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Was any reason given for Billy turning white?
IIRC not really, but likely this exact factor you complain about -- so that he wouldn't be "just a hollow vehicle for bbc fetish" stereotypically lusting after girls and getting them into gang bangs after inviting them to his villa for a party. Sorry, for a photo shoot.

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I think this is part of why I dislike Jeremy so much. He isn't a real character he's just a hollow vehicle for a bbc fetish.
Ironically, Jeremy has more depth than that: he's originally pretty geeky much like Ian and the rest of Ian's friends. He's only now trying to be "cool" and that's why he isn't really all that good at it and still a bit of a loser.

But of course it's something easy to just disregard if one is inclined to only view him as a hollow stereotype.
 
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I think this is part of why I dislike Jeremy so much. He isn't a real character he's just a hollow vehicle for a bbc fetish. Even Tyrone had something else going for him while also filling the same fetish and gggb was less grounded.
I don't think Jeremy had to be a totally bankrupt character, if Eva had written him to have some actual standards I'd be more sympathetic to him and his little trial of trying to be a playa.

For one he should have clarified his relationship with Louise instead of trying to have his cake and eat it too with her and Ivy, or at the very least he should do so at the players prompting it. Secondly he should not succumb to pressure and let Lena perform sexual services on him at the bottle-game when she's with Ian and ideally he should have carried a harsher tone with Ian after catching him with Cindy. I get that he's a friend, but not going after the ladies of your friends is a mantra he claims himself.

If Jeremy had lived up to his own idea of a what a "playa" is, I wouldn't find him so pathetic and be more inclined to play for his content, assuming that could have happened without it being at Louise's expense.

But at that point I'd be essentially dealing with a whole other character, I just don't get why other players find him an attractive prospect.
Was any reason given for Billy turning white?
I don't think there was a direct statement. But it happened right after Alison got the threesome with him and Jeremy, the player base was talking about it as Alison going on the BBC route that the Eva character had in GGGB and most took the change to mean that Eva wanted to discourage that impression.
Hopefully for the dev's next game she can do a black guy character better than just bbc fuel. And hopefully he isn't so stereotypical and isn't focused on rap, sports or the size of his penis.
I don't really mind if they partake in a kink like that, any potential future characters of African origin, but ideally there is more to them than just their race. People were kinda into Marcel/Holly because of the way he acted with her, they're on the surface a funny coupling, it was not just because he's black.
 
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I don't think Jeremy had to be a totally bankrupt character, if Eva had written him to have some actual standards I'd be more sympathetic to him and his little trial of trying to be a playa.

For one he should have clarified his relationship with Louise instead of trying to have his cake and eat it too with her and Ivy, or at the very least he should at least do so at the players prompting it. Secondly he should not succumb to pressure and let Lena perform sexual services on him at the bottle-game when she's with Ian and ideally he should have carried a harsher tone with Ian after catching him with Cindy. I get that he's a friend, but not going after the ladies of your friends is a mantra he claims himself.

If Jeremy had lived up to his own idea of a what a "playa" is, I wouldn't find him so pathetic and be more inclined to play for his content, assuming that could have happened without it being at Louise's expense.

But at that point I'd be essentially dealing with a whole other character, I just don't get why other players find him an attractive prospect.

I don't think there was a direct statement. But it happened right after Alison got the threesome with him and Jeremy, the player base was talking about it as Alison going on the BBC route that the Eva character had in GGGB and most took the change to mean that Eva wanted to discourage that impression.

I don't really mind if they partake in a kink like that, any potential future characters of African origin, but ideally there is more to them than just their race. People were kinda into Marcel/Holly because of the way he acted with her, they're on the surface a funny coupling, it was not just because he's black.
Jeremy's constant hounding of Alison was extremely annoying but his treatment of Louise was the final straw for me caring about him. If he doesn’t want to settle down I'm fine with that but lying to a girl in order to sleep with her made him scum in my eyes.

So the bbc fetishist are what caused Billy to be reworked? If that's true then it's disappointing and nonsensical to me. I still don't get why the dev would care about that interpretation since the people on that path aren't interested in Alison's romance in the first place so I don't see the problem.

Holly/Marcel is an interesting pairing due to their contrasts. I can see the relationship working out well in a non Lena/Holly route.

I have no problem if a character has a bbc or whatever I just want a well written character that isn't a stereotype where the bbc isn't their only point.
 

