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and you dindt believe me it could happen apologize know:mad::mad: what twisted game ivy playingand where does she has this info from
Well, it is just a rumor for now; i'd guess the outcome might potentially depend on whether Cindy and Ian have their _love flag set, or are just hooking up. Ivy probably asked around about Cindy, after she heard Cindy has gotten the contract that Axel had apparently promised to help her get.
 
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I fucking broke my Ctrl:cry: BUT i have Tab:devilish:

IVY fucking knows to much. Talking to Ian Ivy dialogues change if Lena is involved with Axel or not. Did Lena told her or that whole stuck in traffic excuse was to push Lena to make choice/Setup her or is this also bugged? I mean it checks the variables. Anyone can confirm?

Overall update is balancing between good and bad. There are some minor bugs and also I do agree update needs refining but will come out as a good package when final is released.

I think there should be an option "SKIP TO NEXT CHOICE MENU" which directly jumps from menu to menu. This will be easier for us but HELL for dev to implement.

Well, the buildup is mainly in the previous flirting and attempts Alison makes in previous chapters. When Perry and Ian meet Alison in the gallery, they don't recognize her at first due to hair color change etc and are both smitten with "that fucking hot blonde with big tits", so it sort of changes how Ian views Alison. There's some interactions at the bar where they all meet with Cherry (on another note, Ian can make decision here to break up with Lena and seriously pursue Cherry) and afterwards Alison invites Ian over to her place, "if he wants to talk how he feels after meeting Gilian". Once at Alison's place she pretty much pulls out all stops openly hitting on Ian, and you can then go with it, or refuse and leave. The latter unsurprisingly causes a big relationship hit.


Simply, focus on other girls instead -- Cherry in the beginning, and then either Lena, Holly or whoever else, politely turning down Alison's offer to spend weekend together etc.
It means that I can be on Emma route and later can be on Alison's route too? Can you confirm this?
 
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It means that I can be on Emma route and later can be on Alison's route too? Can you confirm this?
My Ian isn't on Emma's route, but i didn't see anything in the script that should prevent it. Keep on mind this late version of hookup with Alison is slightly different -- the game doesn't actually place Ian on Alison's route, but treats it as them becoming "fuck buddies" or something along these lines. It remains to be seen what direction things go from there, i imagine there'll be some choices to make.
 
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It means that I can be on Emma route and later can be on Alison's route too? Can you confirm this?
Yes. There are a couple of instances when Alison doesn't invite Ian. One is if he spends the night with Cherry. Other instances often assume that Ian already could creampie her before. My assumption is that its the last chance to cum inside her for the big drama later.
 
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has eva made any mention on a gillian path? can a changed ian like win her back? i know shes said no to some other characters having any relationship paths or anything like that. but just wondering. maybe gillian is true soul mate. : P
 

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has eva made any mention on a gillian path? can a changed ian like win her back? i know shes said no to some other characters having any relationship paths or anything like that. but just wondering. maybe gillian is true soul mate. : P
It wasn't planned first, but interest/demand of the fans encouraged it. Now its highly likely, considering we can already get/lose affection points, chose a heart option etc.
The easiest way is if Gillian is dumped by Mike. Then she is looking for available options, the rest depends on how Ian is developed until that point (single, taken, still loving her, desperate doormat cuck etc.)
 

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The easiest way is if Gillian is dumped by Mike. Then she is looking for available options, the rest depends on how Ian is developed until that point (single, taken, still loving her, desperate doormat cuck etc.)
The funniest route is if we have Lena in relationship with Ian, cheating on him with Mike while Ian is still pining for Gilian. Then Lena and Gilian can just swap their guys :whistle::coffee:
 

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Does Alison have a cuck path or something with ian , if you tell her about the dream?
She does have a cuck path. There are some different dialogues if you do things like fail at the threesome (cum fast or chicken out and just watch Jeremy turn her out.) There are some other situations where there's a pretty obvious cuck choice. Alison becomes more dominating and of course says cucking type stuff. I don't remember all of it but it's pretty easy to figure out by picking the submissive and related responses/actions.
 

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has eva made any mention on a gillian path? can a changed ian like win her back? i know shes said no to some other characters having any relationship paths or anything like that. but just wondering. maybe gillian is true soul mate. : P
Imo, it's heavily implied in the new chapter. Ian gets a relationship point with her if he says she looks good, she says she wanted to reach out to Ian so many times, and if Ian says he still thinks about her, Ian thinks she looks shaken by his words.

To me it seems like she feels guilty for what she did to Ian and misses him, wanting to rekindle their relationship. Obviously we'll only know more when a new chapter releases, but that's what I got from their interaction.

The existence of the nightmare does throw a monkey wrench into the mix though. Ian can still compliment and say he still thinks about her even if he didn't have the nightmare or woke up early. It's existence to me implies that there will be cuck/simp route involving her, but I doubt that's what she at the moment expects from Ian.

Judging from Eva's past approach to variables I'd guess that it would go as follows. There would be a 3-4 stage variable involving Ian and Gillian's relationship, this variable could also just be the Chad variable. The highest value would be the path where Ian is a cuck and allows Gillian to sleep around/happily watches. A value below that would be Ian getting cheated on by her, but not being cool with it. And the the lower tier from that would be Ian being Chad enough/respectable enough not to be cheated on. A similar line of reasoning is used in one of the sex scene with Ian and Lena where Lena is cheating on Ian with Axel. She thinks that she wants Ian to take control so she won't feel the need to cheat. The 0 value for this relationship would be there not being a relationship.
 
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My 2cents on the update: a mix of good and bad but overall for the 4.5-6 month (depending on how you count) underwhelming.
+ Some nice visuals: shower scene, museum scene and photoshoot being highlights in my opinion (purely based on aesthetics)
+ Some interesting story beats: Gillian, Blonde Alison, Cucking
- Some recycled art (which is okay) and most scenes only slight variations of familiar visuals
- Mostly treading water or rather grueling pace in other story parts (Stan, Seymore; any dominance/corruption for Lena)
- Overall way too safe, no umpf to any part of the game

The bottom line for me is that I doubt there is much reason to get excited about future updates. Not because of creativity or style but for the following reason: Yes there will be hype, Yes EK is still one best VN out there, Yes I will continue to play the game but there are more and more cracks in the foundation. GGGB, for better or worse, just based on title and concept had a clear vision. It was satisfying to play the corruption/fall of Ashley into depravity. The wrap up of that game was clear and interesting, from porn to gangleader to pregnant to happy end to being dead. Most shortcomings of that game can be attributed to it being EK's first game. The production side of that game, also the communication on Patreon was or at least felt exciting as well, now it's a clusterfuck of simping and delays, excuses, apologies, lack of updates due to personal reasons...update, rinse, repeat. Yes this game is more complex, yes there are more lines of code (though I maintain this means very little), but at the end of the day it's a pornographic game.
 
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