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skyblueaster

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anonsuit said:
You know I checked your game after the leak. here is my advice.

  1. you are delivering too much quality. your game looks professional. that means clean well written, no bugs, logical plot. well presented UI branching paths.
I honestly think your game looks too good. but at the same time that is what drives me away from it.

the story feels "safe" as in lacking risks. the idea is not new the art is again professional, well proportioned, clean, well colored the kind of art AI tries to copy.

you have to be more messy. you see. NTR is about cleanliness or more precisely lack of.

for the example. in the bathroom scene, she gets raped while facing the mirror. if you want to make it more NTR you have to reduce the cleanliness.

  • smear her make up all over the sink and the mirrors
  • wet her hair in the toilet.
  • dishevel her clothes
  • piss on her face
humiliate the character.

same in the train scene, it all looks too clean, the train is clean.

  • surround her with passengers,
  • squeeze her by sweaty men all around.
  • grope every hole in her body.
  • rub dicks against buts.
  • use all her hands.
  • and have someone play with her panties while she is busy.
again.
Humiliate the character.

all the previous games have strong content surrounding humiliation.
you see the girls dancing like whores, you see the bad guys calling the cuck an idiot, you see the girls lying to the cuck, you see the characters becoming filthy both psychically and metaphysically.

in your game the girl get abused but not humiliated. it is not about being phisical is about bullying.

  • the picture with the big cock measured against her face. I remember when I was reading 120 days of sodom, how a simple line comparing the width of a girls hips to the guys dick just to drive the tiny girl vs big cock.
  • same with the girls getting pasties and swinging the tits.
  • or trusting their hips.
  • or taking their tongue out
  • or rolling their eyes
this is all stupid clownish shit that adds to the humiliation. and makes the character look more filthy and degraded.


and finally as a side not I did not like you using shaky text and blur in your shots, I want to see the artwork not blurred artwork. shit i personally hate that.
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Thanks! This is an interesting perspective. I’m going to survey my readers on this and see if they want more graphic depictions.
I grew up with LiLiM, Sakura Atelier, Waffle NTR VNs where the visuals are beautiful and the text crude. I know there are more violent, crude NTR out there, but I’ve generally stayed away from those.

I’m actually not very comfortable with overly graphic depictions (I guess that JP modesty lives within me), but I will see how far I can take the obscenity haha. While my text is very explicit, I think my heart will break seeing Akari visually degraded.

(I prefer to keep beautiful things beautiful even when they are fallen. So Akari won’t have her skin dyed or have piercings or anything like that. But if that’s what most players want, then…)

As for blur, none of the artwork is blurred or obscured. Everything is in high resolution, fully uncensored. The pictures are actually too big so the image slightly scrolls so you can see everything in detail. (People really like the text and visual effects so hearing this feedback is surprising.)

Now, there are some images where her face initially isn’t visible, and that is to add intrigue. Her face eventually gets revealed anyway, so nothing is really hidden from the player.
 
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Zeref@123#

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skyblueaster said:
Thanks! This is an interesting perspective. I’m going to survey my readers on this and see if they want more graphic depictions.
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Well I can say that the game needs to look lewd enough than beautiful. Your game gives a vanilla vibe (everything looks pretty and neat) which can be good for certain targeted audiences but for NTR and corruption, games like big breast ntr , scars of summer they knows how to make things lewd and nasty. That darkness is lacking.
 
