VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Doppelgang]

Jeremy and "relationship Ian" are mutually exclusive for Lena, so it seems doubtful.

It's obviously going to be Perry. Obviously.

But Lena could still have given him a blowjob during the drinking game, watched him fuck Louise, masturbated thinking about him, and exchanged nudes with him.

The way Lena hijacks the conversation about Ian’s sexual fantasy (together with Ian’s reaction) implies that she will be the one to take control of it. It’s Lena’s consideration for Ian’s feelings that makes “relationship Ian” and Jeremy mutually exclusive, but just like with Louise and Jeremy, the threesome setting makes the lines way more blurry. To the extent that Lena doesn’t even have to suggest Jeremy: She can soften the deal to Ian by saying he can suggest a guy, and Jeremy would be the likely outcome. Sounds like something Lena can justify to herself.

It still leaves Louise, but nothing suggests that’s an issue for neither Jeremy nor Lena. Though it might be different if Louise broke up with Jeremy, as that cuts of most of Lena’s meaningful interactions with him.

And who else sounds like realistic alternatives? There’s so few obvious ones where all three would likely be up for it—to the extent that I actually considered suggesting Perry as a serious alternative

 

[ffive]

But Lena could still have given him a blowjob during the drinking game, watched him fuck Louise, masturbated thinking about him, and exchanged nudes with him.

Yes, but the game pretty specifically makes it mutually exclusive for Lena to have sex with Jeremy and be in relationship with Ian. I don't know what's Eva's reason for this, but making an exception for this for a threesome when prohibiting it otherwise would feel rather counter-intuitive to me.

I mean, with Holly, which has somewhat similar arrangement with route blocking, we have Lena repeatedly acknowledge this and narrate her reasoning. And we have lena_go_holly variable to track Lena's interest in Holly, even if she holds herself back. But with Jeremy there's no such thing, if Lena enters relationship with Ian then she basically acts as if nothing she did with Jeremy ever happened, there is no further interactions and she doesn't spare him any thoughts. So going from this to "hey, how about a threesome" would be a bit weird.

 

[dolfe67]

Like someone said, the threesome is for Ian's fantasy as talked about in the party. So it's a probably a MFF. But who, and will we have a choice on the girl or only one option?

I see Louise, commanded by Lena but not everyone is on that path. Ivy might be convinced by Lena, and depending on variables it could be a normal MFF or end up as Ian watching Ivy and Lena

 

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[Blurpee69]

Like someone said, the threesome is for Ian's fantasy as talked about in the party. So it's a probably a MFF. But who, and will we have a choice on the girl or only one option?

I see Louise, commanded by Lena but not everyone is on that path. Ivy might be convinced by Lena, and depending on variables it could be a normal MFF or end up as Ian watching Ivy and Lena

I think there can be multiple variables here depending on what Ian and Lena's relationships are like. If Ian has had sex with Ivy, a Lena / Ivy / Ian scene could happen. If Ian didn't have sex with Ivy, but Louise is Lena's sub, it could be that combination. Allison or Holly could also get involved. ffive has looked and understands the code, so they could probably say which variables are available.

Or it's just Perry sweeping in to lay the pipe like the sex god he is.

 

[lipe2410]

Like someone said, the threesome is for Ian's fantasy as talked about in the party. So it's a probably a MFF. But who, and will we have a choice on the girl or only one option?

I see Louise, commanded by Lena but not everyone is on that path. Ivy might be convinced by Lena, and depending on variables it could be a normal MFF or end up as Ian watching Ivy and Lena

Threesomes probably will depend if player match the conditions for each character
To a Lena/Ian/Ivy threesome: probably both will have good relationship with her (Lena and Ivy had sex, Ian catchs Ivy interest)
Lena/Ian/Louise: Players should be in Lousie's path (without) as Lena and dominate her
Lena/Ian/Emma: Should be in Emma's path as Ian + Lena should be get along with Emma
Lena/Ian/Holly: Both Lena and Ian should interested in Holly and Holly also should be into both.
There is also Bad Jess who probably will accept a threesome as soon as they ask her

 

[fatpussy123]

Ok about the Ian FFM threesome, I see a lot of possibilities.

