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Hello to all of you ntr enthusiast! I have a question about a scene and would appreciate your insight on whether if it is considered ntr. Imagine a scenario with two characters: "X" (female) and your Love Interest "A." Here's how the scene unfolds:

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I personally don't see this as NTR. However, after I read some comments about ntr, I don't even know anymore. What do you think?
Honestly it doesn't sound like NTR to me at all. In many vanilla anime if the Heroine gets molested by another female character nobody bats an eye, hell it's a pretty common trope of girls taking baths together and touching each others boobs. You'd need something more debauched to make it feel like the X and A have something special between each other without MCs knowledge. In your scenario it seems like X's action only made A think of MC more.
 

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However, X is a female, not a male. It's also possible she will become a future love interest. Is gender considered important in NTR stories?
Doesn't matter. In Beat Blades Haruka, FMC is graped by her (former) female superior, who’s also a heroine.
Definitely had NTR complaints at that time.

Gender doesn't play into NTR, though most of the audience here is male. What matters is someone is doing touchy-feely or perverted stuff with a possible love interest.

A good chunk of NTR scenes in Lusterise/Alicesoft games are actually committed by female characters. Unless one wants to stretch and say it's not NTR if a female does it, as opposed to an ugly bastard… then you’re getting into double standards lmao.

Honestly it doesn't sound like NTR to me at all. In many vanilla anime if the Heroine gets molested by another female character nobody bats an eye, hell it's a pretty common trope of girls taking baths together and touching each others boobs. You'd need something more debauched to make it feel like the X and A have something special between each other without MCs knowledge. In your scenario it seems like X's action only made A think of MC more.
They absolutely bat an eye. Some players don’t care because FxF fanservice is hot for them, even if forced.
But many DO care, especially if it becomes excessive and turns into a recurring theme.

See Angelica, who is easily one of the most hated characters in Cold Steel 4 due to her creepy tactics and feeling up all the heroines.
See Hino Yachika, who feels up all the heroines in Abaddon: Princess of Decay, and is also hated for that reason.

Literally replace the "hot girl" in many FxF scenes with an ugly bastard, and you can see why some would consider it NTR.
 
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Honestly it doesn't sound like NTR to me at all. In many vanilla anime if the Heroine gets molested by another female character nobody bats an eye, hell it's a pretty common trope of girls taking baths together and touching each others boobs. You'd need something more debauched to make it feel like the X and A have something special between each other without MCs knowledge. In your scenario it seems like X's action only made A think of MC more.
Yup, that's exactly what I was thinking. But I guess other people are seeing things differently.

Doesn't matter. In Beat Blades Haruka, FMC is graped by her (former) female superior, who’s also a heroine.
Definitely had NTR complaints at that time.

Gender doesn't play into NTR, though most of the audience here is male. What matters is someone is doing touchy-feely or perverted stuff with a possible love interest.

A good chunk of NTR scenes in Lusterise/Alicesoft games are actually committed by female characters. Unless one wants to stretch and say it's not NTR if a female does it, as opposed to an ugly bastard… then you’re getting into double standards lmao.
I'm trying to understand here. If there's a scenario where you "steal" a girlfriend from her SO. But then that said girl is having some stuff with her boyfriend, before you met her, would that be perceived as NTR? If dad has some actions with stepmom, in some games, is that also NTR? But... That's his wife, though. It's so hard. Should I just write full vanilla instead? lol
Sigh... I guess I should just write it as subtle as possible, if there's some complain, they can complain all they want. :LOL:
 

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Hello to all of you ntr enthusiast! I have a question about a scene and would appreciate your insight on whether if it is considered ntr. Imagine a scenario with two characters: "X" (female) and your Love Interest "A." Here's how the scene unfolds:

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I personally don't see this as NTR. However, after I read some comments about ntr, I don't even know anymore. What do you think?
personally i don't think it's ntr. but of course it depends on the context of the situation. and its not about the gender. ntr happen when the girl get taken away, or at least there's the threat of it. now in the scenario above, if X doing that with the intention to take A from mc, or if A become less close with mc because of that, then it's ntr.
 
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Yup, that's exactly what I was thinking. But I guess other people are seeing things differently.


I'm trying to understand here. If there's a scenario where you "steal" a girlfriend from her SO. But then that said girl is having some stuff with her boyfriend, before you met her, would that be perceived as NTR? If dad has some actions with stepmom, in some games, is that also NTR? But... That's his wife, though. It's so hard. Should I just write full vanilla instead? lol
Sigh... I guess I should just write it as subtle as possible, if there's some complain, they can complain all they want. :LOL:
Beautiful mom/stepmom having H with dad and son getting jealous is a theme in some NTR works, yes.
Again, it depends on your interpretation. A lot of NTR lends itself to Freudian themes, doubling down on the taboo aspect.

