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[Kulman]

I feel like the dev mistakenly attributed CCTV 1's success as due its voyeurism aspect, and hence he double downed on it and created a pure voyeur successor. Maybe he instinctively thought it couldn't have been primarily the NTR aspect because it is afterall a polarizing niche.

But to speak more generally, i always instinctively thought that voyeurism is a perfect match to go hand in hand with NTR storylines. So i was kinda surprised that people here consider CCTV as a supposed breath of fresh air, since i thought such was supposed to be formulaic. I had this thought from years ago, back when the game "Urban Voyeur" (by Cesar) was in development and HC 2 was in its very early stages. I registered onto this site and made use of the Search by Tags feature, only to find very little match when i try the combination "NTR" and "Voyeurism".

It is observable that many devs tend to make use of the device of voyeurism very sparingly. As if out of necessity, just as the means to pacify their patrons' demand for periodic h-scenes, which are most of the time lackluster essentially-repeated teasing scenes anyways. And sometimes this is also at the cost of diminishing the suspense/flow (especially in stories that commit to mystery NTR), because gooner patrons/audiences would expect a steady progression of corruption. And i believe this is primarily because the devs are stuck with only 1 or 2 LIs to work with. So i think this scarcity or aversion to exploring voyeurism to the fullest is mainly due to resource and logistical limitations (such as drawing/posing workload when attempting to have an array of LIs).

I tried writing my own narrative framework that attempts to fix this problem, which is a story that is just as much NTR as it is voyeurism. I will try writing the descriptive summary here, since the original is very long:

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The breath of fresh air is the way voyeurism happens. Only game that sorta tried this was nebel and absolute borked the execution.

Wondering where to set up cameras. Getting better cameras to see better etc. Its all fun.

Frankly the second game seems very undercooked. Feels like half the content isnt triggering, you arent as invested and overall it just feels unsatisfying. Though I guess I had quite a few problems with the first one too. But I overlooked it since as I already mentioned, it deserves a lot of points for being innovative.

I played through a couple of the devs other games and frankly the dude is full of mechanic ideas. But they always feel undercooked. Like a brilliant ADHD dev that has trouble staying at an idea and developing it more deeply lol.

In one of the games, the characters got certain "thoughts" based on what happened. So the someone finds a porn magazine and starts thinking about girls. Then daily you get points depending on your actions that you can invest in those thoughts (like you see erotic stuff happening / or do erotic stuff, you get erotic points). Eventually levelling those thoughts up. So imagine the father sees the daughter changing. This gives a thought about the daugher (something along the lines of "I felt weirdly attracted"). Then as they interact, you could level this up until a fetish is born.

Would be cool if the mind map in this game was leveled more through gradual corruption. Also for the game to perhaps be a bit more focused. With the other family and so many paths, it felt like each one ended too short.

 

[Duongvipro2000]

Got the new CCTV game
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can you post another link, my mega is not enough to down

 

[Seven Soft]

The breath of fresh air is the way voyeurism happens. Only game that sorta tried this was nebel and absolute borked the execution.

Wondering where to set up cameras. Getting better cameras to see better etc. Its all fun.

Frankly the second game seems very undercooked. Feels like half the content isnt triggering, you arent as invested and overall it just feels unsatisfying. Though I guess I had quite a few problems with the first one too. But I overlooked it since as I already mentioned, it deserves a lot of points for being innovative.

I played through a couple of the devs other games and frankly the dude is full of mechanic ideas. But they always feel undercooked. Like a brilliant ADHD dev that has trouble staying at an idea and developing it more deeply lol.

In one of the games, the characters got certain "thoughts" based on what happened. So the someone finds a porn magazine and starts thinking about girls. Then daily you get points depending on your actions that you can invest in those thoughts (like you see erotic stuff happening / or do erotic stuff, you get erotic points). Eventually levelling those thoughts up. So imagine the father sees the daughter changing. This gives a thought about the daugher (something along the lines of "I felt weirdly attracted"). Then as they interact, you could level this up until a fetish is born.

Would be cool if the mind map in this game was leveled more through gradual corruption. Also for the game to perhaps be a bit more focused. With the other family and so many paths, it felt like each one ended too short.

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[Kulman]

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Yeah you barely see that. Usually its the typical "oh I am so pure and would never betray my husband, oh look, a cock! gurgh slurp, gukh gluk".

On another note. As I mentioned I really hated on phone ntr, I played https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-mobile-v0-14-0-nosyfellow.238597/ and really enjoyed it. While the heroine is essentially the meme I described up there it has a lot of boons.

