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Question: I haven't been lurking on here much after the release of Chapter 11 but has anyone genuinely liked this update?
I thought the update was solid. A bit underwhelming compared to the excellent Chapter 10 because there was little story progression and some scenes that felt like a retread. Also, little to no Ivy or Minerva on Ian's part was a bummer, especially since I thought the scene Ivy had with Ian was the perfect opportunity to get the ball rolling on that path.
 

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There's at least the possibility. It's an old thought of mine that there could be something deeper to Ivy's feelings for Lena. When it comes down to it, Lena is her only social contact that doesn't depend on sex or materialism.

If anything though I think it might be subconscious, maybe Ivy doesn't realise she feels lonely? She does sometimes come off as having a bit of tunnel-vision when it comes to her desires, evidenced how Axel made a fool of her in regards to Wildcats despite her knowing very well that he isn't a dude that keeps his promises.
That was exactly my thoughts on first playthrough of ORS about IVY. She is kinda keeping herself reserved from getting any kinda attachment/commitment emotionally and she just lives on edge that's the life she is living continuously. Her behavior towards Lena is on more emotional level but she just flips/goes extreme sometimes not in order to hurt Lena but out of habit.

EDIt: LIKE SOME DEFENCE MECHANISM
 
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My opinion is : by producing a game that is more "intellectual" than GGGB, EK satisfies only a part of her fans ; and (as myself) the ones who don't speak fluent english are lost... I will take a look at the game when it will be completed, but i don't expect to really enjoy the final result (even GGGB could have more interesting endings).
 

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You might be right but it can be like this too
I feel when he talks about "that person" he means it as "that dude you cheated on me with (whoever he is)". In fact, if Ian knew the guy's identity then it makes little sense his name never comes up, in the dream in this chapter nor anywhere else -- it's always just "The Guy" or "he", even if it'd be natural for Gillian in Ian's dream to refer to him by name,
It just that when people take emotionally massive hit they tend to indirectly approach those things. Some people I watched around show this exact behavior referring to the person the one their partner cheated with as "that one" etc. Even Gillian mention him as Her boyfriend and not mentions his name(check how she talks about him).

for Ian questioning Jeremy to simply ask "was she with X" than the roundabout way he goes about it. Lena, who is in similar situation, has no trouble with calling Cherry "Cherry", instead of only ever "that girl".
Jeremy gives impression that he doesn't know the one Gillian cheated with. Ian also gives this impression many times that Ian didn't discussed details with anyone before and just kept things in closet. this might be reason that Jeremy doesn't know him otherwise he would have said so to lessen the damage he done by not telling Ian that Gillian is back.

Cherry was introduced way before to Ian and Lena came clean a bit later but Lena is more open than Ian so her rage is what pushed her to share her ideas.

* Lena can share her thoughts with Ivy at least Ian doesn't have that otherwise Ian would've shared his thoughts with Perry, Wade, Emma or Jeremy.

EK also had gone to lengths to keep his Identity hidden.
 
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I wonder if Jess is going to get some sex scenes soon. Maybe not the good Jess but the bad one definitely should have some in the future.
 

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I feel when he talks about "that person" he means it as "that dude you cheated on me with (whoever he is)". In fact, if Ian knew the guy's identity then it makes little sense his name never comes up, in the dream in this chapter nor anywhere else -- it's always just "The Guy" or "he", even if it'd be natural for Gillian in Ian's dream to refer to him by name, or for Ian questioning Jeremy to simply ask "was she with X" than the roundabout way he goes about it. Lena, who is in similar situation, has no trouble with calling Cherry "Cherry", instead of only ever "that girl".
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This conversation goes both way
1) Your take (Ian doesn't know the guy)
2) My take (Ian knows but kept it to himself only)
 
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It's possible it's just Eva trying to hide the character name. It doesn't really make sense not to use the name, because any normal person would speak in a way to avoid using the name that way when it's easier to just say the name. Unless he has violent flashbacks when he hears the name. But some writers use convoluted speech arrangement like that, so it's not impossible that it's just Eva trying to avoid it.

However, I think the biggest indicator that he doesn't know who it is, is the fact that Ian and Mike can be in same scene outside the club after Ivy's birthday, but Ian never comments on Mike's presence, not even later when he's alone. So either he doesn't know who it is, or if he does, it's not Mike.
 