Ivy. Her gym content with Ian was only accessible if Ian had max relationship with her, which required Ian coming forth to Axel about Lena. In other words, for Ian to have a relationship with Ivy he needs to have one with Lena first. Also Lena and Ivy already have a friendship and sexual experiences with each other. This makes her a likely candidate.

Louise being Lena's pet even when Lena and Ian are dating makes her another possibility. Ian and Louise also had a brief interaction in the last chapter, something that hasn't happened previously.

Emma could also be an option considering her openness and friendship with both Ian and Lena.

I think Holly would require more narrative work to justify at this point, but could happen down the road.

Cherry could be an option. She is lacking content at the moment and this would be a great way to make her more relevant. Lena was previously willing to do a threesome with her and if Ian can make them patch things up he could be rewarded with a threesome.

The final candidate and the most crazy option would be Cindy.

Why would Cindy be an option? From a business standpoint all ORS fans would love a threesome featuring Cindy, Lena, and Ian. Nobody could claim that characters like Axel and Jeremy get more action than Ian after that. Also it would prime people for the inevitable Axel, Lena, and Cindy threesome (WHICH I ABSOLUTELY THINK IS HAPPENING). Cindy is now single, regardless of playthrough. She and Lena have a sort of rivalry, competing for the Wildcats position and Cindy being jealous of Lena's singing. Ian can also cheat on Lena with Cindy. If he were to suggest Cindy after cheating on Lena with her and then setting up a threesome without Lena knowing about the affair it would be like the Axel and Cherry situation and Ian would channel his inner Axel.

 

[ffive]

I think Holly would require more narrative work to justify at this point, but could happen down the road.

There's lot of romance/tension building available for Lena when it comes to (single) Holly already. By Ch.10 it can advance to the point where she effectively only (potentially) holds back from having sex with Holly out of concern it'd make a mess out of her relationship with Ian (and Holly) given Holly's feelings. So going from this to Lena suggesting Holly as possible candidate wouldn't be that far-fetched, she just might give in to her desires to have both Ian and Holly in her life, consequences be damned.

edit:

Cindy is now single, regardless of playthrough.

No, regardless of playthrough by Ch.11 prologue Cindy is still with Wade, and there's no actual guarantee they'll break up.

But yes, a threesome involving her (that'd be just like repeat of Lena/Axel/Cherry) does seem like a possibility, if just for that situation repeat thing.

 

[dolfe67]

Cherry could be an option. She is lacking content at the moment and this would be a great way to make her more relevant. Lena was previously willing to do a threesome with her and if Ian can make them patch things up he could be rewarded with a threesome.

Cherry is unlikely, she's the reason Lena broke up with Axel. Lena also got mad at the end of the party when she saw her with Axel

 

[ffive]

Cherry is unlikely, she's the reason Lena broke up with Axel. Lena also got mad at the end of the party when she saw her with Axel

Yeah, Lena would probably have more success convincing Ian to become a bottom for Axel, than Ian convincing Lena to a threesome with Cherry.

 

[fatpussy123]

Cherry is unlikely, she's the reason Lena broke up with Axel. Lena also got mad at the end of the party when she saw her with Axel

I agree that it'd be difficult, but I don't see there being no way there isn't a way to resolve their beef in any playthrough and Eva Kiss just abandoning that plot thread. Whether or not that then leads to a threesome is up in the air. Keep in mind Lena also would have never forgiven Axel a few chapters ago and now she can be out here cheating on Ian with Axel.

 

[ffive]

Keep in mind Lena also would have never forgiven Axel a few chapters ago and now she can be out here cheating on Ian with Axel.

Lena hasn't exactly forgiven Axel, she's sexually and emotionally addicted to him and is (optionally) unable to break out of it and from his manipulations and influence. That is absolutely not a case for Lena and Cherry.

