Sad but true. None of the artists expected to have AI-generated art so soon; it's not their fault their style reassembles too much with the AI slop.
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Xotanyx
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Its funny because TwistedScarlett has used AI in the past, but mostly as placeholder images. They didn't replace the generic character sprites used for a couple of side characters in MG1000. Though, they did replace them in the final release of Unveiling the Unknown. The H CG's have always been hand drawn as far as I can tell. Didn't play early versions of My Tuition or the MLP games, so I can't comment on them. Sarah Jessica Parker doesn't really do it for me.
Although, the AI they used is noticeably and obviously of a different style from their own artwork.
From version 0.9.1a of Unveiling the Unknown:
And from version 1.1.0 of Unveiling the Unknown:
jokuur
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lets just calm down guys first we dont have definitive proof to throw accusations because AI dont do sketches first (maybe it does but i didnt saw any) and second both ways can be true at same time AI could be trained on Scarlet art and he could try using AI himself at certain situations, personally i think its work smart not hard mindset and there is nothing wrong with that, i already saw artists doing similar mistakes to AI they do fingers wrong, perspective, eyes, shadows for example look at this hand
im pragmatic person and think like this: does it really matter in the end if something was drawn by hand or computer that much or we just want for it to look good in the end? i already talked to some artist that tried to switch to AI but came back working by himself because he didnt have enough freedom with AI it made too many mistakes and didnt do exact things the dev wanted it to be doing and playing with AI took actually more time than drawing himself
Sheepy Cloud
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Game might have a save bloat issue?
It's 4MB at current 100% (ALL current content completed).
Save editors also seem to really not like the file after a bit (Not sure exactly when it starts being an issue).
It's 4MB at current 100% (ALL current content completed).
Save editors also seem to really not like the file after a bit (Not sure exactly when it starts being an issue).
Well don't lie. It seems plausible and I trust that no AI was used... in the character models. But those backgrounds are AI. Which understandably makes people more skeptical of the rest of the artwork used.
Well it does matter for lots of reasons. You can't claim ownership of something generated by AI. You can't say "this is my art". Also as you alluded to, a lot of people just think it looks worse and it does, that tends to happen when you take the skill and technique out of art. Also AI unless trained on things you got permission to use, is literally stolen art. Also also, a game made using AI CGs kind of has to cater the story to what the prompter can manage to get the AI to do, rather than designing a satisfying story and then getting art to match it. Because if the AI can't be consistent then the story can't be consistent.
True, but also he's definitely using AI backgrounds, so these people are reasonable in theory suspicion.
Thanks for spotting this! I managed to find the issue. Expect all of your save files to spontaneously decrease in size by about x20 next update (which is nearly done)!
Sheepy Cloud
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Hello, so for whatever reason I can't play the lust option when encountering fake Tats. The button doesn't do anything.
jokuur
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its nice you care for well being of the game with art being bad but in the end its twistedscarlett creation, as a dev he should have creative freedom, we can give him ideas for development but he is the main executive of this project, if i was making game i would want to make it like i wanted to, if AI would help me considerably without much loss of quality then i would took it too, as i said i am pragmatist and maybe i am also little disappointment that real artists take 12 months for single scene update
if you think waiting 6-12 months for better quality is worth more than 2 months thats your freedom but i think he is doing fine job 2 months updates are awesome and when i look at those other games that take 12 months for updates i begin to think if i live after 10 years to enjoy that game or not and if its even gonna be finished in 10 years in the first place because thats just 10 or so updates
unless you giving him insane amount of money thru patreon then you could ask for some specifics or take ur money away everyone is free to do with their money what they want, but on the other side thats the reason i dont support much myself because if im giving money then i want to take some decisions in game making which i never take, and i only chip in games that i like on very high levels verging of 90% of content if i dont like game more than 10% or how developer behaves i never support them, thats my freedom as player, people that giving money are investors basically imo
and about this stolen art we cant say that for sure either because we dont know if AI used art or just real people photos, but if it used his art to train then it should be ok right? we can be sceptic about everything he said and dont believe him but to tell you truth i dont really care, artists publish their old works for free to gain publicity anyways, its similar to posting photo then someone editing it, the worst crime for me would be if someone said its his own work but it depends of how much he would edit it i think, if its considerably different then i would let go because its just not the same, like two different artist would draw same ass and tits and they are accusing each other because its just little difrent shape size color and pose, while people like me just want to look at tits and ass bro
last thing i dont yet understand fully is the difference between human training and AI training so if i copied same style of scarlett because i trained on his art and then drawjust like him but differently then that wouldnt be ok im assuming because AI doing same exact thing or would it be ok because i had to put my work in it?
