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[boulbi78]

wdym AI stuff is so noticable. Its usually the lighting the best give away for the slop AI. For the western look AI you can see that it has 9 chins on the girls sides. And for realism AI its just feels super artificial. The only time AI looks real is when it used to do old looking photos.

I am not super against AI but you have to be super room temp iq not to see if its AI or not. Or your standards are just too low

U should look into flux and other people creations, u would be surprised, used img2video over 100~ pictures AI made by a flux creator ;

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samples in case u can't access civitai nsfw content ;

 

[KissKissStudio]

U should look into flux and other people creations, u would be surprised, used img2video over 100~ pictures AI made by a flux creator ;

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I am telling you right now that nobody can change my opinion. Maybe for average joe that is there to stroke his willy is not noticable, but for me, who lives in the porn industry and works with it. It's hard not to see what AI is and what it is not.

I pressed on the link and got this.




What is your point here? That it looks good for AI? Maybe its your taste, but its normal looking AI. That its animated? Well it looks fine i guess, but we again go back to same page AI work usually looks super similar.

If you think this is hard its not. If you want to know why i am not touching it myself? I dont have a lot of control of what it creates and it takes quite a lot of time even on my rtx5090.

You call me some sort of anti AI guy i am not that guys, but i just dislike the AI slop and ppl who call simple AI slop superior to artist work. And for now AI for my work flow is quite weak, but I already found a thing that can help me quite a lot. Like Ai that can help me animate a model and i can adjust things and port it to Daz to render it. And I have all control of what comes out of it.

 

[boulbi78]

I am telling you right now that nobody can change my opinion. Maybe for average joe that is there to stroke his willy is not noticable, but for me, who lives in the porn industry and works with it. It's hard not to see what AI is and what it is not.

I pressed on the link and got this.
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What is your point here? That it looks good for AI? Maybe its your taste, but its normal looking AI. That its animated? Well it looks fine i guess, but we again go back to same page AI work usually looks super similar.

If you think this is hard its not. If you want to know why i am not touching it myself? I dont have a lot of control of what it creates and it takes quite a lot of time even on my rtx5090.

You call me some sort of anti AI guy i am not that guys, but i just dislike the AI slop and ppl who call simple AI slop superior to artist work. And for now AI for my work flow is quite weak, but I already found a thing that can help me quite a lot. Like Ai that can help me animate a model and i can adjust things and port it to Daz to render it. And I have all control of what comes out of it.

I linked 4 clips, why i are talking about my SFW clips which aren't made to be realistic but AI classic stuff which support creators base models using 100% of their style. Look at the 4 clips, and other of the flux chicks used on those clips. And tell me if u can easily notice it being AI, don't run away
Edit; don't worry about it, im not trying to make u think that something isn't what it is. But when i look with my human eyes at WATW chicks, i can hardly notice the fact that they're AI chicks. Not trying to convince, just sharing the fact that it is not something "easy to notice", that's all.

 

[KissKissStudio]

I linked 4 clips, why i are talking about my SFW clips which aren't made to be realistic but AI classic stuff which support creators base models using 100% of their style. Look at the 4 clips, and other of the flux chicks used on those clips. And tell me if u can easily notice it being AI, don't run away

Like I mentioned before, the only thing that can make me not know if its AI its the amateurish taken photo AI, old looking pictures AI and rough sketch AI. After looking at some of them. There is few that i would probably wouldnt call it AI. But its like 1 picture out of 15.




There is few here that i wouldnt call it AI.

And wtf is this soft porn

 

[boulbi78]

Like I mentioned before, the only thing that can make me not know if its AI its the amateurish taken photo AI, old looking pictures AI and rough sketch AI. After looking at some of them. There is few that i would probably wouldnt call it AI. But its like 1 picture out of 15.

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There is few here that i wouldnt call it AI.

Seems that CIVITAI limit ur access to NSFW if u don't have an account, so u can't look at my clips and the ressources used. Would let u reach the creator page, and see his "WATW" girls, i linked in my previous post img2video clips i made, and in this post just pictures. They're are 100% AI made. Could u tell it ? I'm just curious. In my case i can't for most of the girls.

 

[KissKissStudio]

Seems that CIVITAI limit ur access to NSFW if u don't have an account, so u can't look at my clips and the ressources used. Would let u reach the creator page, and see his "WATW" girls, i linked in my previous post img2video clips i made, and in this post just pictures. They're are 100% AI made. Could u tell it ? I'm just curious. In my case i can't for most of the girls.