 

[bleachedturtle]

Idea for Ian/Lena/Jeremy 3some: what if just before the MMA tournament, Lena can offer the "winner" a reward? Now there are stakes to whether Ian wins or loses against Jeremy. Then, depending on Lena's stats, or Ian's apprehensiveness, she can decide whether or not she goes through with it.
Could be fun though

 

[Doppelgang]

Yes, but the game pretty specifically makes it mutually exclusive for Lena to have sex with Jeremy and be in relationship with Ian. I don't know what's Eva's reason for this, but making an exception for this for a threesome when prohibiting it otherwise would feel rather counter-intuitive to me.

I mean, with Holly, which has somewhat similar arrangement with route blocking, we have Lena repeatedly acknowledge this and narrate her reasoning. And we have lena_go_holly variable to track Lena's interest in Holly, even if she holds herself back. But with Jeremy there's no such thing, if Lena enters relationship with Ian then she basically acts as if nothing she did with Jeremy ever happened, there is no further interactions and she doesn't spare him any thoughts. So going from this to "hey, how about a threesome" would be a bit weird.

Yeah, I agree that all of that counts against it. Maybe Eva just considered it too early in Lena’s development to have a relationship with Ian and be sexually involved with Jeremy. But in that case you’d think Lena would spare a thought for Jeremy’s dick among all the other cheating she could’ve been up to.

Still, who else would it be? Axel: Too toxicly proud to be the third wheel. Would be too messy for Lena to even suggest it. Robert: Is obsessed with Lena, but Ian hates him, Lena doesn’t need a threesome as an “excuse” to fuck him, and most players would find it a big disappointment. Mike: As long as he’s not Gillian’s bf, Ian might have accepted it, but why would Lena or Mike do it if they could just continue their current affair? Perry: Would be super weird in many ways. Wade: Absolutely not, also he’s come across as almost asexual so far. Seymour: Absolutely not. Stan: Would be an extraordinary way to take his virginity, but no. Seymour: Absolutely not. The rest of the male cast: Too peripheral.

I guess Mike, and to a lesser extent Axel, could be possible with some kind of buildup, at least involving some interior monologue on Lena’s part where she goes through her preferences. But with Jeremy that buildup could already be done: The constantly horny Jeremy loves Lena; Lena is obsessed with the XXL sized dildo attached to his body; and Ian could have that awkward obsession with looking at Jeremy fucking women he’s sexually attracted to.

 

[ffive]

I guess Mike, and to a lesser extent Axel, could be possible with some kind of buildup, at least involving some interior monologue on Lena’s part where she goes through her preferences. But with Jeremy that buildup could already be done: The constantly horny Jeremy loves Lena; Lena is obsessed with the XXL sized dildo attached to his body; and Ian could have that awkward obsession with looking at Jeremy fucking women he’s sexually attracted to.

Hmm yes, when you put it like this then i have to agree that Jeremy is kind of best established potential candidate after Mike*, given how little buildup there's for the others.

Oh, and there's one more possible candidate -- Mark. He can potentially get in touch with Lena in Ch.11 Prologue asking if she's interested in more fun and he doesn't have any bad history with Ian (that Ian is aware of, at least)

Mike: As long as he’s not Gillian’s bf, Ian might have accepted it, but why would Lena or Mike do it if they could just continue their current affair?

I think Lena would be inclined to arrange such thing for the simple and very same reason guys like the idea of FMF threesomes -- because getting fucked by two people is even more fun than fucking one.

Plus, maybe for the sick thrill of fucking the guy she's been cheating on her bf with right in front of said boyfriend and without him knowing about this little detail. Probably not unlike why Axel had arranged his threesome with Cherry and Lena even if he, too, could've just kept fucking Cherry in secret.

And, of course, there's always option that Lena stopped seeing Mike after getting in relationship with Ian, and this is a chance for her to get another piece of that, without cheating on Ian.

*) and after Perry, ofc

 

[dundun]

Do you know what the conditions are for the "and another guy" path? I'm assuming Lena has to choose threesome with two guys as a kink, rather than with two girls (though it sounds like also the last kink is active here), but does it also depend on some variable in their relationship?

