Ragnar

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The response on her patreon was pretty clear, the limit of "weeks" is something you just made up.

To be honest this seems somewhat absurd to me. She shouldn't develop her story in fear of offending people with controversy.
You're right of course but some developers are very sensitive to criticism, more when they intend to launch their game on Steam and want to avoid controversy or hot topics.
 

Vernalcash

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This chapter is supposed to be big though, isn't it? Playing several hours with Ian and then with Lena might ruin the flow of the game
How? Chapter 9 was pretty big and you play as Ian first then switch to Lena and the flow was just fine.
 

lockerxx

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Hi guys,

After my week off I've kept working at chapter 10 and I'm almost done with Ian's part. All that's left is to finish a couple scenes and revise everything, adding and correcting when needed. The art's all drawn and I've been editing the colored versions, producing some of the final illustrations.

As I keep trying to push the pace, manage all the aspects of the project and the business and keep the final quality to the standard you're used to, I struggle between taking my time and rushing, and as you know, I always feel like I'm lagging behind. My goal is to provide the best game I can, but also to keep you entertained with content, and I hate feeling I'm taking too long.

Some of you suggested in the past that I could release the chapters in two separate blocks, since Ian and Lena have parallel story lines. It's not the way I envisioned it, but you guys deserve some content and I've decided that's the way I'll do it for Chapter 10. This way you'll be able to play Ian's part of the chapter during August, and I can also share with you the results of all the work that we've been doing during these past weeks.

I'll finish writing everything this week and keep working on finalizing the art, then all that's left would be to playtest and iron out all the bugs. Hopefully you can enjoy all the new scenes and story developments, and Lena's part should be coming shortly after.

Thanks again for your support and I hope you'll enjoy what's coming :)

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this is only for Chapter 10 or is the new format?
 

dontcarewhateverno

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There wasn't a single rule dictating logic behind POV switches, it's decided by the plotlines featured in each chapter. Only Chapters 2, 3, 4, 7, and 8 have multiple switches. Chapters 1, 5, 6, and 9 have entire Ian's POV followed by Lena's POV until the end of the chapter. You can even count Chapter 2 as a linear Ian-to-Lena switch because the last Ian's POV part had nothing to do with Lena's decisions (aside from a couple of lines here and there referencing how their date went) and is mostly about meeting with Alison and Cherry. As a rule, it's very rare when Ian has to deal with Lena's decisions in the same chapter. Most often Ian starts the actual choices that impact the chapter, and then Lena reacts to them. Ian mostly reacts to Lena's choices that come from previous chapters.
Ah. That makes sense. I know both Ian and Lena's choices affected each other's paths in the same chapter from remembering various chapter's playthroughs, but didn't realize not all chapters worked that way. You'd know best, having worked on the guide for so long.
 

lipe2410

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then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.
Since the beginning this game has a setup for cuckold with Ian being able to ask Jeremy for photos/videos of him (Jeremy) fucking Alison if players choose it. Not my thing by far, that's why i avoid it, but you rant against "cuck stuff" in a game that already have it doesn't make much sense.
 

neutral1

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The thing that I imagine could be counterproductive for Eva with releasing Ian's part first and then Lena's part is that she might find when she is working on Lena's part of the story that she might have a new idea and want to change something on Ian's side of the story as the two go hand in hand. If she has already released Ian's part, it limits her ability to be able to make these changes unless of course she does another remaster or makes these changes in the final release of the chapter. I fear this release structure she has proposed will interfere with her creative process and put further restrictions on her writing and development of the chapters in the future. I hope I am wrong, but I think having the creative freedoms and fluidity to make changes to the writing of the chapter anytime before the chapter release is important for the writer's vision of the project, especially for someone like Eva who many have said use the gardening method in her writing.
The cynic in me sees an Ian update in the same cycle - alpha/beta/final? But before Lena's section comes out, there will be an Ian rewrite release.
 

evilkitty97

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I love Netori(taking others' partner).
Cindy in this game's case is the Netori path.
An amazing plus too because she is truly gorgeous and slender. Not much slender beauties in the game, unlike GGGB.