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Chapter 11 BETA is out, and Cameo spots open
Chapter 11 Beta is finally out! Thanks to everyone who helped us spot and report the bugs. All major issues should be ironed out now, but some small fixes and implementations will be added in the Full release. I also want to expand a couple scenes slightly, but the chapter is already solid and ready to be played.
This chapter features +100 new, full color illustrations, with many variations and some animations, making up a total of 450 new images. Also, some new sprites and outfits for the cast, as well as a ton of new music: +10 new tracks that add or replace music for the soundtrack of the game, making it more varied. There's also more new features and improvements, check them out !



Also, there's a couple spots open for cameo appearance in the epilogue of Chapter 11 that will be released shortly. Ideally, I'm looking for one male and one female character cameo, but if you're interested contact me via PM (better through Discord). Join the cast of patrons that have their likeness immortalized in-game!
 

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Chapter 11 BETA is out, and Cameo spots open
Chapter 11 Beta is finally out! Thanks to everyone who helped us spot and report the bugs. All major issues should be ironed out now, but some small fixes and implementations will be added in the Full release. I also want to expand a couple scenes slightly, but the chapter is already solid and ready to be played.
This chapter features +100 new, full color illustrations, with many variations and some animations, making up a total of 450 new images. Also, some new sprites and outfits for the cast, as well as a ton of new music: +10 new tracks that add or replace music for the soundtrack of the game, making it more varied. There's also more new features and improvements, check them out !



Also, there's a couple spots open for cameo appearance in the epilogue of Chapter 11 that will be released shortly. Ideally, I'm looking for one male and one female character cameo, but if you're interested contact me via PM (better through Discord). Join the cast of patrons that have their likeness immortalized in-game!
So Gus is just a cameo? I thought he would be in Holly route.
 

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It just that when people take emotionally massive hit they tend to indirectly approach those things. Some people I watched around show this exact behavior referring to the person the one their partner cheated with as "that one" etc. Even Gillian mention him as Her boyfriend and not mentions his name(check how she talks about him).
I know some people will do that, but this is generally a conscious thing. That's why i mentioned the dream sequence -- it's where you'd expect the artificial self-restraints to no longer apply, and if Ian knew the name of the guy, then Gillian in his dream could be expected to say it at least once.

Actual Gillian (not the one in Ian's dream) only mentions her boyfriend once in their entire conversation. And yes, she refers to him as "my boyfriend" but this makes more sense if Ian doesn't know the name of the guy (perhaps because he doesn't want to know) -- because in such case mentioning him by name could just lead to some sort of "eh, who?" or similar unnecessary slowdown.

So... yeah. I'd say both options are possible, but the one where Ian simply doesn't know the guy's identity is simpler, and also explains complete lack of reaction if the guy in question actually is Mike. So personally, i'll roll with it for now.
 

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I know some people will do that, but this is generally a conscious thing. That's why i mentioned the dream sequence -- it's where you'd expect the artificial self-restraints to no longer apply, and if Ian knew the name of the guy, then Gillian in his dream could be expected to say it at least once.

Actual Gillian (not the one in Ian's dream) only mentions her boyfriend once in their entire conversation. And yes, she refers to him as "my boyfriend" but this makes more sense if Ian doesn't know the name of the guy (perhaps because he doesn't want to know) -- because in such case mentioning him by name could just lead to some sort of "eh, who?" or similar unnecessary slowdown.

So... yeah. I'd say both options are possible, but the one where Ian simply doesn't know the guy's identity is simpler, and also explains complete lack of reaction if the guy in question actually is Mike. So personally, i'll roll with it for now.
I agree then it also raise the question who told Ian if Ian didn't catch them or some other scenario. How does Ian know she cheated did she confessed in guilt(could be but highly obnoxious) or someone told Ian.
 

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How does Ian know she cheated did she confessed in guilt(could be but highly obnoxious) or someone told Ian.
If i understand it right, Gillian broke up with Ian telling him that she's been seeing someone else behind his back and wants to be with that new guy. It was after spending some time apart, and while Ian was expecting her to move to Baluart and continue living with him.

Whether her affair started after Ian left for Baluart or was going on earlier, it's currently unclear.
 
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