much more interesting as I'm doing that as a player. I don't ever want to leave the player's body. Normally I would not even say this but I wanted to offer counter to the earlier opinion. It's important to understand that no matter what you do, someone gets salty, angry and will dislike the game. Trying to please everyone and you please no one. Better to do what you have visioned and either people like it or don't. Are you trying to make popular game or game you wanted to make. Takes certain amount of bravery to go on your own way and push thru the resistance of complaints.
If I may share my opinion, without wishing to contradict anyone, I largely agree with Psyani’s point of view: although there are several perspectives, it is ultimately the developer’s vision that takes precedence. In my experience, multiplying alternate routes often undermines player immersion. A well-written scenario should be enough to captivate, without the constant need to add artificial choices. The player should be able to forge their own path; however, too many developers try to please everyone, and in the end, no one is truly satisfied — players disengage and sometimes lose all interest in the game.
Moreover, this desire to offer multiple pathways significantly increases the developer’s workload. Many end up abandoning their projects along the way, as creating a game with numerous branches is far too time-consuming. Updates struggle to please everyone because they rarely address everyone’s chosen route.
Where I no longer agree with Psyani is the idea of adding a hacking system. For the reasons mentioned above, games that become end up looking the same and give the impression of being simple copies of one another. Allowing the player to customize the main character’s name, and that of his wife, is more than enough to help players identify with the characters.
In conclusion, I think developers should listen to their community while remaining realistic about what is achievable in a reasonable timeframe. In my view, offering polls to let the community choose the main directions of the game is the best solution. Limiting the number of possible routes (for example, to three: faithful, cuckold, NTR) seems like a sensible compromise. Beyond that, the project becomes too heavy to develop, as each branch requires thousands of images and texts to offer a complete experience.
Moreover, this desire to offer multiple pathways significantly increases the developer’s workload. Many end up abandoning their projects along the way, as creating a game with numerous branches is far too time-consuming. Updates struggle to please everyone because they rarely address everyone’s chosen route.
Where I no longer agree with Psyani is the idea of adding a hacking system. For the reasons mentioned above, games that become end up looking the same and give the impression of being simple copies of one another. Allowing the player to customize the main character’s name, and that of his wife, is more than enough to help players identify with the characters.
In conclusion, I think developers should listen to their community while remaining realistic about what is achievable in a reasonable timeframe. In my view, offering polls to let the community choose the main directions of the game is the best solution. Limiting the number of possible routes (for example, to three: faithful, cuckold, NTR) seems like a sensible compromise. Beyond that, the project becomes too heavy to develop, as each branch requires thousands of images and texts to offer a complete experience.
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The game currently in portrait mode 20:9, so it's pretty long. if I were to split it, I would split it in half and text on bottom. But if there is a sex scene of her texting while cheating then I would probably just overlay the text bubbles over least visual interesting part of the sex scene. Thank you for the suggestion!
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What version the game? The thread say 0.3 but the download link 0.0.3, the folder 0.0.3, even the game say 0.0.3 but after reporting to change it gets rejected cuz the mod say its 0.3 -.-
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sorry that was a typo on the mega link for window. the correct version is V0.3.0. The most up-to-date version is on Patreon public V0.3.1 which gives you some sliders to control the text size and speed. I wanted to request an update to the links here, but wasn't sure if I could since it was just published