1) it goes very fast to action. Since these games have shit build up anyway, why bother with it?
2) it is netorare, not netorase. Most phone games I played were netorase and the convincing and talking about netorase via phone is just incredibly cringy to me. No feelings. I also dont really like netorase that much, but via phone its abyssmal.
3) they dont skimp on the pics. The game gave a lot more naughty pics than other games of this genre I played. Or maybe they have sorta similar, but this game just didnt waste your time at all, so I finished it in under an hour
4) I like the inclusion of that social media site where you can see what happened to her
5) game has a special tech, so you get inner thoughts of the heroine sent via chat (the protagonist doesnt see it, just you). So she is replying to you, and then in pink cursive you see stuff like "slurp slurp, so big" etc. Really helps. These games tend to be too barebones in chat.

Anyone got recommends to something similar? A phone app ntr that is netorare, not netorase and doesnt take ages to progress?

 

[Fhfxfj]

Hi guys does anyone have CCTV USSR version for android?

 

[Seven Soft]

Yeah you barely see that. Usually its the typical "oh I am so pure and would never betray my husband, oh look, a cock! gurgh slurp, gukh gluk".

On another note. As I mentioned I really hated on phone ntr, I played https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-mobile-v0-14-0-nosyfellow.238597/ and really enjoyed it. While the heroine is essentially the meme I described up there it has a lot of boons.

1) it goes very fast to action. Since these games have shit build up anyway, why bother with it?
2) it is netorare, not netorase. Most phone games I played were netorase and the convincing and talking about netorase via phone is just incredibly cringy to me. No feelings. I also dont really like netorase that much, but via phone its abyssmal.
3) they dont skimp on the pics. The game gave a lot more naughty pics than other games of this genre I played. Or maybe they have sorta similar, but this game just didnt waste your time at all, so I finished it in under an hour
4) I like the inclusion of that social media site where you can see what happened to her
5) game has a special tech, so you get inner thoughts of the heroine sent via chat (the protagonist doesnt see it, just you). So she is replying to you, and then in pink cursive you see stuff like "slurp slurp, so big" etc. Really helps. These games tend to be too barebones in chat.

Anyone got recommends to something similar? A phone app ntr that is netorare, not netorase and doesnt take ages to progress?

Yeah, the AVN scene should depart from and evolve beyond the "pure woman turned whore" trope. Leave those poor women alone .

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[Kulman]

Yeah, the AVN scene should depart from and evolve beyond the "pure woman turned whore" trope. Leave those poor women alone .

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Bro is worried about being cancelled for an opinion on women on page 992 of a netorare discussion thread on a piracy porn site.

Anyway thanks for the recommend, I actually didnt play that game. Thought it was mainly netorase.

 

[Mulanpolp]

Got the new CCTV game
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the hero we don't deserve, thank you!

 

[Uncutgooner]

Anyone got 5T's new comic: "Pokemon SV - 12"?

 

[Seven Soft]

Bro is worried about being cancelled for an opinion on women on page 992 of a netorare discussion thread on a piracy porn site.

Naah, i gotta to stay sharp

 

[8947289hkd]

taffy tales is one of the most disappointing trainwrecks i've seen for ntr. the ntr version release was legit 10/10 but the devs didn't continue it for year+. afterwards their patreon got nuked and they had the most brilliant and intelligent idea possible - since patreon won't host them they should release on steam! they knew they couldn't release on steam as is so they decided to remake the game from the beginning in an attempt to get on steam LOL. not surprising at all they couldn't get it released on steam at all even after remaking it. steam absolutely hates high school settings with humans unless it's some furry porn then it's okay. now they devs need to spend another 2+ years making some "redux" version so they can get to where the original version was and then maybe they will continue the ntr.

the lead writer for the game has quit even too.

man, if the devs just released more ntr versions instead of smoking crack trying to get on steam they could've had one of the best ntr games on f95.

 

[Kulman]

Eh dev became greedy. N

taffy tales is one of the most disappointing trainwrecks i've seen for ntr. the ntr version release was legit 10/10 but the devs didn't continue it for year+. afterwards their patreon got nuked and they had the most brilliant and intelligent idea possible - since patreon won't host them they should release on steam! they knew they couldn't release on steam as is so they decided to remake the game from the beginning in an attempt to get on steam LOL. not surprising at all they couldn't get it released on steam at all even after remaking it. steam absolutely hates high school settings with humans unless it's some furry porn then it's okay. now they devs need to spend another 2+ years making some "redux" version so they can get to where the original version was and then maybe they will continue the ntr.

the lead writer for the game has quit even too.

man, if the devs just released more ntr versions instead of smoking crack trying to get on steam they could've had one of the best ntr games on f95.

Yeah its the classic porn game dev story.

1) dev is passionate and wants to create a game
2) game is popular so they are starting to get subscribers
3) short term the dev starts working more
4) subs keep piling in
5) dev is a bit tired so he starts to slack off. Then realizes that although he is putting in less work, the sub numbers arent going down, rather up. Why bust your back?
6) get increasingly morally deprived as you keep getting away with completely walking over your playerbase. Hah, suckers!
7) patreon subs apparently have no brains, so they keep being subbed anyway. As long as you pretend you are actually working.
8) you cant be arsed to create new stuff. So just announce a remake of old content that "really" needs polishing. yeah right

Throw in using ai trained on your artstyle so you dont really have to even draw anymore. Also a lot of health issues. Porn game dev is apparently the most risky job out there. Who knew?