The first one prob not. The other two i can already tell by the eyes.

 

[boulbi78]

The first one prob not. The other two i can already tell by the eyes.

real chicks does photoshop, so in the end we are kinda fucked right ?
Edit ; Just saw ur message about the softporn, u got me, i made the clips to promote the chicks creator, so i did it without the help of loras, was a nightmare for me to make those 108 clips, but mission complete and loraless . Is the end it isn't as hard as it should with the help of a lora but since those were my firsts nsfw clips, im proud

 

[KissKissStudio]

real chicks does photoshop, so in the end we are kinda fucked right ?

We were fucked when makeup was invented for the girls thousands of years ago

 

[Zerboni]

Quais são os melhores animadores de Ntr no momento ? Eu conheço DDsims

 

[Kulman]

Quais são os melhores animadores de Ntr no momento ? Eu conheço DDsims

This is an english speaking forum.

 

[S3vatari0n]

What makes for the best antagonist in your opinion? This starting relationship is imo maybe even more important than developing the relationship of MC and heroine. I think about it in terms of relationship to MC/heroine. Here are some basic possibilities I remember seeing:
1) He is absolutely hated by both. He is a horrible human being and they let him know it (usually ugly bastard) (the main antagonists in this game for example sanctuary of promises )

2) He is hated by MC, only by proxy with heroine (which is easily swayed away). This is usually antagonist bullying MC (mother NTR usually) - Netorare milf natsuko

3) He is well liked by everyone around. Pretty much a paragon, good at everything. May or may not be an asshole in private. But both MC and heroine like him at start. I think Reborn Island sorta fits? I havent played too much of it but felt to me that way

4) He is pitied by heroine/MC - some pathetic person down on their luck, ends up taking advantage of heroine. Like the hobo in scars of summer

5) Liked by MC, hated by heroine - asshole best friend of MC ( I think I played some games like that, but nothing specific comes to mind)

For me its number one by a long shot. Maybe its because I am a big fan of corruption, but having a character go from being loathed and hated to being completely in control of the heroine makes for the longest and most satisfying journey.

I think for me, the best is a combo of 1 & 3 where the antagonist manages to (mostly) win/bribe the hearts of the people around him, but the MC and FMC have very good reason to not trust him, or be outright hostile to him. When the FMC reveals that she has in the end "fallen to the cult"... its a type of corruption I love to see in NTR hentai and wish there was more of.

 

[boulbi78]

The first one prob not. The other two i can already tell by the eyes.

also, is AI a problem ? For us liking NTR stuff or any NSFW games which can be shared in this forum ? Yea we got much more content, yea some people just drag n drops workflows and produces similar outputs. But in the end, this is more content, right ? I see AI as an extra for more content. Just dodge/ignore bad outputs, as u said u can easily recognize it. Maybe this is enough, recognize bad AI, accept that it can offer good stuffs such as NTR Felare when the creator does it properly. I see it as something good. And for the realistic reaching real stuff, it is another subject and since i don't really care about it if it doesn't hurt people i wont comment this.

 

[alibabuk]

Hi, Please help me find the name of the game

 

[KissKissStudio]

also, is AI a problem ? For us liking NTR stuff or any NSFW games which can be shared in this forum ? Yea we got much more content, yea some people just drag n drops workflows and produces similar outputs. But in the end, this is more content, right ? I see AI as an extra for more content. Just dodge/ignore bad outputs, as u said u can easily recognize it. Maybe this is enough, recognize bad AI, accept that it can offer good stuffs such as NTR Felare when the creator does it properly. I see it as something good. And for the realistic reaching real stuff, it is another subject and since i don't really care about it if it doesn't hurt people i wont comment this.

Its more of a problem that people dont get that AI bubble will soon explode. It will become quite expensive since it doesn't really make any money. We currently have a 50-year-old cat-loving woman generating 20 different cups of xmas theme coffee cup, that cost a bunch of money to run the servers.

I follow NTR felare and his project is nice. But the AI models definitely feel not from the same universe. For example, the green-haired busty teacher and Luna have very different looks. And ofc no real gameplay sadly, but that's 90% of porn games.

As for AI slop. There is Daz3D slop, there is shitty art slop. In the end, it still comes down to how much dev puts his time in. I see AI art as a new engine for porn games and a tool that might help me.

