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Coffeehead9 said:
Man i wish we would get more western styled ntr games soon with animations and stuff, sadly all the devs are making most dogshit vanilla games with few exceptions like forget ntr not even corruption or darker themed stuff is being made bruh. Is the market for ntr games that small or something? Like i know there are more vanilla players but still there should be more ntr/nts games considering we are the second biggest group here (not to mention a large number of female players apparently play ntr games here if the words of a certain mod on the discord are true).
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I would like to think we're actually getting more NTR games at any point in time before, except they're mostly not up to the standard of what good is now, compared to before. Nowadays the art is much more easier to produce so games can be much more simpler and faster to make as long as you can goon to AI, which is also why our standards of a good NTR game is a lot more complex, and we appreciate quality non-AI art more than ever.

I remember this discussion on here before, but JP games have been kind of stuck (?) in the formula of a generic RPGM style game with H-scenes, but I know a lot of western devs here have been producing bangers as they have been innovating / pushing the boundaries of their expertise and what games can entail. But again like some comments before, the change in Visa/Mastercard policies have neutered a lot of the more darker/loli/gore/mega ntr games in development.

I know Kulman and a few others recommended some really heavy/darker NTR games, have a look in the pages before and try them out! They're not on F95zone since it's not allowed.
 
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1762006470477.jpeg It seems like even though this is a female-protagonist game, it appears there will still be a hidden (mom & sister) NTR side plot from the younger brother's perspective. The dev's previous game was actually pretty good, at least in terms of writing NTR situations, so I'm quite interested to see how the devs will implement it.
 
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Does anyone have old AIL NTR game? 脅迫2 ～傷に咲く花 鮮血の紅～.
If you have it , share it please! I can't find any working links .



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zmfinga said:
I would like to think we're actually getting more NTR games at any point in time before, except they're mostly not up to the standard of what good is now, compared to before. Nowadays the art is much more easier to produce so games can be much more simpler and faster to make as long as you can goon to AI, which is also why our standards of a good NTR game is a lot more complex, and we appreciate quality non-AI art more than ever.

I remember this discussion on here before, but JP games have been kind of stuck (?) in the formula of a generic RPGM style game with H-scenes, but I know a lot of western devs here have been producing bangers as they have been innovating / pushing the boundaries of their expertise and what games can entail. But again like some comments before, the change in Visa/Mastercard policies have neutered a lot of the more darker/loli/gore/mega ntr games in development.

I know Kulman and a few others recommended some really heavy/darker NTR games, have a look in the pages before and try them out! They're not on F95zone since it's not allowed.
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To elaborate, studio-level NTR has slowed to a halt, as almost every JP NTR studio has closed shop. LiLiM is the only one that makes NTR consistently now. So if you want voice-acted NTR with great art, that’s almost all gone now (or play my game lol).

Now, it’s true doujin NTR is bigger than ever, but having a lot of one thing isn’t too meaningful when there’s no quality control. In fact, I would even say it’s tiring having to sift though pages and pages of NTRslop. In the old days, most releases were pretty good since the barrier of entry was much higher. You had to seriously invest in your art and storytelling to grab eyes; you couldn’t just prompt something that looks good on the surface to bait downloads.

Nowadays, I don’t even bother checking the new releases section of DLsite or F95 anymore. There’s simply not enough time to playtest every AI-CG game that gets made in the hopes of striking gold.

It’s good that the indie NTR scene is growing, but at the same time, it does feel that many newcoming NTR devs aren’t interested in the NTR aspects but the depravity instead. That is, the lewdness or immorality of sex is emphasized, but the jealousy aspects or the pain of losing a lover isn’t really touched upon. Great for attracting casual gooners who don’t get it up to vanilla sex anymore, but really bad for those of us looking for stories that’ll scar our souls lol.

You can see this in modern hentai too, where years of a relationship go down the gutter because the girl became a raving mess after just one dicking by the bull. In some cases, the girl is already corrupted at the start, so it’s just fapping to a mindbroken girl. The journey itself doesn’t exist anymore, it’s all about endpoints and instant gratification.

Rather uninspiring, but it is what it is.

BTW, do you have examples of your EN bangers? (I’ve read Azienda, Hangovercat, and most of Saikey/Kagura’s catalog. Really appreciate what Azienda/Hangover have done, but everyone already knows they’re good lol.)
 