This shit will keep happening until subs grow a backbone. But I dont see that happening so...

 

[Komdot]

Eh dev became greedy. N

Yeah its the classic porn game dev story.

1) dev is passionate and wants to create a game
2) game is popular so they are starting to get subscribers
3) short term the dev starts working more
4) subs keep piling in
5) dev is a bit tired so he starts to slack off. Then realizes that although he is putting in less work, the sub numbers arent going down, rather up. Why bust your back?
6) get increasingly morally deprived as you keep getting away with completely walking over your playerbase. Hah, suckers!
7) patreon subs apparently have no brains, so they keep being subbed anyway. As long as you pretend you are actually working.
8) you cant be arsed to create new stuff. So just announce a remake of old content that "really" needs polishing. yeah right

Throw in using ai trained on your artstyle so you dont really have to even draw anymore. Also a lot of health issues. Porn game dev is apparently the most risky job out there. Who knew?

This shit will keep happening until subs grow a backbone. But I dont see that happening so...

Western devs are either going to be the best people we know or as brainless and idiotic as possible.

Eastern devs, on the other hand, will disappear out of nowhere and you'll think they're dead.

 

[zebucetiva]

Western devs are either going to be the best people we know or as brainless and idiotic as possible.

Eastern devs, on the other hand, will disappear out of nowhere and you'll think they're dead.

Eastern developers have the health of 95-year-old smokers.

 

[BraveOrakio]

Eh dev became greedy. N

Yeah its the classic porn game dev story.

1) dev is passionate and wants to create a game
2) game is popular so they are starting to get subscribers
3) short term the dev starts working more
4) subs keep piling in
5) dev is a bit tired so he starts to slack off. Then realizes that although he is putting in less work, the sub numbers arent going down, rather up. Why bust your back?
6) get increasingly morally deprived as you keep getting away with completely walking over your playerbase. Hah, suckers!
7) patreon subs apparently have no brains, so they keep being subbed anyway. As long as you pretend you are actually working.
8) you cant be arsed to create new stuff. So just announce a remake of old content that "really" needs polishing. yeah right

Throw in using ai trained on your artstyle so you dont really have to even draw anymore. Also a lot of health issues. Porn game dev is apparently the most risky job out there. Who knew?

This shit will keep happening until subs grow a backbone. But I dont see that happening so...

Do you have any idea how hard it is to write/draw erotic content without jacking of to it? DO YOU?!

 

[Komdot]

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I wasn't expecting that, but I'm looking forward to it. The game seems to have good animations.

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[Klab040855]

Eh dev became greedy. N

Yeah its the classic porn game dev story.

1) dev is passionate and wants to create a game
2) game is popular so they are starting to get subscribers
3) short term the dev starts working more
4) subs keep piling in
5) dev is a bit tired so he starts to slack off. Then realizes that although he is putting in less work, the sub numbers arent going down, rather up. Why bust your back?
6) get increasingly morally deprived as you keep getting away with completely walking over your playerbase. Hah, suckers!
7) patreon subs apparently have no brains, so they keep being subbed anyway. As long as you pretend you are actually working.
8) you cant be arsed to create new stuff. So just announce a remake of old content that "really" needs polishing. yeah right

Throw in using ai trained on your artstyle so you dont really have to even draw anymore. Also a lot of health issues. Porn game dev is apparently the most risky job out there. Who knew?

This shit will keep happening until subs grow a backbone. But I dont see that happening so...

Why does it sound like a moral degeneration doujin? for some reason it's hot

 

[Komdot]

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I was even reading about chapter 2 of the game, and it's going to be a more serious NTR with slower and better developed corruption, I was very interested, it reminds me a lot of the SORAUE games.

 

[Sieglinnde]

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I was even reading about chapter 2 of the game, and it's going to be a more serious NTR with slower and better developed corruption, I was very interested, it reminds me a lot of the SORAUE games.
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So the "chapter 1" it's like a whole complete game, and the chapter 2 is another whole game with other characters and such?

 

[anonsuit]

yeah I went through the hassle of going the long ways (through the book sites) to get the credit. So much work, dont bother frankly.

what version of bepinx did you use, mine is crashing the preloader. despite following the guidelines.

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I wasn't expecting that, but I'm looking forward to it. The game seems to have good animations.

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Philomel is a great game, I tried it with Mtools but the translation ended up horrible. and the game seems to have branching options, that made certain scenes unreachable. game feels like a sandbox. depending on the girl's choices you get certain scenes, and even better is that even repeatable scenes evolve, as she can takes more of the big dick the scenes evolve things like the penis reaching deeper, or her dialog changing as her feelings change. this i a game I want to play when it is properly translated.