Dont know about you guys, but Ian isnt technically a cuckold in the game yet.
Because he isnt officially a thing with anyone.
Except that last part with Lena.

I wish there was a path wherein you dont have to do the photoshoot in order to be with Cindy, that was one hell of a chaotic mix of Netori and Netorase(sharing), which got me confused AF.

In fact, everything is mixed up in the game.
The relationships, the feelings, the kinks.
Its not as simple and direct as GGGB is.
 

Eye-switcher

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To be fair we don't know what end result of the split is going to be, i doubt even the developer knows yet.
It might work out just fine, but end result is still an unfinished update and more delays.
Looking at the whole picture from the revamp (like it or not, worth it or not) until the unfinished split its really alooot of waiting which makes the whole game suffer and the developer to loose goodwill. Don't know if it hurts financially as her supporters seem to pay no matter what but in a lot of other businesses it certainly would.
 

Badboll

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I don't really see how releasing Ian's part first is supposed to go in the way of fluidity
I don't think it will when everything is released. I don't see how that would happen.
Sure I'd rather have an alpha of the whole chapter at once, but I don't mind a part 1 earlier and a part 2 later.
I'm still probably getting the whole chapter 10 when I was supposed to anyway.
I mean getting her supporters some content earlier is by no means bad for her financially I don't think.
Even if most of the comments i saw on patreon said they'd rather she release everything at once.
It gets tough to release in a timely manner when you go full chapters at once. Especially when they get bigger. Which is why most devs don't and when they have and change to smaller updates the game suffers for some reason. (The Adventurous Couple is one that comes to mind)
 
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TheBigWater

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why you cuck guys want put cuck stuff in every game.
NTR fans, like Jehovah's Witnesses, run from one thread to another and promote their weird stuff where they are not expected and not welcome:LOL: :sick:
Oh, IDK, Probably for the same reason you want the things you like in a game. TO JERK OFF TO IT!

Seriously. Its not rocket surgery around here.
then go play the cuck games, don't try to turn every game into a cuck game.
Does it mean playing sex games or watching porn is making people cuck? Because you are not the one that you are fcking, you are the one that's watching it.
I mean i know what you wanted to say guys but in my save Lena is not with Ian so i can't see where "cuck" theme is there. In my playthrough Ian is with Holly and is "brother from another mother" with Jeremy. If i had a chance to send to Jeremy video where Ian is fcking Holly i would do that for my bro Jeremy because he did the same for me lol. There are already scene's where Jeremy is sending Alison pics to Ian. I don't understand why it's okay but if that would be Lena it's not okay
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Does it mean playing sex games or watching porn is making people cuck? Because you are not the one that you are fcking, you are the one that's watching it.
I mean i know what you wanted to say guys but in my save Lena is not with Ian so i can't see where "cuck" theme is there. In my playthrough Ian is with Holly and is "brother from another mother" with Jeremy. If i had a chance to send to Jeremy video where Ian is fcking Holly i would do that for my bro Jeremy because he did the same for me lol. There are already scene's where Jeremy is sending Alison pics to Ian. I don't understand why it's okay but if that would be Lena it's not okay
Here I partially agree with you, the path with Jeremy that you described is not cuckold, it's more like "sharing girls for sex". They are friends with benefits, but not couples.
We all know the definition of a cuckold. A man who gives his wife/girlfriend to other men and enjoys it. The psychology of considering cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism when a cuckold takes pleasure in humiliation. At the same time, unlike "open relationships", cuck doesn't have the right to have affairs with other women.
I want to say right away - I have nothing against games that have a cuckold theme - I just bypass them. If there is an optional NTR in the game (in the understanding of the cuck, I don’t mind stealing someone else’s girl) - I will bypass it. Judging by the reactions to my post, which turned out to be controversial.
I wrote about some individuals who love this genre. They are really too intrusive and love to get into the thread with their fantasies "I want to watch Lena get fucked by Axel, Ian looks, jerks off and can't do anything" It's a little creepy and weird, isn't it? [Louise Mod Activated]
At the moment, there is no full-fledged NTR cuckolding for Ian in the game. But knowing Eva, she will most likely add this.
 
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