 

[boulbi78]

Its more of a problem that people dont get that AI bubble will soon explode. It will become quite expensive since it doesn't really make any money. We currently have a 50-year-old cat-loving woman generating 20 different cups of xmas theme coffee cup, that cost a bunch of money to run the servers.

I follow NTR felare and his project is nice. But the AI models definitely feel not from the same universe. For example, the green-haired busty teacher and Luna have very different looks. And ofc no real gameplay sadly, but that's 90% of porn games.

As for AI slop. There is Daz3D slop, there is shitty art slop. In the end, it still comes down to how much dev puts his time in. I see AI art as a new engine for porn games and a tool that might help me.

I see it the same way, since i only do local, i don't see the web generations costs. but just by seeing the quantity of img/video produced i can understand why websites such as civitai are getting slower each day. I also see more and more hardware rented, so might impact graphic cards business. But for us, and we're the most important at my eyes, this is more content, yea we gonna have to dodge "bad outputs", but we will get more outputs. I'm glad i can make NSFW hentai stuff with quality i couldn't even imagine when i was younger

 

[papywavy]

Hi, Please help me find the name of the game

the game doesnt have a name iirc.
the development was never finished and the dev has been gone for a bit over a year.
so yeah, unless we get a miracle, we're never seeing this game drop. which is a shame because the art and the mystery looked amazing. if i had to give a prediction, the game would've def been on par with big breast party ntr

here his socials:

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really a shame to see a goat disappear once again

 

[KissKissStudio]

I see it the same way, since i only do local, i don't see the web generations costs. but just by seeing the quantity of img/video produced i can understand why websites such as civitai are getting slower each day. I also see more and more hardware rented, so might impact graphic cards business. But for us, and we're the most important at my eyes, this is more content, yea we gonna have to dodge "bad outputs", but we will get more outputs. I'm glad i can make NSFW hentai stuff with quality i couldn't even imagine when i was younger

Well its true that u can do it. I dont know how you find soul in that work honestly but its prob my own taste

 

[boulbi78]

Well its true that u can do it. I dont know how you find soul in that work honestly but its prob my own taste

Since i don't really know what is a soul, i will answer for the "style", took me 5 months to reach my actual lvl over txt2img and editing it to have outputs which fit my "tastes", might be what u call "soul". It usually take me 45mins-1h30 for making a 15-25 pictures sets. such as the last shared sets on my pixiv. I like the results, it cannot be reproduced, and people which are now following me also likes them. So i just like it and share it to people who can enjoy it. And i know that some of them are similar as the guy i was 10 years ago, and being able to offer this is something i like.

 

[Kulman]

Its more of a problem that people dont get that AI bubble will soon explode. It will become quite expensive since it doesn't really make any money. We currently have a 50-year-old cat-loving woman generating 20 different cups of xmas theme coffee cup, that cost a bunch of money to run the servers.

I follow NTR felare and his project is nice. But the AI models definitely feel not from the same universe. For example, the green-haired busty teacher and Luna have very different looks. And ofc no real gameplay sadly, but that's 90% of porn games.

As for AI slop. There is Daz3D slop, there is shitty art slop. In the end, it still comes down to how much dev puts his time in. I see AI art as a new engine for porn games and a tool that might help me.

AI doesnt use that much energy to actually generate stuff. I mean its not zero, but if it was REALLY heavy, I wouldnt be able to generate a ton of stuff on an offline model on my home rig.

What it does use up a lot of energy on is training the models. Now you may say it comes hand in hand, but its a pretty big difference. The model is already trained, so let grandma generate her mugs. And a lot of the better models are actually paid for. Maybe not enough, but its an investment since more usage = more training.

EDIT: also this really is kinda off topic. Make your AI thread or just take it into DMs.

 

[KissKissStudio]

AI doesnt use that much energy to actually generate stuff. I mean its not zero, but if it was REALLY heavy, I wouldnt be able to generate a ton of stuff on an offline model on my home rig.

What it does use up a lot of energy on is training the models. Now you may say it comes hand in hand, but its a pretty big difference. The model is already trained, so let grandma generate her mugs. And a lot of the better models are actually paid for. Maybe not enough, but its an investment since more usage = more training.

EDIT: also this really is kinda off topic. Make your AI thread or just take it into DMs.

I am not speaking about simple stuff.