VN - Ren'Py - Of Birds and Bees [v0.8] [DiscipleOfVirginia]

Sigh. Oh, how i wish I could give this a good rating. It's got so many things that I like in smut - NTR, ugly bastard, corruption, cheating, boobs, and more.

But all those things are ruined by the unbelievable logorrheic torrent that blasts you in the face when you sit down and play this VN/game. It's not even that there are a lot of plot points, or convoluted storylines that need explanation; nope! It's pretty straightforward, with very little in the way of twists and turns. But the amount of word vomit that "Of Birds and Bees" requires sitting through is outrageous - and I spent years of my adult life in graduate school, so I know all about reading turgid, bloated screeds.

I wish there was a reason I could give for you to want to play this. There isn't. Just look at the 'preview' pics on F95 and imagine a cool game based around those images. I guarantee it will be more enjoyable than actually downloading this will be.

Whatever you want to say about DiscipleOfVirginia's games, they aren't your generic western porn game slop you typically find around these parts.

The man (or girl) definitely has a type - the sex scenes will almost invariably involve a young feisty PAWG being turned into a sub by a dominant unnatractive man or by some sort of mean lesbian - but he (or she) makes quality smut.

But the true reason these games are memorable is the reason I can't give this game 5 stars - the plot. There's an interesting setup in the beginning, he gets a nice lovecratian horror vibe going... and then it turns into a long, overindulgent, convoluted, anime-ass, world-building fever dream; piling up side-characters, whose names you can't help but forget, by the dozen right until the final chapter. Invariably I begin to lose interest after 5 to 8 hours. I fast-foward to see how long it will be until the next sex scene and am filled with despair, black makeup suddenly streaming down from my trembling eyes as the renders continue to flash before me for what seems like an eternity. Then I altF4 and go watch a Teen Pies video instead.

But I guess I'll give it another try when v0.9 drops as I am no longer capable of using my own imagination to get myself off

I love DoV's games ( except the tranny /futa one , female PoV scratches that itch without the squick! ) I'm glad we got an update of Of Birds and Bees for Christmas. Spankable asses in the back(door)rooms. Happy Nude Year

The renders are great and that's about it. The story is long and really weird. When all you want is get to the points of the story where there is ntr and sex, it's long even when skipping everything. So much time spent to show a really weird story that mostly nobody wanna hear about. I really wanted to see the scenes but there is no gallery at the time and the game just crashed midway when it was a while since I last saved so it pissed me off.

Yeah sorry, there is way too much gore. This is effectively a gore porn game, which is absolutely not advertised before you get in and is genuinely sickening to sit through, since the game goes into way too much detail describing it.

It's a shame cause the porn is quite good and the renders are great, but to get through it you have to sit through endless piles of disgusting gore that outnumber the actual pornography something like 3-1, and which only get more frequent as the game goes on, killing any erotic tension.

The game does have good humour at the start, having a tongue-in-cheek tone right down to the presence of constant cheerful plinky-plonky music throughout most of it, but this sense of good humour completely dissapears as you play through the game, and you get the sense the developer started taking himself way too seriously and forgot he was making pornography.

If you're into gore I guess you might like this, but if you just want some good ol' fashioned corruption you will be left sickened, disappointed and generally blue-balled.

Beautiful renders nothing else. If your looking for a game this isn't it.


Tried to get into story and just plain gave up.
Almost no porn mostly some kind of story that just makes you give up and start skipping to see if you will find any good lewd at least

Agreeing with most of the reviews here. Here's my quick summary as someone who prioritises the porn:

Sexy renders poorly spaced between far too much bloated story.
There is something here for fans of spanking, ugly bastards, and bimbofication (one long scene at the end of Amy's Bimbo route).

That's the summary.

I will also say that the renders at the end of the Bimbo path for Amy are great, and likewise the BDSM segment at the end of Liam's path. The last of Klaudia's scenes offers a great 'classroom' spanking scene too.

You can play all the routes at once - HOWEVER - the end of Amy's Bimbo route blocks the others mentioned above so if you want to see them all you'll have to blitz through it twice (ctrl is your friend).

RAMBLE/CRITIC

With all that being said... I HATE this game for 3 reasons:

1. It's bloated - there's about 1 hour of porn and 10 hours of story (bloat). Every time things look like it's getting into something good porn-wise, the scenes will be interrupted by the story. Speaking of which...

