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losercore

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So no Step 2 room maker?? Sad!

Honestly I'm not sure what I expected of the prologue, but it sure was something. I feel whelmed! I don't know what I was hoping for (except for making a room) but I feel it was just alright.

I'm hoping we get to absolutely guilt the fuckkkkk out of Opal in one of the moments WITHOUT the ending being all forced "it's okay i forgive you :) :) :)" like no return to being good with her it'd probably be a lot of writing for branching it out but they cannot do this much setting up of her not being the greatest mother without some kind of payoff.
 
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To be honest, imagine living with a single, constantly busy mother (who works tirelessly to provide for you both), to the point where your friends simply accept it as a given that no one will ever pick you up after school. And this is happening at just ten years old. Your mother might miss your performances or be unable to prioritize your needs because of her work. As an adult, I understand the necessity, but it still represents a fundamental lack of emotional care for a child; I do not blame Opal, but...The choice?
Additionally, I didn't fully understand GB-lady's response in the Q&A. Opal chose to have a baby, for no clear reason, without a stable job or income, and on her own. I completely understand that circumstances can be different, but in this case, it seems like an irresponsible decision. Of course, I'm grateful what Qiu, Tam, and their parents and grandparents step in to care for the MC. However, I have a feeling that my MC will only ever have a purely neutral relationship with Opal, even if Opal is very happy about the grandchildren.
 

ChubbyFatBoy

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To be honest, imagine living with a single, constantly busy mother (who works tirelessly to provide for you both), to the point where your friends simply accept it as a given that no one will ever pick you up after school. And this is happening at just ten years old. Your mother might miss your performances or be unable to prioritize your needs because of her work. As an adult, I understand the necessity, but it still represents a fundamental lack of emotional care for a child; I do not blame Opal, but...The choice?
Additionally, I didn't fully understand GB-lady's response in the Q&A. Opal chose to have a baby, for no clear reason, without a stable job or income, and on her own. I completely understand that circumstances can be different, but in this case, it seems like an irresponsible decision. Of course, I'm grateful what Qiu, Tam, and their parents and grandparents step in to care for the MC. However, I have a feeling that my MC will only ever have a purely neutral relationship with Opal, even if Opal is very happy about the grandchildren.
Opal is the mom right? I'm curious why they chose to go the single mother route to begin with? With so many games especially in this general area. The dad is either dead, MIA, or barely existent. And if he is around around. He's more then likely an asshole and you're probably trying to cuck him. The game is so chill and generally wholesome. I didn't really care or think about it at 1st. But then Qiu has both his parents, Tama has grandparents who are together. And it just got weird as I thought about it. Have run into a handful of games where the dad is both around and not a dick. They've always been a pleasant and welcome surprise. It really would've been nice here as well.
 

astra1010

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Opal was made to be sex-repulsed but she wanted to have a baby.

Then in OL1we had lesbian moms, so our MC is adopted - that wasn't that explored, but it could always be conflict too in a game.

. Cove has divorced parents and lived with his dad. So now we got a different kind of family again.
That guy diner dates Opal later, so maybe he will like step father for MC.

I think it's GB exploring different kinds of families in her game (like even Tammy with living with grandparents)
 

Kukiplo

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So no Step 2 room maker?? Sad!
Don't even wanna know how much I hate the Mcs room in step 1 Qui and Tamaracks room look so cool hopefully we get it next update because it dwells on me everytime I replay and gotta design an ugly step 1 room I don't understand why we can comment on the room in step 2 and say we're proud of it WHEN WE CAN'T DESIGN IT YET??

I unfortunately do blame Opal she decided to have a child without a second parent around and income trouble is incredibly irresponsible parenting. I have a single mother and I grew up resenting the fact I don't have a male or other parent role model (the difference is i had one until i was two he left go figure now i have a stepdad) but mc has nothing. It does hurt a kid and they don't feel enough because of it I'm 20 and I still get upset about this it's not like the parent died or anything they weren't around EVER it can hurt opportunities for the child because opal is so busy she misses time with her kid which can turn into resenting her it's very classic that empty promises plus everything else a teenage mc would have no trouble not liking or being neutral about the mom.