What is considered NTR isn’t always cut and dry. Make the game YOU want, and fans will follow if it’s written well.
 
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Beautiful mom/stepmom having H with dad and son getting jealous is a theme in some NTR works, yes.
Again, it depends on your interpretation. A lot of NTR lends itself to Freudian themes, doubling down on the taboo aspect.

What is considered NTR isn’t always cut and dry. Make the game YOU want, and fans will follow if it’s written well.
Your mom having sex with your dad is not NTR. Otherwise, every living human is a cuck. Someone other than the dad sure.

Is there any actual NTR games, novels, doujin where the son feels that he has been cucked because his dad sleeps with his mom?
 

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do you guys consider hotpast as NTR?
I only see this as a tool for NTR, it is mostly used in one of those, my virgin wife made some AV when when was younger then it leads to netorase.
Personally I am not a fan of what I call "layering" in narrative wich I would define as a fantasy within a fantasy:
  • it was all a dream (even though dreaming and psychology are not themes of the narrative).
  • You are hypnotized (character becomes two characters in one body without the interest of psychology again)
  • Fake history (wow man if i liked history I would have payed attention to it in class, now I have to learn fake history!!!?)
I am not saying remove it all, but they are just tool and should not be the center focus, is like putting the hammer before the furniture.

Hello to all of you ntr enthusiast! I have a question about a scene and would appreciate your insight on whether if it is considered ntr. Imagine a scenario with two characters: "X" (female) and your Love Interest "A." Here's how the scene unfolds:

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I personally don't see this as NTR. However, after I read some comments about ntr, I don't even know anymore. What do you think?
is my English bad because I did not understand the nuance here. are you talking about. a girl telling a boy how she would like to have sex with a bull just to turn on the boy? I do not think it is NTR on itself I have seen this used as a way for a girl to avoid cheating because they do not want to do the whole netorase thing. and her lying eventually turns into annoyance towards her partner and eventually true cheating.

it is a plot more than NTR itself.
 
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Your mom having sex with your dad is not NTR. Otherwise, every living human is a cuck. Someone other than the dad sure.

Is there any actual NTR games, novels, doujin where the son feels that he has been cucked because his dad sleeps with his mom?
you may think it is not but it is. I understand your position, though. but it is a accepted as NTR and there are several incest stories like that, even non blood related mothers fall into that and are categorized as NTR.

the japanese term for NTR is very broad, and all it needs to have is loosing something while you were distracted.
 
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jeez, I forgot why i was here for a moment.

anyone thinks the SAO should end soon, it feels like fujino has nothing to make and he is kind of "scavenging" for ideas from other games. the latest series of updates just feels like content filler, and I can almost point towards the game that inspired it. I swear to god if they have another locked room scenario I will make a post here shitting about it.

at least they finally had real sex. in the end I cant blame him for milking the SAO fans.
 

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jeez, I forgot why i was here for a moment.

anyone thinks the SAO should end soon, it feels like fujino has nothing to make and he is kind of "scavenging" for ideas from other games. the latest series of updates just feels like content filler, and I can almost point towards the game that inspired it. I swear to god if they have another locked room scenario I will make a post here shitting about it.

at least they finally had real sex. in the end I cant blame him for milking the SAO fans.
This is very unrelated but there are dozens of ongoing NTR games I've been waiting for to be finished before diving into them myself. Western devs have a knack for dragging out their game's development over the course of 5 years.
 

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Your mom having sex with your dad is not NTR. Otherwise, every living human is a cuck. Someone other than the dad sure.

Is there any actual NTR games, novels, doujin where the son feels that he has been cucked because his dad sleeps with his mom?
There was a Japanese doujin recently where a son was upset at how his mother was being treated by his abusive dad. The son also harbored romantic feelings toward his mother.

Later, things got heated up where they had sex and eloped. Father finds out, beats the shit out of them, but son eventually leaves with mother to start a new life together.

You could argue it is NTR from father’s perspective, but the story is very much framed from the son's POV, who is in angst over his mother being sexually abused by the father.

Sadly, I can’t seem to remember the damn name. But someone here should know.

And yes, son being a cuck (who gets over it) is a VERY prominent theme in Freud’s research. You could say Freud is one of the early pioneers of NTR lmao. His hypothesis was that these feelings of jealousy disappear later in life as the son accepts his role as the "son" of the family, though of course some never outgrow their feelings.

Some people here can probably admit to having early crushes on their mothers, though obviously not to the same degree as those in hentai, where everything is played up to 10.
 

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I got a couple with a quick search.

Hell I even remember one that is just the son realizing her mom does not coddle him as much as she used to then he goes into this detective story of finding out that her mom is having sex with his best friend, getting kinda pissed but ultimately letting it go because well... he realized his mother fantasies were just fantasies. he was not really attracted to his mom. probably form sankaku apron




 
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