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anonsuit

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skyblueaster said:
Thanks! This is an interesting perspective. I’m going to survey my readers on this and see if they want more graphic depictions.
I grew up with JP VN so I’m used to pretty pictures + crude text.
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its ok, personally I think the art style makes it hard to have that kind of thing, if you want serious advice I would recommend
"A promise best left unkept" and the things made by hangover cat, not his writing, fuck that! your writing is better. but the setups. the framing, the directions. yes those are definitely more lewd. and he does it while using a clean art similar to yours, but he abuses things like camera angles, to make dicks look bigger, he does things like forcing the girl to put a condom on the guy with his mouth and uses the games as things that add up to the humiliation.

think of it this way, your character is being chased by a shadow group that is playing with her. imagine if she was given the choice. put on this nasty enema and seal it with a buttplug and we will stop chasing you for X amount of time. if she complies she gets left alone only to find out that the plug is remote controlled, it vibrates and she is about to leak in a highly populated area.

the games by azienda turning the page, also bad writing compared to yours, but good corruption, how the main character is slowly changed from a regular woman to a lusty whore. how she changes her mind about her husband and looses respect towards him because he falls for her constant lies, her lack of self awareness in blaming him for her own downfall. those are all sinful and "unclean" thoughts.

meanwhile in your game the girl gets to succumb to "anger" but anger is also prideful and pride is a clean thing but again pride is good, pride drives people to higher resistance to humiliation. they will wear the biggest butt-plug and hold their face straight just fueled by the anger that drives them to achieve their goals. and the things they can do in blind rage or when the rage gives way to subservience is glorious, as well as the fact that rage is also fueled by frustration and frustration goes with the previously mentioned restraint, restraint that when is released gives way to whoredom and "freedom"

those things happen in the 2 games I mentioned previously. that is why the NTR term is not just about cheating, or relationships outside of established couples. that is why it can happen to your mom, your sister, your childhood friend. or as i jokingly say. your cat.
 
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MioNTR said:
Check this heroine’s for a NTR idea
View attachment 4801534 Bar maid

View attachment 4801535 Princess personal maid
View attachment 4801538 Princess
View attachment 4801539 Duchess stepmother
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I think for heroines in an NTR game you should go for 3 tops. so I would put the princess and the maid in a combo. that means the maid pretty much does not exist narratively.

as for image and concept well I think AI is quite generic, so you need to expand the concept to at least 1 paragraph per character to make it more appealing as an elevator pitch. for example

Character is archetypal sword hero.

Bar maid is childhood-friend, poor as the hero, both lived happy lives in the countryside, she is quite independent and driven but lacks resources and power.

Maid is hero's sister, she is loving and quiet, likes to serve prime state for bullying, and easy to dominate, she needs the money and knows she cant deny the requests of the royalty.

Princess is oblivious, believes in fairy tales and is not aware of the secrecy of the aristocracy she is unaware of the abuse being done to the maid. and the evil of her stepmother.

Stepmother is a plain bitch, high on her power the hardest to corrupt and evil to the core, she is the first antagonist pulling strings from behind by the simple fact that she is a narcissism. her fall will be the loudest.

the antagonist can be either a Tan skinned hero, nobleman, black uberman whatever it is for the angle you want to approach towards destroying these characters.
 
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anonsuit said:
I think for heroines in an NTR game you should go for 3 tops. so I would put the princess and the maid in a combo. that means the maid pretty much does not exist narratively.

as for image and concept well I think AI is quite generic, so you need to expand the concept to at least 1 paragraph per character to make it more appealing as an elevator pitch. for example

Character is archetypal sword hero.

Bar maid is childhood-friend, poor as the hero, both lived happy lives in the countryside, she is quite independent and driven but lacks resources and power.

Maid is hero's sister, she is loving and quiet, likes to serve prime state for bullying, and easy to dominate, she needs the money and knows she cant deny the requests of the royalty.

Princess is oblivious, believes in fairy tales and is not aware of the secrecy of the aristocracy she is unaware of the abuse being done to the maid. and the evil of her stepmother.