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Klab040855 said:
For me at least they are really exciting, more than most ntr games and the popular ones
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he's amazing
and the dude gets better every game, he can learn unlike most devs.
and he's one of the few devs that understand how to make a good mystery ntr with a lot of voyeur scenes.
i cant wait fr
 
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skyblueaster said:
To elaborate, studio-level NTR has slowed to a halt, as almost every JP NTR studio has closed shop. LiLiM is the only one that makes NTR consistently now. So if you want voice-acted NTR with great art, that’s almost all gone now. Inflation has made it all but impossible to even eke out a passable living in NTR.

Doujin NTR is bigger than ever, but having a lot of one thing isn’t too meaningful when there’s no quality control.
In fact, I would even say it’s tiring having to sift though pages and pages of NTRslop. In the old days, most releases were pretty good since the barrier of entry was much higher.

Nowadays, I don’t even bother checking the new releases section of DLsite or F95 anymore. There’s simply not enough time to playtest every AI-CG game that gets made in the hopes of striking gold.

It’s good that the indie NTR scene is growing, but at the same time, it does feel that many newcoming NTR devs aren’t interested in the NTR aspects but the depravity instead. That is, the lewdness or immorality of sex is emphasized, but the jealousy aspects or the pain of losing a lover isn’t really touched upon. Great for attracting casual gooners who don’t get it up to vanilla sex anymore, but really bad for those of us looking for stories that’ll scar our souls lol.

You can see this in modern hentai too, where years of a relationship go down the gutter because the girl became a raving mess after just one dicking by the bull. In some cases, the girl is already corrupted at the start, so it’s just fapping to a mindbroken girl. The journey itself doesn’t exist anymore, it’s all about endpoints and instant gratification.

Rather uninspiring, but it is what it is.

BTW, do you have examples of your EN bangers? (I’ve read Azienda, Hangovercat, and most of Saikey/Kagura’s catalog. Really appreciate what Azienda/Hangover have done, but everyone already knows they’re good lol.)
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100% agree with the studio level closing shop due to inflation, I can't even watch hentai anymore because it's just Queen Bee or King Bee or something lol. Even with the notoriety of modern age gooners overmentioning they watch Overflow or Boku no Pico I would have thought there might have been a bigger investment into these studios.

I might even want to speculate that because Doujin NTR is so big, some authors are looking to dip into the H-game sphere outside of VNs, and that could be why we see the 6-year long Takeda Hiromitsu BBP and others I may not know about testing the waters. Great arts, shit game.

With the huge influx of AI slop, I think that's what's also contributing to that exhaustion of people not looking for that slow corruption, higher quality of plot - type games; there's just too many games to go through and the payout hasn't been worth it, especially for casual gooners. I think that's why SAO2 is popular, even with a very simplistic plot the scenes are whats carrying the game + collection of well known NTR mechanics taken from popular franchises into a game. No need to play Nebel Geisterjäger and Solgante, it's all in one game! I think I'm even one of them most times and have a bunch of them watched, looking for a day to play them.

Currently the work I'm most looking forward to is Summer Stolen Paradise by 7RKGuy, and I think a lot of people know I've been glazing it for awhile :LOL:. I myself have been super interested at how developers can convey NTR and slow corruption in a variety of mediums. This one has so many unique scenes and collections of evolving minigames (based on corruption), all by one dev and in the same RPGMaker; it has become one of my favourites to play as a game.

In terms of completed EN bangers, I can't even recollect when I felt satisfied finishing one, outside of what's been mentioned in this thread. I know King of Summer has been consistently releasing but it's at that point where you're just having fun with their fully corrupted selves. Maybe NTRMan's older releases like Adelaide Inn, Tenants of the Dead, Village Goddess, and games like Fleeting Iris: Alansya Chronicles and Hero Party Must Fall (this is Netori?).

I'm open to get some recommendations also since I'm quite new to this NTR games in general.
 
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zmfinga said:
100% agree with the studio level closing shop due to inflation, I can't even watch hentai anymore because it's just Queen Bee or King Bee or something lol. Even with the notoriety of modern age gooners overmentioning they watch Overflow or Boku no Pico I would have thought there might have been a bigger investment into these studios.

I might even want to speculate that because Doujin NTR is so big, some authors are looking to dip into the H-game sphere outside of VNs, and that could be why we see the 6-year long Takeda Hiromitsu BBP and others I may not know about testing the waters. Great arts, shit game.