If the dad or other parent died I'd be less hostile towards her but their not and they've never been around so yes I can get why people don't like opal.
 

losercore

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Don't even wanna know how much I hate the Mcs room in step 1 Qui and Tamaracks room look so cool hopefully we get it next update because it dwells on me everytime I replay and gotta design an ugly step 1 room I don't understand why we can comment on the room in step 2 and say we're proud of it WHEN WE CAN'T DESIGN IT YET??
I'm just hoping they add it in a later build, and I'm assuming the options in the first were limited due to that whole just moved in and not doing the best financially thing. But after a few years, it's gotta be different. And better!

I unfortunately do blame Opal she decided to have a child without a second parent around and income trouble is incredibly irresponsible parenting. I have a single mother and I grew up resenting the fact I don't have a male or other parent role model (the difference is i had one until i was two he left go figure now i have a stepdad) but mc has nothing. It does hurt a kid and they don't feel enough because of it I'm 20 and I still get upset about this it's not like the parent died or anything they weren't around EVER it can hurt opportunities for the child because opal is so busy she misses time with her kid which can turn into resenting her it's very classic that empty promises plus everything else a teenage mc would have no trouble not liking or being neutral about the mom.

If the dad or other parent died I'd be less hostile towards her but their not and they've never been around so yes I can get why people don't like opal.
First I'd like to say I'm very sorry that happened man, you deserved a father and I hope you're doing alright. Your father should've helped raise you, but you seem like you grew up to be a decent guy.

Secondly, my biggest issue with Opal is exactly as you mentioned, the fact that she got a kid as a single mother, with income struggles, just because she wanted one. It's just selfish. She's not evil, and I don't full on hate her myself, I understand that as humans we all will act in selfish ways sometimes, but I certainly feel that with the childhood given to our character, we should be allowed to resent her without it being treated as a 'bad' option, or as the MC just being petty, the first game was more on the happy and fluffy side of things, with the deeper stuff being more the side dish, which was perfectly fine, but here we have a far more balanced act between the cute stuff and the angst, so it not doing so would be a huge mistake in my opinion.
I mean, she gave life to a whole another human being with (to our knowledge) full awareness that the kid would struggle, and that, based on the fact (if my memory serves me correctly) we never hear of an aunt or uncle or grandparents, she wouldn't have any major outside help. No matter what way you try to position it, she didn't just make a mistake, like accidentally get pregnant or something, she went out of her way to get a kid and acted completely selfishly. It should be discussed in the game.

I don't full on hate Opal, she is not some malicious figure or anything, but I think she is not a good mother.
 
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I'm just hoping they add it in a later build, and I'm assuming the options in the first were limited due to that whole just moved in and not doing the best financially thing. But after a few years, it's gotta be different. And better!


First I'd like to say I'm very sorry that happened man, you deserved a father and I hope you're doing alright. Your father should've helped raise you, but you seem like you grew up to be a decent guy.

Secondly, my biggest issue with Opal is exactly as you mentioned, the fact that she got a kid as a single mother, with income struggles, just because she wanted one. It's just selfish. She's not evil, and I don't full on hate her myself, I understand that as humans we all will act in selfish ways sometimes, but I certainly feel that with the childhood given to our character, we should be allowed to resent her without it being treated as a 'bad' option, or as the MC just being petty, the first game was more on the happy and fluffy side of things, with the deeper stuff being more the side dish, which was perfectly fine, but here we have a far more balanced act between the cute stuff and the angst, so it not doing so would be a huge mistake in my opinion.
I mean, she gave life to a whole another human being with (to our knowledge) full awareness that the kid would struggle, and that, based on the fact (if my memory serves me correctly) we never hear of an aunt or uncle or grandparents, she wouldn't have any major outside help. No matter what way you try to position it, she didn't just make a mistake, like accidentally get pregnant or something, she went out of her way to get a kid and acted completely selfishly. It should be discussed in the game.