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Axel/Cindy is possible but Jeremy not so much because she has a diva personality and wants someone who can give her things besides good sex and let's be honest in addition to a big cock, he has nothing else to offer that's why even Allison who has sex with He only sees it as sex, if Jeremy had a better personality and a better economic position he would be an option for Cindy:unsure:
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is the first picture from a game? if so, what game?
 

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Jeremy's constant hounding of Alison was extremely annoying but his treatment of Louise was the final straw for me caring about him. If he doesn’t want to settle down I'm fine with that but lying to a girl in order to sleep with her made him scum in my eyes.

So the bbc fetishist are what caused Billy to be reworked? If that's true then it's disappointing and nonsensical to me. I still don't get why the dev would care about that interpretation since the people on that path aren't interested in Alison's romance in the first place so I don't see the problem.

Holly/Marcel is an interesting pairing due to their contrasts. I can see the relationship working out well in a non Lena/Holly route.

I have no problem if a character has a bbc or whatever I just want a well written character that isn't a stereotype where the bbc isn't their only point.
Jeremy, in what has to do with his plot arc, does not have something that stands out like Mike to give an example and in the case of Marcel/Holly he would have to have more space within the story to get to know Marcel better because for now he I see it as a variant for Jeremy on Lena's NTR route without much weight besides his big cock :unsure: :cool:
 

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Secondly he should not succumb to pressure and let Lena perform sexual services on him at the bottle-game when she's with Ian and ideally he should have carried a harsher tone with Ian after catching him with Cindy. I get that he's a friend, but not going after the ladies of your friends is a mantra he claims himself.
Real bros call out their bros when they fuck up. He similarly does not take a harsh tone with Ian if he cheats on Lena with Alison but tries to be a "bro" if Lena's the one who's cheating. Fucking prick in every sense of the word.
 

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Axel/Cindy is possible but Jeremy not so much because she has a diva personality and wants someone who can give her things besides good sex and let's be honest in addition to a big cock, he has nothing else to offer that's why even Allison who has sex with He only sees it as sex, if Jeremy had a better personality and a better economic position he would be an option for Cindy:unsure:
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God, that Super Girl art is so pretty
 

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God, that Super Girl art is so pretty
I wouldn't mind seeing scenes Cindy have sex with Jeremy or Marcel or both at the same time but the possibility of it happening is slim, I think Holly :unsure:/Ivy (2026) has a better chance of happening, for now Emma/Lena/Allison are the ones who they have bbc sex in ORS :unsure:

It's good that you liked them (y)
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I wouldn't mind seeing scenes Cindy have sex with Jeremy or Marcel or both at the same time but the possibility of it happening is slim, I think Holly :unsure:/Ivy (2026) has a better chance of happening, for now Emma/Lena/Allison are the ones who they have bbc sex in ORS :unsure:

It's good that you liked them (y)
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Yeah, Alison and Lena seems to be the dedicated BBC whores; Alison even has the "bimbofication" thing going alongside breeding kink. I'm just surprised neither of them is a blondie (I guess Alison is now).
 
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Don't give up hope. Cindy WILL be BLACKED and she'll realize how stupid she is for entertaining the puny white dicks of Wade, Ian, and Axel.
Wade has an enormous dick. Why do you think Cindy is still with him? He has no job, they have no common interests and they always fight. Makeup sex though? That makes everything worth it.
 
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BlandChili

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So the bbc fetishist are what caused Billy to be reworked? If that's true then it's disappointing and nonsensical to me. I still don't get why the dev would care about that interpretation since the people on that path aren't interested in Alison's romance in the first place so I don't see the problem.
That's just the impression she made with the change, only Eva knows for sure.

I guess she just wanted to avoid people latching on a kink to a specific character. The way discussions were going then was something like "Jeremy+Alison+Billy=BBC kink, therefore Billy alone=BBC Kink, therefore Billy+Lena+Ivy=BBC Kink" so it could be that the change was made more in relation to the coming Billy route, rather than any concerns for Alison's content.

Eva might have something specific in mind for Billy and was surprised when people started assuming his route would be all about BBC kink.
 

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That's just the impression she made with the change, only Eva knows for sure.

I guess she just wanted to avoid people latching on a kink to a specific character. The way discussions were going then was something like "Jeremy+Alison+Billy=BBC kink, therefore Billy alone=BBC Kink, therefore Billy+Lena+Ivy=BBC Kink" so it could be that the change was made more in relation to the coming Billy route, rather than any concerns for Alison's content.

Eva might have something specific in mind for Billy and was surprised when people started assuming his route would be all about BBC kink.
Instead we got Marcel BBC kink
 
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