With the huge influx of AI slop, I think that's what's also contributing to that exhaustion of people not looking for that slow corruption, higher quality of plot - type games; there's just too many games to go through and the payout hasn't been worth it, especially for casual gooners. I think that's why SAO2 is popular, even with a very simplistic plot the scenes are whats carrying the game + collection of well known NTR mechanics taken from popular franchises into a game. No need to play Nebel Geisterjäger and Solgante, it's all in one game! I think I'm even one of them most times and have a bunch of them watched, looking for a day to play them.

Currently the work I'm most looking forward to is Summer Stolen Paradise by 7RKGuy, and I think a lot of people know I've been glazing it for awhile :LOL:. I myself have been super interested at how developers can convey NTR and slow corruption in a variety of mediums. This one has so many unique scenes and collection of evolving minigames (based on corruption) it has become one of my favourites to play as a game.

In terms of completed EN bangers, I can't even recollect when I felt satisfied finishing one, outside of what's been mentioned in this thread. I know King of Summer has been consistently releasing but it's at that point where you're just having fun with their fully corrupted selves. Maybe NTRMan's older releases like Adelaide Inn, Tenants of the Dead, Village Goddess, and games like Fleeting Iris: Alansya Chronicles and Hero Party Must Fall (this is Netori?).

I'm open to get some recommendations also since I'm quite new to this NTR games in general.
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I think you would enjoy Hero party Must Fall even tho it's netori. Some scenes there hit me just like SSP does. First kiss scene combined with the ost slaps hard. Betrayal and humiliation is brutal no matter how unlikeable cuck can seem. It's definitely worth a try imo.

I'm not a big fan of Alansya Chronicles personally. It seems to me that dev never retouched the early stuff so the art changes as you progress. You also get locked out of routes easily.

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Man, I wonder why h games with only sprite art do nothing for me nowadays. Maybe I got too spoiled but none of them really grab me. Dropped rinatest and henteria because I got bored extremely fast, even though I can tell they're well made. It's funny because I remember loving ntrpg2 but I can't even find the energy to try a new game if it has no cg and/or animations.
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Relatable kinda but for me the only issue is not finding these games arousing. I enjoyed ntrpg2 as a game but not as a porn.

Now the logical conclusion would be that I need visual stimulation to get going but why do I get all hot and bothered chatting with the ai then (just text)? Making my own scenarios and such...
 
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NTR unavoidable! said:
I think you would enjoy Hero party Must Fall even tho it's netori. Some scenes there hit me just like SSP does. First kiss scene combined with the ost slaps hard. Betrayal and humiliation is brutal no matter how unlikeable cuck can seem. It's definitely worth a try imo.

I'm not a big fan of Alansya Chronicles personally. It seems to me that dev never retouched the early stuff so the art changes as you progress. You also get locked out of routes easily.
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I played Alansya quite early and I agree, and it was one of my first games played, and surprisingly only the few that remained finished.

I tried Hero Party before but I'm definitely thinking redoing it again; I went in blind and got stuck somewhere, so a guide/walkthrough run would be nice this time. I loved the training mechanic similar to The Censor.
 
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zmfinga said:
I played Alansya quite early and I agree, and it was one of my first games played, and surprisingly only the few that remained finished.

I tried Hero Party before but I'm definitely thinking redoing it again; I went in blind and got stuck somewhere, so a guide/walkthrough run would be nice this time. I loved the training mechanic similar to The Censor.
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Hero party must fall is maybe the best written ntr I ever played (if you count netori). At least as far as character development goes. I just loved how rich most of the characters are. A lot of depth, much different from the usual cookie cutter personalities you get in other games. Art is unique, music slaps... too bad the development really slowed down. But frankly there is more than enough content.
 
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Leonard75 said:
is there other game like that : https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-phone-group-vol-2-ch-11a-ntrcaptain.240467/post-18525197
With phone style and with homewrecker theme (woman tempt married husband) ?
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If my memory is correct, these have such a theme:
NTR Mobile — GF's friend is trying to seduce MC
Sexting My GF — MC's coworker is into him
Phone Behind Bars — MC's daughter's friend is after him

If you don't mind a male MC doing the homewrecking:
Friend Zoned — Only two chapters out... but MC will probably netori his friend from her BF
 
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