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[skyblueaster]

I can kind of understand skipping things in an rpgmaker game but if you're skipping text in a visual novel what's the point? The scenes in any of these games are the weakest part. The art is rarely good enough to stand on its own and it's worse on average now than it was years ago because of the proliferation of ai. I delete games pretty quickly now when I end up skipping around because I can just go look at something better if that's all there is to it.

I’m mostly referring to JVNs, where the art is top-tier and scenes are voice-acted.
I don’t bother reading EVN if I’m going to skip the plot.
The thing is, there actually isn’t that much NTR EVN to begin with—that isn’t AVN slop, of course.
(I don’t mean this disparagingly, but holy is Steam filled with them.)

 

[anonsuit]

I can kind of understand skipping things in an rpgmaker game but if you're skipping text in a visual novel what's the point? The scenes in any of these games are the weakest part. The art is rarely good enough to stand on its own and it's worse on average now than it was years ago because of the proliferation of ai. I delete games pretty quickly now when I end up skipping around because I can just go look at something better if that's all there is to it.

for me it depends on the text. on how pleasant it is to read vs how trashy it is.
for me trashy is what I call teatime.

in anime i can watch characters talk about tea, its characteristics and smells and how pleasureable they are to taste. but in writing my brain simply rejects that as wasted time.

simply because in anime i can drone out that section, i can focus on the character's faces, the animation or the sounds being heard but in a VN that description is usually the only thing available. and I am sorry if the writer thinks that the flavors of fake tea may be interesting to me. or that a phone conversation with the service company is interesting to me, of the 500th time an MC is being told good morning how are you, I am fine and you? I am fine tank you, do you want some breakfast?? yes I what is for breakfast?

or WHEN I HAVE 6 FUCKING PARAGRAPHS DESCRIBING THE BACKGROUND IMAGE! this is one of the things I do not like about
hangovercat

to not leave this message in a rant. as for books, for example I recommend do androids dream of electric sheep as a pleasurable read, while neuromancer is not that pleasing to read. They are both great books, but I enjoyed reading one more than the other.

 

[Bartlett]

It depends. There are many VNs that also fill the time with a lot of expository and useless dialogue.

Don't forget the bane of everyone's existence, the so-called Ren'Py "sandbox." Possibly the worst idea known to man. The perfect compromise where you lose the streamlined, straightforward nature of the VN format, but without gaining any actual gameplay or freedom to look around and progress at your own pace.

 

[anonsuit]

i generally tend to avoid RPGM games because of the grinding, and sometimes they have pretty rough art. but if the story is good enough i could be tempted. have any recommendations?

Frist advice Use cheats I cheat on all the games that use the default implementation of the combat or any one that shows signs of grindy combat.

as for recomendations.

NTRPG2, and 1 just because 1 has historic value is not that great.
Boy hero ken
Henteria chronicles
Summer Stolen Paradise ( unfinished, buggy, not greeat art but the scenes are great)
the games made by little boy I WON'T LOSE! ~30 DAYS A PRIESTESS
or the ones made by enno The Old Mansion
the games by OreNoHut, though they get repetitive.
kurse of kubel is a game i recomend with cheats.
the games made by GapTax


as you mentioned some of these games have aquired taste art. I am personally ok with it because I prefer unrealistic art. is one of the reasons I do not like VAM games

there is also a couple of games where the characters are 2 girls. but I cant remember the names because they use the "Girl 1 and girl 2 + something else" pattern as their name they all can be found here though.

the only games I recomend to play ant not cheat are the SEQUEL games. but they are japanese grindy but at least you can see the developer put work in the combat and story.

 

[Kulman]

RPGM gamers are vastly superior to VNs for me when it comes to NTR. Especially since mystery ntr is my jam and its very, very hard to convey well in VN form.

With rpgm, you get the sense of space. Can work with spatial sounds (creaking that gets louder as you move to source, then some moans etc). Works with silhouettes, just overall being able to make a "living" world where stuff happens. Like walking around and seeing some side events in henteria. Just searching around looking for the heroine, suspicious of whats happening. Nothing may be happening, but its a natural action that is impossible to replicate in VN form.

Its very rare that a VN can top that for me and its usually just on the basis of ridiculously good art, or it somehow circumventing the usual VN formula.

 

[stupid_army]

Sorry for what happened to your country mate . Personally, i like the new design more.

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They change the artist for the remake.

 

[Knight6797]

RPGM gamers are vastly superior to VNs for me when it comes to NTR. Especially since mystery ntr is my jam and its very, very hard to convey well in VN form.

With rpgm, you get the sense of space. Can work with spatial sounds (creaking that gets louder as you move to source, then some moans etc). Works with silhouettes, just overall being able to make a "living" world where stuff happens. Like walking around and seeing some side events in henteria. Just searching around looking for the heroine, suspicious of whats happening. Nothing may be happening, but its a natural action that is impossible to replicate in VN form.