2. The story - it's poorly written drivel that goes on WAY too long. It's also almost completely disconnected from the porn scenes here which are arbitrarily incorporated into a weird lovecraftian horror. The fact that you can choose no routes and therefore skip all of the porn says it all.

3. Lack of payoff. The TpH (Tits Per Hour) is poor, and aside from the spanking (which is plentiful) and the scenes mentioned at the top of this review. There's basically nothing here worth the time investment.

Shit, I even went back through it a couple times holding ctrl down the whole time to see if there were any more worthwhile scenes and it took me a good 5-10 minutes to reach the end each time because of all the bloat mentioned before.

2 stars. One for high quality renders and one for effort.

This is not a "game". This is not a "Visual Novel".
Hell, this is barely a "Kinetic Novel".
It's basically a linear story with images. I think... there is a word for that. A "comic" maybe?

It's just that the writing and the drawings are... definitely pulp-level. Barely worth the medium it's printed on, and this one isn't even pulp paper.

Alright, I've "played" this game. I'm saying 'played' in the most generous term of the word, as there is really not much playing involved.
Nonetheless, I will rate this as a game.

In VN/Ren'Py type games I look for meaningful choices and the impacts my decisions have. It an additional cherry on top if the other characters also have relations between each other. Either way, I'm always interested in seeing the MC with the traits provided by the developer be formed by the decisions he/she makes.

That brings us to Of Birds and Bees. This isn't really a game - you barely make any decisions and the only ones you do make are route choices - like "Go the Lester route", which then opens that chapter. You do not have any agency at all in this game. You're simply reading a book with 3d generated images.

Now, if the game had been marked as a kinetic novel, then that'd be fine. But since it's not, I cannot be anything but disappointed.

Here's a short version:

• Not marked as a kinetic novel despite being one
• I skipped for longer than I care to admit to find just any player choice. IIRC I go to about 5 decisions.
• All decicions are all "route-based". I.E. do you want to go the Lester Route. You don't get any other agency than that.
• No agency. Just a book with added 3d generated images.

Of Birds and Bees really rubs me the wrong way for some reason, probably because it's a collection of tired horror tropes, is too linear/slow, not particularly well-written, thinks being random will make it more interesting, offers “transformation” paths that just switch to completely different character models, and recycles the “bimbo gets abused by a repulsive man” scenario too often.

But I'm sure some people will love it for its unusual aesthetics and that's perfectly fine, it just doesn't do it for me.

I literally had to come back and write a review months later just to say this is one of if not my number 1 favorite game on this site... (other contenders probably like Cyberslayers and Goons Raid Her) I still haven't finished playing through Autumn Boulevard but the lore, the tonal shifts, the horror, the renders, and obviously what brought me here in the first place, the ugly bastards, also the oddly tender moments when the ugly bastards face the horrors and bond with the mc... It is truly the greatest western horror VN I've ever seen... And I can't lie the doll tattoo the dumu en (probably misspelling that) I would actually get that tattooed as this game is responsible for getting me into the dollification sub-genre of bimbofication (already was a fan of bimbofication, another under-represented kink on here).. Well done and please finish this Disciple of Virginia; lol I maybe bring this dev up as an erotic horror example more than any other indie dev that's how enamored I am with this and Autumn Boulevard (but I'm more of an Of Birds And Bees fan let's be honest)

Poor Poor Poor - The writing in this game is atrocious, it tries to be smart intelligent and edgy but fails on almost all fronts.

The story has POTENTIAL but the writing does not live up to the premise of the story. Everything is long winded and meandering, it's like a movie that's 9 hours long when with a better script writer it could be condensed down to less than 3.

If you want some porn in your VN BEWARE, check the pictures on the front page, not counting Oral, their is literally 1-2 actual sex scenes and this VN started in 2019!! What have they been doing you ask? Mainly a horror type plot, and introducing us to 80 damn different forgettable characters.

The premise and some of the character models are really good. If you are a slow burn person this will be your jam, if you actually want some adult content. Fast forward pass the story portion and you will get to some hot setups that have zero payoff atm, but the setup is kinda hot.

Pretentious and Boring sadly.

