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Kulman

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Well, just played SoL release and last 2 chapters felt super rushed. I think he clearly was ready to be done with it.

I really am not a fan of the choice to use the MC from Autumn and Winter as an antagonist. It negates some of the feelings from those chapters imo. Add in the corruption being super fast for the mom, it makes for subpar NTR. I did like the childhood friend and the new kid angle as a side story. I am fine with fast corruption on what I dont consider the main girl, as that is a good way to get easy scenes; since it is a porn game. But without the solid build up on the mom, who I would say is the main focus, it just doesn't hit overall.

Then we get the Summer chapter, which is just instant. lol It didn't even have half assed built up, it just blasted off with scenes like it wanted to get it done and over.

Overall, when you take Autumn and Winter into account, the game is very good. Tons of very hot, high quality, animated scenes. It just seems he wrote himself into a corner with the 4 seasons and wanted to get it over with. Oh well, at the very least his art is hella hot and fappable.

I am curious about who did the writing for which parts. How much was NTRMAN and how much was someone who doesn't know wtf makes NTR good? lol
His new games really feel like they were written by someone who doesnt like ntr, but needs to write it. They get what it is on paper, but miss on all the important "hooks" that anybody who likes the genre instinctively knows.

And yeah, I think ntrman should take a longer break.
 

Eet_Fuk

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His new games really feel like they were written by someone who doesnt like ntr, but needs to write it. They get what it is on paper, but miss on all the important "hooks" that anybody who likes the genre instinctively knows.

And yeah, I think ntrman should take a longer break.
Just because I love this topic, what are some of those hooks?
 

Kulman

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Just because I love this topic, what are some of those hooks?
Have some build up to set up the relationship that is about to get destroyed. Have some good hidden ntr in it. Have some gradual corruption progression that shows not only on the sexy parts, but how the heroine treats MC.

Frankly its not that hard, but if you want to churn out games quickly, the first point gets forgotten. If you miss the first point, you have no foundation and the whole thing falls apart.

For me, and I know this one is pretty subjective, I like to have no choice in ntr. You give me choice whether to get ntred, and it stops being an ntr and becomes a ntrs. I want a story that is crafted with purpose and good storytelling, that requires the game to be very much on rails.

All systems where there is variable corruption, where you can get the heroine to max lewd by farming a lewd goblin encounter, or other forms of "freedom" just dont go along with good ntr. All storytelling and corruption cohesiveness goes out the window.

There is a reason why all the best ntr I can think of are all very much without player choice, or maybe just with choice of antagonist. Clipick games, ntrpg 1 and 2, henteria games, dark hero party - these are all games that I would put at the top of ntr and they are all very cohesive stories with the player being swept by the currents rather than having his own influence matter. That doesnt mean he doesnt try, its actually that futility of own actions that again, makes ntr hit better imo.


I see people often whining about having no choice, and while I agree with a lot of porn game genres that choice is nice, with ntr it ruins the whole thing. At least for me. There are some exceptions, but those are rare and very finely crafted (think mirage defection).
 
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Have some build up to set up the relationship that is about to get destroyed. Have some good hidden ntr in it. Have some gradual corruption progression that shows not only on the sexy parts, but how the heroine treats MC.

Frankly its not that hard, but if you want to churn out games quickly, the first point gets forgotten. If you miss the first point, you have no foundation and the whole thing falls apart.

For me, and I know this one is pretty subjective, I like to have no choice in ntr. You give me choice whether to get ntred, and it stops being an ntr and becomes a ntrs. I want a story that is crafted with purpose and good storytelling, that requires the game to be very much on rails.

All systems where there is variable corruption, where you can get the heroine to max lewd by farming a lewd goblin encounter, or other forms of "freedom" just dont go along with good ntr. All storytelling and corruption cohesiveness goes out the window.

There is a reason why all the best ntr I can think of are all very much without player choice, or maybe just with choice of antagonist. Clipick games, ntrpg 1 and 2, henteria games, dark hero party - these are all games that I would put at the top of ntr and they are all very cohesive stories with the player being swept by the currents rather than having his own influence matter. That doesnt mean he doesnt try, its actually that futility of own actions that again, makes ntr hit better imo.


I see people often whining about having no choice, and while I agree with a lot of porn game genres that choice is nice, with ntr it ruins the whole thing. At least for me. There are some exceptions, but those are rare and very finely crafted (think mirage defection).
By the way, I remembered one game Futa Fantasy. Where the author wanted to give the player a choice, where the choice has development options, BUT... Choices as well as the players' wishes simply broke the author, that the game died.
Therefore, yes, if you want to give the player a choice, then follow it clearly. How Henteria. There is a choice, but it is only at the end. And the story itself is good.
 

Voilsh

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Have some build up to set up the relationship that is about to get destroyed. Have some good hidden ntr in it. Have some gradual corruption progression that shows not only on the sexy parts, but how the heroine treats MC.

Frankly its not that hard, but if you want to churn out games quickly, the first point gets forgotten.
Having seen so many western devs tagging their game "ntr" while having no idea how it works, I can say it didn't get forgotten, they simply never understood or played proper ntr games trying to deliver a proper experience.

There is a reason why all the best ntr I can think of are all very much without player choice, or maybe just with choice of antagonist. Clipick games, ntrpg 1 and 2, henteria games, dark hero party - these are all games that I would put at the top of ntr and they are all very cohesive stories with the player being swept by the currents rather than having his own influence matter. That doesnt mean he doesnt try, its actually that futility of own actions that again, makes ntr hit better imo.


I see people often whining about having no choice, and while I agree with a lot of porn game genres that choice is nice, with ntr it ruins the whole thing. At least for me. There are some exceptions, but those are rare and very finely crafted (think mirage defection).
Yes and no, choices are fine imo, as long as they only lead to various ntr outcomes (mc doesn't know, mc knows, girl is corrupted fully, not fully corrupted, etc).
 

Reven23

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His new games really feel like they were written by someone who doesnt like ntr, but needs to write it. They get what it is on paper, but miss on all the important "hooks" that anybody who likes the genre instinctively knows.

And yeah, I think ntrman should take a longer break.
Crazy coz the fans still eat it up even if it sucks ass. I think vanilla fans will take over his fanbase sooner or later.
 
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