I don't full on hate Opal, she is not some malicious figure or anything, but I think she is not a good mother.
REAL.. she's not exactly my favorite,qiu parents in the contrast are super cool!
 

sqeegy

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I've been refreshing this page for days to play the 1.4.21 update lolol. While playing, I found there actually is a bug if you go to the diner with just Qiu --> Do an anniversary toast, Tamarack's talking sprite will spawn, she'll say her anniversary lines, and stay in the screen the entire time after, blocking Qiu's face (which I just think is hilarious).

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ClockworkGnome

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Yeahhhh not a big fan of the voices for Step 1. No hate to the voice actors but they just do NOT sound right ;/ Maybe it'll get better for step 2, since I'd presume they'd be a little less like. over the top and cartoony for the teens? idk
I'll probably play with the sound off either way, voice acting in VNs has never been my fave thing
This is sort of how I look at things. I'm not really a fan of voiced dialogue (especially in indie games, where the voice-work is rarely as good as it is in the average AAA game, when it isn't even always good in those). But I usually don't complain about it as long as the option exists to turn it off in a menu somewhere (preferably separate from just muting the whole game entirely - I'd rather not have to sacrifice any background music or ambient noises just to silence vocal audio when you can put all of those things on separate tracks, and Ren'Py is very much capable of providing separate sliders for each).

I honestly can't think of a single game on F95 where I felt like voiced audio made the experience better.


to the point where your friends simply accept it as a given that no one will ever pick you up after school. And this is happening at just ten years old.
Not disagreeing about all the other implications, but I have a hard time seeing this specifically as an issue. Mainly because I grew up with multiple friends who were straight-up latchkey kids back when I was 10-years old.

You could even argue that I would have been one myself, if not for the fact that my grandparents lived in the same town I did. My mother worked during the day and didn't get home from work until around 5pm or so (while I got out of school around 3pm). And my dad worked the night shift, so most of the time I barely saw him during the week (he'd leave for work before I got home, he'd get home from work while I was sleeping, and he'd be sleeping when I woke up for school). I'd basically get up an hour early for school, my mom would drop me off at my grandparents, they'd watch me for an hour until I caught the bus, and then I'd go back to their house after school and stay for about 2 hours before my mom would pick me up on the way home from work. So if my grandparents weren't there, I would have had to spend about an hour or so "alone" in the house before leaving for school, then about two hours actually alone in the house after school, bringing a key with me and letting myself in.

Even walking isn't necessarily a crazy thing (depending on how far they're walking). My elementary school used to require any kids who lived within a mile of the school to walk instead of taking a bus, and I've heard of other schools that widened that distance to about 2 miles. And I lived in the suburbs. I could easily see people in a more rural neighborhood expecting kids to walk farther alone at even younger ages.

That being said, a lot of that was in the 80s, back before everyone thought kids needed to be bubblewrapped and protected at all times.
 

jinglyjibblets

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I've been refreshing this page for days to play the 1.4.21 update lolol. While playing, I found there actually is a bug if you go to the diner with just Qiu --> Do an anniversary toast, Tamarack's talking sprite will spawn, she'll say her anniversary lines, and stay in the screen the entire time after, blocking Qiu's face (which I just think is hilarious).

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Just Tamarack.
 

kimieto

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bro nglll the prolouge IS honestly underwhelming. i would've thought during diner scenes there would be more conversations and especially the walk to the park, i was super excited for that and it would've made some good, deep scenarios even if it was brief ngl. but i dont wanna ask too much especially because there are going to be some looong step 2 scenarios for others..
 

jaydenj

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bro nglll the prolouge IS honestly underwhelming. i would've thought during diner scenes there would be more conversations and especially the walk to the park, i was super excited for that and it would've made some good, deep scenarios even if it was brief ngl. but i dont wanna ask too much especially because there are going to be some looong step 2 scenarios for others..
Yeah, I thought there would be more conversations since the game makes you pick between Qiu and Tam. Maybe, hopefully, Step 2 Prologue Part 3c is a thing.
 

