I think it's rather feeble myself. Props for at least putting on a token resistance I guess, but that Lena can tempt him to break it anyway just makes him appear pathetic to me. If he could reject her wholly in that scene, regardless of what the player does, I think that'd really show him in a different light, even if Lena could later on in the story "bludgeon" him into sexual surrender
Likely true. But for now all the other routes that include some form or another of corrupting her (which is most of them) got more palpable results and seem at least somewhat more could-be-real-life kind of believable.
That just means Jeremy is also not dogmatic but an open-minded and reasonable person who can be swayed by good argument
Yes, to me it'd show him in the same light as Perry, little cranky sourpuss constantly kvetching bro code this and bro code that, so i don't think this would be change for the better. :vIf he could reject her wholly in that scene, regardless of what the player does, I think that'd really show him in a different light, even if Lena could later on in the story "bludgeon" him into sexual surrender
It shouldn't. I have no issue with the player having the option to go after him and continuing to do so. I'd even find him more enticing to chase myself if he couldn't fold the very first time you try.
I would agree, but the bro-code is one Jeremy claims to abide by himself. If he didn't make the big speech about it first I wouldn't blame him for failing to uphold it either.
I don't think I understand what you are arguing here, can you explain?
I disagree with this. If a friend says he has romantic feelings for someone then it should be understood that that someone is off limits. If it's not romantic, like how Jeremy talks up Ivy, then it's different. I don't think it's removing the person agency, it's just using your own agency to not be the person that slept with a friend's crush/romantic prospect, if the person then wants to still use their agency to see other people who are not your friend, they can do that, but you don't have to be involved with that. Also, it takes quite a while for Jeremy to come clean, even if he does clearly feel guilty about it.
I don't really view it from the perspective of the player here, but Jeremy himself -- i think that the fact he doesn't hold out longer is actually in his favor, instead of against him. It's pretty much what i'd expect a normal human do in such situation, so this realism makes him a better character (not better as in more virtuous, obv., the other better)
Fair, but we can just as well blame Lena and Ian for a lot of their actions after they make big speeches about how bad it feels to be cheated on, etc. I don't think too many people hate on themselves for this hypocrisy in playing their Lena and/or Ian in such manner, and think less of these characters, as they blame Jeremy for his giving in.
It's just optics -- Perry's frequently yapping and chastising his friends for even noting that a friend's girlfriend is woman, let alone a sexy one, "because bro code" is really annoying. So if i saw Jeremy staunchly and quite unreasonably imo refuse Lena to the bitter end "because bro code" it'd make him appear less like a character he tries to be (a laid-back skirt chaser) and more like Perry with his bro code obsession. And one Perry is more than enough.
thanks good sir. posted my first reply just to thank you.
What if you also have romantic feelings for that someone? What if that friend of yours happens to be a guy who "has romantic feelings" for every other woman you two meet? What if Jeremy was the one who told Ian he's got romantic feelings for Lena, how many players do you think would turn down her persistent advances towards them out of respect for their bro's feelings? Or even refrain from pursuing her themselves? (ohai Cindy)