Just wondering but will there be romance as I really want some rather than just pure smut. Also glad to see someone else views tatsumaki as a top tier waifu.
I think we are already seeing the first tentative signs of a romance between the two main characters.
sukubot
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OP has been updated with v0.3:
Version v0.3 begins the second major story arc of the game, and features a massive update to the skills system. Additionally, six main h-scenes have been added, along with eight new gameplay events in the Dead Rail area.
I've tested with all three major skill builds (physical, alchemy and esper), and made some balance tweaks, but let me know if it's too hard/easy with certain builds. And let me know if you encounter any issues. I played the game from the very start on a fresh save, and also tested it on a v0.2 save, but it's possible I missed something.
Version v0.3 begins the second major story arc of the game, and features a massive update to the skills system. Additionally, six main h-scenes have been added, along with eight new gameplay events in the Dead Rail area.
I've tested with all three major skill builds (physical, alchemy and esper), and made some balance tweaks, but let me know if it's too hard/easy with certain builds. And let me know if you encounter any issues. I played the game from the very start on a fresh save, and also tested it on a v0.2 save, but it's possible I missed something.
Changelog:
Major:
- New Advanced Acts: Anal, Reverse Cowgirl
- New Transformations: Dog Girl, Oni
- New Outfits: Goth, Gyaru
- New Area: Dead Rail, featuring: 8 Events, 4 Monster Girls, 3 Lewd CG
- New Story Event: 5 Monster Girls
- Cauldron Update: Massive Update. All abilities now have two upgrades. You can only select one at a time.
- 2 New Skills and 2 New Passives: Toxic Crescendo, Last Stand, Mind over Matter, and Silent Eclipse.
- You can now freely sell abilities to refund them.
- Skills no longer provide stats, instead, each skill tree provides stats depending on invested currency
- Added Critical Hits; scales with cunning.
- Additional Wordcount: 21,000
- Added a Target Dummy with configurable stats to the Cauldron menu: Unlocked after a certain morning event.
- Added a combat simulator, allowing you to replay battles.
- Damage numbers appear differently depending on whether it's DoT, a Crit, or a regular attack.
- Wits gives more mag on affection increases
- Tons of small changes; I checked through the entire game from the beginning
- Fixed an issue that caused save files to bloat. Expect all of your save files to spontaneously decrease in size by x20.
- Added a loss and flee condition to the Chimera vs. Imps battle
- Fixed an issue where camera position wouldn't be reset if sex camera movement was turned on
- 'Acid' status from Acid Flask now correctly resets between battles.
- Fixed a crash related to unlocking the shop and revisiting it on the same day
Haven't changed my mind. It just hasn't been added yet.
LusterDemon
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Is this really corruption tho? It's an okay game and all don't get me wrong, but the previous BNHA game was def corruption while this just seems like a perfectly healthy relationship between two mutually consenting adults lol\
"Heh, you dirty little sow, I'm going to corrupt you by having you open up to me about your insecurities and help you get over the walls preventing you from developing meaningful relationships!"
"Heh, you dirty little sow, I'm going to corrupt you by having you open up to me about your insecurities and help you get over the walls preventing you from developing meaningful relationships!"