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Seven Soft

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Well there is mystery and then there is mystery. One of those gives you nothing, just the girl starts being a bit distant etc.

The other ones has you asshole coworker as your neighbor, who regularly brings girls to fuck and is loud while doing it. But this time the voice sounds a bit familiar? Huh, why are you all ruffled while working? What is that white liquid? Where are your hands when you are sitting side by side with the douche coworker?

The second type is hot. It gives you SOMETHING that is happening just outside your vision. The first one is just plain outside your vision. Its boring and its imo pure crap. Honto no Kimochi is itself pretty good, just untranslated... you also arent forced to play mc only pov first.
I guess the latter type of mystery you explained could be expanded into the term (let's just say) "world-building". I too believe this tends to be only a sparingly utilized element in Netorare AVN storytelling specifically, which (to give the devs the benefit of the doubt) is likely due to logistical, resource, and/or time constraints. Because it may or may not provide just a marginal improvement to the main narrative, and with diminishing returns since the market of NTR works is not as massive as the vanilla works (where the expansive world-building would more promisingly pay off).

For example, netorare stories can benefit from making the story starts before the male MC and the female Love Interest became an item. This way, the devs may have more room to build suspense via foreshadowing, by (for example) suggesting the female MC having slutty tendencies or past experiences. The dev can counterract this by establishing a solid reason for the female LI to fall in love with MC (which certainly is not the hardest thing to do), but the audience knows that this doesn't necessarily undo her past. So the element of suspense will still be there and ever-looming.

Another narrative device to help craft world-building is using side characters to establish an adulterous atmosphere, for example the female LI (now girlfriend) still keeping in touch with her "party girls" friend group. And the dev can then explicitly show those side characters' corruption (as in, being slutty), and it will positively contribute to the suspense in Male MC & his girl's storyline. The proximity with the party girls will evoke a sense of foreboding, as in the feeling that the girlfriend may likely fall into cheating because of the influences of her friends.

And of course there is always the narrative device of cyber-spying. Think snooping into private social media accounts ("finsta"), private messaging apps, remote access, hacking into surveillance cameras, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to involve the female LI (girlfriend) herself, at least in the first half of the story. But the dev should focus on establishing the cultural "feel" and atmosphere of the story's setting. For example just showing that the girlfriends' peers (both boys & girls) from campus is going house parties, yachting, raves, etc. And let the (once again) proximity do the work in building the narrative suspense. Ominously suggesting that the girlfriend may feel left out being "tied down" with MC, and so her subsequent outings ("girls night/trip) with her friends may entail something happening behind the curtains.

So the main point i'm trying to convey here is; the tension build-up doesn't have to always actively involve the female LI (girlfriend) herself. The "world" she chose to passively place herself in also greatly tells something about herself. And the reveal of these "tidbits" may be done gradually, so as to not make it seem like the girlfriend is (for some reason) forcing herself to be in compromising/risque situations all the time for the sake of building tension for the netorare plot.

Just giving my two cents. And by all means, let me know if i'm wrong in assuming these narratives techniques being rarely utilized. Because i'd LOVE to play some games/VNs with these elements ASAP.

EDIT: o shit, just realized you're the same dude i chatted with some time ago here. What's good
 
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crnisl

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Need more tomboy content in my life. Any recommendations?
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Actually, a half of the girls in The Last Sovereign are more or less tomboyish, starting from (she is practically the main girl in the story, I recall even a joke "Aka is MC" from someone in the community). I'm currently playing it, and it's of a superb-quality plot. But not an ntr-dedicated story, even though some suchlike things do happen.

Some ntr doujins with tomboyish characters I more or less liked

Just giving my two cents. And by all means, let me know if i'm wrong in assuming these narratives techniques being rarely utilized. Because i'd LOVE to play some games/VNs with these elements ASAP.
Have you tried Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers ? By the way, Kilometer Immorales, there're some kinda tomboyish characters.
 
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Eet_Fuk

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Actually, a half of the girls in The Last Sovereign are more or less tomboyish, starting from (she is practically the main girl in the story, I recall even a joke "Aka is MC" from someone in the community). I'm currently playing it, and it's of a superb-quality plot. But not an ntr-dedicated story, even though some suchlike things do happen.

Some ntr doujins with tomboyish characters I more or less liked


Have you tried Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers ? By the way, Kilometer Immorales, there're some kinda tomboyish characters.
Man, I just fucking love when you comment. Such great insights
 

shikigamiex

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Anybody have any good recommendations where you play as the guy and the girl has a independent schedule from you and you can run into her doing lewd things on the map?
Go check out the games by and . Their games practically revolve around that mechanic.
Personally I like the most since there's a lot of areas you can catch the heroines doing lewd stuff and there's 5 of them. Too bad this circle is dead.

For I like the best as they actually have schedules and you're not commanding the girl to go to certain areas like in their latest games. You actually have to explore the map to figure out where and what the heroine is up to.

Also, the NTRPG series from and its copycat dev .
 
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kyotheman101

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Below average if you ask me, only played it becouse of the art.
only played it for the art, the NTR is very meh, scenes are meh too, was disappointed i know this creator makes better games the RPG ones are good, trying find the one you character is the assists the girls you buff them in turn base combat.
 

KordNTR

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FMC can be NTR but isn't commonly considered it. Depends if she gets NTR'ed or not, there is a ton of yuri NTR for example.
 

melantha

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DLsite Recent NTR Games
List only includes links with download sources, like F95, otomi, banchi.
There are still other games in watchlist, but older ones that never got download links are ignored.
As mentioned in title, DLsite only. Steam-exclusives and other games not in DLsite are not included.
Games with no thumbnail have no "sfw" image in their product page that can be hosted on imgur.
If DLsite link doesn't open up the product page, game might involve AI generation and need Japan IP address.


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Seven Soft

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I have, unfortunately. I followed N_Taii since the beginning of HC2. The series is very narrative (as in, "lore") driven, and both (haven't played HC1 save for peeping the recollection room) did exceptionally well in "world-building" indeed. Even having employed some of the narrative tips i outlined.

But personally, i found myself liking the idea of instigated/intrusive corruption (i.e. a clear male antagonist persistently coaxing/manipulating heroine to put out) less and less. I feel like there is some kind of "ridiculousness" to it which i can't get behind. If maybe i were to put a finger on it, it's the antagonist's absurd dedication to corrupt (i.e. obsession, ipso facto) this girl in particular (the heroine) that came across to me as kinda pathetic. Which i guess is also a necessary feature to establish the story in this case. Even if it is "done right" (or at least believably) according to other readers, i still can't bring myself not to (for lack of better word) cringe at that particular narrative premise.

By all means the above is not an objective critique against the genre, just a personal preference.

I am now just desperate to see a netorare work where there is less emphasis on a male antagonist (as the primary instigator of the corruption plot), and instead the narrative emphasis lie more on just the moral turmoil of the FMC (girlfriend) herself. A story of someone trying to navigate the duality of being a faithful girlfriend while assimilating to a highly debauched urban culture. If there has to be an intrusive agent who instigates the corruption, i prefer it to be just the FMC's peers and not some obsessive dude.

Which i believe makes for a more grounded, believable, and organic narrative. Although some might exclude this kind of story as "not technically netorare", which is perfectly fine by me since i don't care for pedanticism. I care only to be met with the product i demand. So please let me know where i can find such works.

P.S. in one of my post here a while back, i tried to discuss the issue with dismissively classifying what i'm seeking into the problematically vague genre of "cheating". I instead opted to use the term "Quasi-Netorare" (which i made up myself).
 
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