Its very rare that a VN can top that for me and its usually just on the basis of ridiculously good art, or it somehow circumventing the usual VN formula.

I think something similar can also be achieved with Unity in an RPG setting (like from the one ci-en I posted, maybe it's also another engine but it looks like Unity) but yea I agree that in general RPG game-engine can convey the feeling much better than VN's

 

[phantomremix]

RPGM gamers are vastly superior to VNs for me when it comes to NTR. Especially since mystery ntr is my jam and its very, very hard to convey well in VN form.

With rpgm, you get the sense of space. Can work with spatial sounds (creaking that gets louder as you move to source, then some moans etc). Works with silhouettes, just overall being able to make a "living" world where stuff happens. Like walking around and seeing some side events in henteria. Just searching around looking for the heroine, suspicious of whats happening. Nothing may be happening, but its a natural action that is impossible to replicate in VN form.

Its very rare that a VN can top that for me and its usually just on the basis of ridiculously good art, or it somehow circumventing the usual VN formula.

true, with RPGM, you can basically have a whole lot of mechanics to play around with, especially with NTR type of game where you can control the MC to explore the map at the scenes come at you organically instead of force (if that make sense). But most dev either become lazy, or has limited manpower/resources to play around with that mechanics and thus turn it into another CG-type hunter game and if that's the case he should go with the VN gamestyle.

But there are some very good VN game tho, but its quite rare.

 

[Knight6797]

true, with RPGM, you can basically have a whole lot of mechanics to play around with, especially with NTR type of game where you can control the MC to explore the map at the scenes come at you organically instead of force (if that make sense). But most dev either become lazy, or has limited manpower/resources to play around with that mechanics and thus turn it into another CG-type hunter game and if that's the case he should go with the VN gamestyle.

But there are some very good VN game tho, but its quite rare.

The problem is when it comes to NTR games alot of devs don't realize what kind of work it takes to make a game stand out. Alot of devs want to profit on basis of good art alone and their games become really stale. The games with in-depth mechanics are usually the ones that end in long-time development, but could end up being really good once they finally release. I think a good example of a game with a nice NTR mechanic is Solgante, even though I think the DLC was kinda disappointing the main UB route in Solgante was fantastic.

 

[Kulman]

New Fujino preference Survey.

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[Sieglinnde]

New Fujino preference Survey.

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what an specific survey

 

[Knight6797]

what an specific survey

Probably to entirely dictate the direction of the next game. I feel like with such a big following Fujino doesn't want to piss off his fanbase so he does quite alot of surveys for it.

 

[Kulman]

Probably to entirely dictate the direction of the next game. I feel like with such a big following Fujino doesn't want to piss off his fanbase so he does quite alot of surveys for it.

Just hoping people wont vote cheat this one... but knowing people, I bet they still will.

 

[Komdot]

I think that when Rain Monster is released, it will clearly demonstrate why RPGM is better for NTR when used properly.

 

[Sieglinnde]

Does someone knows something about this game? When it releases or which one is the latest version or something... I really wanted to play it and I was about to sub and play the 0.55 version (i think that's the latest one?) but the page declines my credit cards. It's a shame

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[monsterartisan]

Does someone knows something about this game? When it releases or which one is the latest version or something... I really wanted to play it and I was about to sub and play the 0.55 version (i think that's the latest one?) but the page declines my credit cards. It's a shame

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Some of the updates have been posted in this thread, but I have not seen latest demo being uploaded anywhere. Try and search the creator's number(22972) in this thread and you might see a demo link.

It has its own thread but there is also no demo uploaded there.
https://f95zone.to/threads/translation-request-chishinai-to-nagirumasukun.239533/

 

[Sieglinnde]

Some of the updates have been posted in this thread, but I have not seen latest demo being uploaded anywhere. Try and search the creator's number(22972) in this thread and you might see a demo link.

It has its own thread but there is also no demo uploaded there.
https://f95zone.to/threads/translation-request-chishinai-to-nagirumasukun.239533/

Do you know the number of the latest version? I am confused because I thought 0.55 was latest but there is algo 0.30, so idk...

 

[monsterartisan]

Do you know the number of the latest version? I am confused because I thought 0.55 was latest but there is algo 0.30, so idk...

.55 is the latest that has been uploaded in this thread if I remember correctly, unless I missed one demo upload here. I THINK there is also a doctor check up update? I am not sure what the number is for that, but it is not .55

 

[Sieglinnde]

.55 is the latest that has been uploaded in this thread if I remember correctly, unless I missed one demo upload here. I THINK there is also a doctor check up update? I am not sure what the number is for that, but it is not .55

Alright thanks man. Also, do you happen to know which is the latest version for Big Breast Party NTR?

 

[Sayasaya111]

i generally tend to avoid RPGM games because of the grinding, and sometimes they have pretty rough art. but if the story is good enough i could be tempted. have any recommendations?

Loretta's New Job.
Just replayed it yesterday, it still got me good.