Kukiplo

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Qiu voice sample
Late to the party on these

Wait why do I actually hate this so bad it sounds so off to me I thought rens voice was goofy BUT THAT IS GOOFY yeahhh I won't play with voices I imagined Qui with a different sounding voice and it just threw that out the window I like Tams though so I'm stumped

I made my first black Mc today after my Asian and mixed one I had so much fun with the different hairstyles

I don't wanna be a hater or anything, but I don't know about these voices man. They sound mediocre and possibly annoying in long periods of time. They just seem like a waste of resources...
Your not a hater I hate them too I'm 20 years old and these voices sound like 7 year Olds to me not 10 year Olds my voice dropped when I was around that age so hearing a high voice throws me off I expected Qui to have more of a deeper voice that was full of enthusiasm not high pitched more of a baritone voice for him which sucks because the person voicing is a great voice actress but it's way too high Tamarack I can understand but the boys need deeper or monotone voices.

I wonder how that one sounds when Qui and Tamarack fight during the looking for the white hairded kid moment it'll sound goofy



Why does bro sound like Kid Trunks?
Accurate thing I've heard all week
 

Kukiplo

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bro nglll the prolouge IS honestly underwhelming. i would've thought during diner scenes there would be more conversations and especially the walk to the park, i was super excited for that and it would've made some good, deep scenarios even if it was brief ngl. but i dont wanna ask too much especially because there are going to be some looong step 2 scenarios for others..
Diner scene is shorter unless Qui and Tam are jealous and fighting with each other which kinda makes the scene unbearable to play a little bit especially when they force Mc to chose one or none at all lectured me when I asked if we could walk together and I felt like trash when I chose Qui so I went back and Chose Tam still felt awful this poly jealously playthrough is going to end up destroying me.

I'm impatient for step 2 I'm ready to really get into it and suffer through more

It is underwhelming though I have to delete re-download my game replay the whole thing which takes hours then get 10 minutes of new dialogue rather wait months then keep doing this
 

lolapalo

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Diner scene is shorter unless Qui and Tam are jealous and fighting with each other which kinda makes the scene unbearable to play a little bit especially when they force Mc to chose one or none at all lectured me when I asked if we could walk together and I felt like trash when I chose Qui so I went back and Chose Tam still felt awful this poly jealously playthrough is going to end up destroying me.

I'm impatient for step 2 I'm ready to really get into it and suffer through more

It is underwhelming though I have to delete re-download my game replay the whole thing which takes hours then get 10 minutes of new dialogue rather wait months then keep doing this
Oh? You dont need to replay all the thing? I just download the new version, delete the old, and whenever I open, I still have all the saved files.
 

sqeegy

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To be honest, imagine living with a single, constantly busy mother (who works tirelessly to provide for you both), to the point where your friends simply accept it as a given that no one will ever pick you up after school. And this is happening at just ten years old. Your mother might miss your performances or be unable to prioritize your needs because of her work. As an adult, I understand the necessity, but it still represents a fundamental lack of emotional care for a child; I do not blame Opal, but...The choice?
Additionally, I didn't fully understand GB-lady's response in the Q&A. Opal chose to have a baby, for no clear reason, without a stable job or income, and on her own. I completely understand that circumstances can be different, but in this case, it seems like an irresponsible decision. Of course, I'm grateful what Qiu, Tam, and their parents and grandparents step in to care for the MC. However, I have a feeling that my MC will only ever have a purely neutral relationship with Opal, even if Opal is very happy about the grandchildren.
--> (Before I start, I'm absolutely not criticizing your opinions, or your MC! Excuse me, I'm just a really chatty person. :,) )

This comment made me think! I replayed the game, and honestly, I do think Opal is doing just fine. Hear me out, the only time she's unavailable is in the Step 1 'Home' moment, and the Step 2 Prologue, right? When I paid more attention to Opal herself, she is a genuinely warm mother who is a good parent for the MC, other than when she's been called by her bosses-- Or the 'big wigs', as she calls it in-game. Which is also relatively not often either.