Stepmother is a plain bitch, high on her power the hardest to corrupt and evil to the core, she is the first antagonist pulling strings from behind by the simple fact that she is a narcissism. her fall will be the loudest.

the antagonist can be either a Tan skinned hero, nobleman, black uberman whatever it is for the angle you want to approach towards destroying these characters.
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I’m using ai to give me base I ideas for the heroines I want to actually hire an artist to help me approve the heroines the ones I have right here

for the story I have one idea and want to give it a few twists the protagonist is a commoner from simple village but they are in steampunk fantasy village is destroyed by monsters there is another villager he knows there too obviously they are both kids at this time they both survived barely the protagonist is founded by duchess step mother and husband they here his story they decided to adopt him he becomes their second son the first son was against it but eventually comes around becomes a good brother to him half a year pass he reunite with another village boy who survived the destruction he’s fat kid he’s future antagonist I leave it here for now

bar maid
She commoner who was born in the capital
She meets the protagonist as child learn his past she becomes his childhood friend she big sis personally but she crush on the protagonist

princess maid
She young noble lady who been friends with the princess since they were children she work hard to become her maid she met the protagonist with princess as kids she kinda a tsundere she didn’t like him at first because his previous status as commoner but as time went on she got over it and has sympathetic to commoners and she has feelings for him but she still has hard time expressing her feelings so he tsundere personality

the princess
She will be naive she met the protagonist as child because he was adopted by the duchess and her husband she kind caring and doesn’t discriminate against commoners she was nearly killed by a monster once as child because he but protagonist save her and got hurt luckily they were both saved from that moment on he became her one and only true love

the duchess stepmother
She well know amongst high society for being strong fierce calculating and cold to those who become her enemies but to the protagonist she very sweet caring mother even though they aren’t blood related she loves him as much as her own blood son but she inner loneliness she feels neglected by her husband and her inner desires have been slightly growing she has becoming closer to other villager boy who protagonist picked up and made into a servant

finally other villager boy
He’s fat kid who lost his parents before the village was destroyed the protagonist was only who talked to him after the village destroyed he spent half a year working as slave to terrible criminals before being reunited with the protagonist again he was asked by the protagonist to be a servant there were many options for him so he went he met protagonist new family and new life he hated that he have to suffer while protagonist lived comfortably but he saw the duchess he captivated by her beauty and kindness fell in love with her
 
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Zeref@123# said:
Well I can say that the game needs to look lewd enough than beautiful. Your game gives a vanilla vibe (everything looks pretty and neat) which can be good for certain targeted audiences but for NTR and corruption, games like big breast ntr , scars of summer they knows how to make things lewd and nasty. That darkness is lacking.
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This. I haven’t had the courage to try it because it looks vanilla even though it isn’t. Finally some people put this into words NTR GAMES NEEED DARKNESSS
 
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skyblueaster said:
I’m actually not very comfortable with overly graphic depictions (I guess that JP modesty lives within me), but I will see how far I can take the obscenity haha. While my text is very explicit, I think my heart will break seeing Akari visually degraded.

(I prefer to keep beautiful things beautiful even when they are fallen. So Akari won’t have her skin dyed or have piercings or anything like that. But if that’s what most players want, then…)

As for blur, none of the artwork is blurred or obscured. Everything is in high resolution, fully uncensored. The pictures are actually too big so the image slightly scrolls so you can see everything in detail. (People really like the text and visual effects so hearing this feedback is surprising.)
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your first paragraph is what is holding you back. NTR is a tragedy, characters are meant to meet their demise, and that in itself involve destroying them to reveal something amongst the rubble. if you want to keep your character clean then I recommend you read the misfortunes of justine. it is not NTR is just an old smut book written by the marquis de sade. that guy that got imprisoned for writing porn in the 1700s. you will understand the purpose of making justine suffer when you reach the ending.

the bluur is not about blurred artwork is a blurr effect you add when things happen. the same with the shaky letters. when you are expressing anger. I am not a fan of them but that is my personal choice if others like it then so be it.

in the end it is better to not sacrifice your vision, but at the same time be ready if your vision just happen to not be popular.
 
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rumkattemis said:
I think a lot of people use VPNs these days to get around region locked titles, but you can also look up the game's RJ code on other sites dedicated to archiving dlsite games, so for this one:
You must be registered to see the links
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That's really smart, in the URL!
I can't be bothered with vpn honestly, this is a good work around.
Thanks brother
 
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