There is not really an "another guy" option. Lena only suggests that if she rejects the idea of a threesome. And yes it depends on her choosing "threesome with 2 guys" at Ivy's party. I think Ian always reacting disgusted is king of a writing error if he just did the threesome with Alison and Jeremy though. So I think this threesome will always be FFM.

… It will also be interesting to see who the possible participants will be. In an FFM threesome my guess would be Ivy or Emma (I think everyone would be up for it—Ivy depending on her impression of Ian so far). Or alternatively Holly, but if the end goal is a relationship between the three of them, it might be more natural with some more emotional development before they jump straight to a threesome.

In an FMM threesome I guess the obvious candidate is Jeremy? Axel and Robert seem unlikely for different reasons, while Mike might not be out of the question. But if he can have fun with Lena alone, I doubt he'd be up for having Ian there too. Jeremy would jump at the possibility, probably Lena too, while Ian would go along for the same slightly ambivalent reasons he could say yes to the threesome with Alison, as well as watching all of Jeremy's videos.

I also think the choosing will be done by Lena. I agree on your choices, the obvious choice would be Ivy, her bestie who is definitely up for it. Emma is friendly with both of them and also open for everything. If Holly is under Ivy's spell she should be open for it, too. She is into Ian after all. It could be a way to save her from Ivy and get her into the everyone's favorite throuple. You overlooked Louise, if she is Lena's sub she is also an ovious option.
If the FMM becomes an option, yes to Jeremy and Mark.
I would rule out completely Alison, Cindy, Axel, Robert as they don't like to share, Cherry for obvious reasons and Stan who is way to shy for that.

Yes, but the game pretty specifically makes it mutually exclusive for Lena to have sex with Jeremy and be in relationship with Ian. I don't know what's Eva's reason for this, but making an exception for this for a threesome when prohibiting it otherwise would feel rather counter-intuitive to me.

I mean, with Holly, which has somewhat similar arrangement with route blocking, we have Lena repeatedly acknowledge this and narrate her reasoning. And we have lena_go_holly variable to track Lena's interest in Holly, even if she holds herself back. But with Jeremy there's no such thing, if Lena enters relationship with Ian then she basically acts as if nothing she did with Jeremy ever happened, there is no further interactions and she doesn't spare him any thoughts. So going from this to "hey, how about a threesome" would be a bit weird.

I think the reason for that is just to make it simpler. Being in a relationship with Ian while having sex with Jeremy is complicated. Does she continue it? Does she breaks it off? Does she become weak and fall for him again? What happens if it comes out? Definitely interesting but a hell to write. She is doing it now with Mike which is more believable and easier as Ian doesn't know Mike.
So why wouldn't a Lena who didn't go for Jeremy suggest him? If he broke up with Louise, of course.

 

[ddBlueball123]

Anybody got a full save, my saves got deleted by mistake.. would be much appreciated.

 

[ffive]

So why wouldn't a Lena who didn't go for Jeremy suggest him? If he broke up with Louise, of course.

Lena who didn't go for Jeremy (who broke up with Louise) is very cold towards Jeremy, it borders on dislike. So i don't think he'd be her pick for a threesome in such setup. If they did have some earlier interactions, like others suggested, then it's probably a bit more likely.

 

[dundun]

Lena who didn't go for Jeremy (who broke up with Louise) is very cold towards Jeremy, it borders on dislike. So i don't think he'd be her pick for a threesome in such setup. If they did have some earlier interactions, like others suggested, then it's probably a bit more likely.

Really now? When? If you hook her on BBC or at least keep their relationship over 3 she is perfectly friendly to him. Also you don't have to tell Louise about his advances towards Ivy, then you get Ivy's party where you can break them up by not sucking him off.

 

[ffive]

Really now? When? If you hook her on BBC or at least keep their relationship over 3 she is perfectly friendly to him.

Spoiler: This is the tone Lena takes with Jeremy in Chapter 5:

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Spoiler: And this is what she thinks of him in Chapter 6:

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Spoiler: In Chapter 7:

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Perhaps our ideas of perfectly friendly differ a little