No matter how you act to her, rude, insulting, polite, or excited-- she's mature and nurtures the MC and their feelings, guiding them in the right way and balancing how much attention the MC needs (Not too overbearing or easy-going to the point of neglect). I feel like the Magic moment played a part in viewing how loving Opal is for the MC's opinions.

There's no shame, no belittlement. If you want to stay outside, she makes it clear you can't stay outside forever and WHY, without insulting the MC. And, after making herself clear, she fully cooperates in the MC's idea to be with their friends in the backyard a little longer. Very good for child development! Many parents, yes, plural: Cannot do even a quarter of the job she does, even if they butt heads.

At my first playthrough, it was easy to mistake that freedom to choose as neglect.

---For anyone uninterested, you can skip this! It's not important context for this reply!!! Just my own experiences---
My parents are Asian, and growing up, I had some sort of trauma that disabled me educationally. Couldn't focus, couldn't express myself when I was being hurt by someone, very paranoid. What happened I won't disclose, but my parents had taken the approach of beating me once I was returned from that incident that left me disabled mentally. Punishment, ignoring me, telling me to off myself (they were very graphic, but I won't be for this comment section LOL) and how they'd send me back to those who hurt me or just hurt me themselves, or even off themselves if I couldn't figure myself out. Started when I was 5, and didn't stop until I was 11 and was too far into puberty for my parents' comfort.

Both decided to justify it by saying that's 'just what I needed at the time', and it broke their heart more than their hits hurt me. I won't even bother expanding on that.

I wasn't allowed to talk to other kids outside of my siblings, and they promised to let me be with others once I was 'good enough', and how others were 'too stupid' and 'too good' for me at the same time. I was homeschooled and then charter schooled online. I felt incredibly lonely, and my older sibling (5 years older) at the time, liked to cut me and threaten to murder me while breaking my toys, and my parents didn't intervene. They'd hit me for retaliating, and blame my stunted ability to learn. This created a harsh and no-good relationship between me and my older sibling, and I cut my sibling off as soon as my parents stopped hurting me for disliking what happened to me. I deserve more respect than that, and life is too short to spend trying to glue sand together.

My parents are old now, and too pitiful to cut off. Call it hypocrisy, but I can't do it.

On birthdays, my parents punished me more than usual, because I needed to 'get better than last year', so for 8 years, I skipped my birthday and yelled at anyone who tried to congratulate me. The shame from the missed expectations was unbearable. No card, no present, and nothing I liked to eat because my parents felt they could 'choose for me better' and that they knew me more than I knew myself. There wasn't a single birthday I didn't cry, and get scolded just for feeling that way. Even after I stopped 'cancelling birthdays' with big tears, I celebrate it myself. I don't need others to be happy, even if it would help.

When I was 6, my older sister beat me for being okay with homosexuality. At the time, I had believed 'love is love', because that's what made sense to me. I'm ashamed to say, most of my late childhood after that incident, I was firm on trying to prove to my family I thought queerness was 'gross'. I couldn't question my sexuality without being beaten. My older sibling instilled in me as soon as I hit puberty that I should be 'sex appealing' while my parents said that I was pretty, but not to get arrogant for it. Belittling me for ten minutes after a simple, three word, 'You are pretty'. That helped me start to distance from them ALL early on. I believe my older sibling was attracted to me, which... I do have evidence for, but it's far too disgusting for me to say.

Nowadays, I'm no longer insecure. While I don't know what I identify, and I'm not looking to know now, I can feel safe without forcing myself to criticize others.