I wanted to like this but the story just jumps from place to place randomly within the same thought. Between conversations and internal dialogue, then to a random 'foreshadowing' nonsensical phrase thrown in without a segway to build suspense and mystery, then sudenly cut to another scene. I feel no emotional connection to any characters, you get at brief backstory but they aren't developed at all. The horror and the porn seem like they could both exist independent of each other in two separate games/stories (at least up to the point I played). I would like to believe the horror/mystery gets better but it wasn't keeping my attention enough to bother finding out. The bulk of the story was just purposefully confusing and unexplained concepts masquerading as mystique. The renders are slightly above average overall but some scenes have below grade visuals. Every female character shot, even during mundane conversations, is a pure fanservice closeup of a butt, there was no subtlety.

Incredible game, but not for the faint hearted.

It has an interesting horror story and just like the previous game there is a range of character routes that highlight specific fetishes which wont be for everyone but if you enjoy domination, corruption, bimbofication and old/ugly then you will love this game. There is a good amount of ass worship content. I also like how the bimbo and mtf content is tied to side characters, it keeps you caring about their stories.
I must give a special mention to the lesbian domination route, its honestly amazing, the slow subtle corruption is great and im really suprised its a rare theme in adult games as it was insanely hot.
Renders are great, theres a variety of models. I did notice some clipping during animations which was a shame.
One negative i have was during a choice there was no warning that it would lead onto an ending, it was quite alot of content so needed to go back to an earlier save.

Im really looking forward to the route endings and hope they are just as depraved as the ones in autumn boulevard.

Story is all over the place and choices are rare, more like
non-existent. you met a dozen of character in second and next time you need to remember who is who ! you got a cryptic story mixing slice of life moment and "horror" moment with no build up or reasons.

review based on v0.7

I agree with the reviews before. What a bad game. The renders are at least mediocre. The story is absolutely "Meh".
Lewd scenes are more than rare - basically not to mention.
You can't even really skip through the boring content, as there are scripted delays every couple of renders, meaning the skip stopps and you have to wait for trasitions or until the animated part like dark screens are over.
For me at least the download has been a big waste in time and bandwidth.

Wow, how does this have such a good rating ????
So I downloaded this pig of VN....was it really 8 GB of wasted data?

Its a long read.....like a lotta of reading. The story is mediocre, ok, its kinda of sucky, but I like good stories, so I stuck with it for a while......and then some more......and then I realized, the accompanying renders were kinda also kinda lame.

And then I realized this is really a NwV (novel with visuals) pretending to be a VN. And guess what, at that point I realized that the novel portion sucked.

It also had lots of useless visuals or visuals that were out of sync with the story. But frankly, the (lengthy) story writing really took away from the overall experience. Also - no lewd scenes or H-scenes, so there's that too

Why was this even here.

Renders were above average. Models were also above average. Story/concept however, was horrible.

Recommendation to DEV....simply your story, less words and more renders....otherwise this remains an undownloaded snoooz feast.

Of Birds and Bees [v0.7 Beta] [DiscipleOfVirginia]

Without a doubt this was probably the worse download I've ever made on F95Zone. Literally over 8gb of nothing. A wasteland of content. With eyes fixated on my screen for an hour, I intently read the developing story. And I read. Annnnnd I read some more. After an hour, the game finally prompted me with a decision to choose a preselected route for the characters.

At no point are you immersed into an elaborate world of decision making. Instead everything is predetermined and you become a silenced audience member spamming the space bar to end the torture.

The music is great at setting a theme. And that's it. It's a pity for the music to be wasted on a so-called game (that isn't a game) such as this, because it should be linked with something of quality, instead of a visual novel that's got nothing interesting to offer.
I don't understand how this (not a game) visual novel could have a 4 star rating. Foreplay (forestory) is for things that are interesting. The characters aren't interesting, cut out the fore-play and get to the action, if any such thing exists, it certainly hadn't by the end of my third session of going back in & hoping it'd get somewhere. I could accept not having the same tastes, if it had offered something. It didn't.

Of Birds and Bees [v0.6]

I could see why people would like this game, I guess. But this one just isn´t for me. It´s very creative, but all over the place and gets boring really quickly because you wait and wait until something sexual happens, and the only time that happened was in some dreams.
I stopped after a long while, because it felt like 99% horror and maybe 1% sexual, that felt very vanilla and boring.
There´s just too much talking and horror sequences that I don´t find interesting.
It looks very creative and ambitious, but the Dev failed to make a xxx game out of it.