Simply put, anything and everything I did was 'wrong', 'stupid', and had me punished. No understanding, no love, and even for something like being too full, or vomiting (I had a small eating disorder as a child), I would be beaten senseless and yelled at for days, followed by animosity for months.
That is not familial love, or even real familial discipline. Discipline should not be like that. Kids should not receive that kind of hate. I specifically love the Our Life series (as well as GB's other games) because of how well done they do this, the inclusivity of family dynamics feel natural. And playing as the MC, the family feels warm and realistic at the same time.
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When I see Opal in game, my heart breaks because she's so thoughtful of the MC. It might just be my own warped perception, but when she communicates with them like they're a person who deserves the same amount of respect and decency anyone else would, or maybe even a little more- I can't help but cry even after a dozen playthroughs.

She's not happy in the two times she has to miss out on the MC's moments together, and with how she acts, it's implied she really does follow through later as soon as she can, given by the 'raincheck' thing. She doesn't really appear sad during the 'Home' moment when she packs the MC's lunch, because kids pretty much never see their parents sad. But that doesn't mean she's nonchalant about the whole thing. She also apologizes no matter what at the end of the moment, seriously ashamed she did that to her child. This implicates this isn't normal for her.

Every other time, the MC is 100% prioritized as her child, and when you think about whether or not you like Tamarack the same way (either platonically or romantically) in the Step 1 prologue, she pays close attention to YOU and how YOU feel. Not just the other adult talking, or the excited Tamarack.

I wouldn't say she's financially unfit either. Yes, she's called into work by her boss and needs to go, but that felt more like a professional thing over being backed into a corner financially. She has the same job by the time we get to Step 2, and heck, she literally bought a house at the start of the game-- Can afford extra curriculars, toys, and other activities for the MC. While she does go to the thrift shop, I don't think that makes her 'poor'.

Emotionally, she's relatively available, and while she sends the MC to do activities while she's working, I feel like that was more for the MC than herself, as the MC would likely become depressed by themselves. She spends a decent time at home too, although not as much as a stay at home mom. But it's nothing I can scoff at, since my stay at home mom was more absent than Opal, without any substances at all. My mom just did not like me, it was simple, hurtful, and true.

Walking home is quite normal, since the MC only lives about a few blocks from school (And all the residents are in the loop and considerate of one another, for what we've seen). Opal had seen the low crime rate, and after seeing for herself, made the decision that it was safe for the MC to walk. Especially since the MC (can) walk with their friends, so they're technically never alone then, either. Unless the MC chooses to be.

I grew up in a small town by the shore, and the crime rate was high. We were familiar with locals and never had any issues, so I never had to worry since there were others looking out for me. I walked far and wide, up and down the street. I just needed to get back before sun down. I will admit, this point is irrelevant, since I was simply lucky and realistically, walking alone as a child is dangerous, especially considering my parents made sure I didn't go to other kids and potentially group up (which would've been much safer).

Compared to the MC's situation, the MC is much safer and they only go to school and back-- As well as around the cul-de-sac. So on this, I feel like there's no problem. If the MC wanted, Opal can also drive them to school in the Home moment when the MC is now late for school, and since that was the only time I feel like it was critical they got driven, I have no problem here. Although Opal lets the MC walk if the MC insists, I feel like that's just her trying not to force herself on the MC, especially since the MC was hurt by her actions (cancelling last minute, literally).

Wanting a child despite not wanting a partner is something I completely understand. For all I know, Opal could've just wanted a child, point blank. Personally, I doubt I'll ever find love, because socially? I'm trash. Anxious, brimming with nerves, terrified. And I know why! I often feel very strongly in wanting a child, but not so much in wanting a spouse.
There doesn't need to be a special reason, and Opal does a good job as a mother, worker, and part of the community. Setting a relatively good example, making up for her faults (so far), and caring for our MC the best she can.

She may not be everyone's cup of tea, and she's not my favorite character by any means, but I appreciate what she does and how she is for the MC.
 
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