Princess Groundhog

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And I want Lena on a throne with Cindy + Alison + Emma + Holly + Louise + Ivy + Gillian kneeling around her and tending to her needs... o_O

Alas we can't always get our ideal Lena Queenship endings when we want them... :cry:
I just want a redhead harem for Lena with Holly, Louise, and Gillian. The red holy trinity!

And Gillian better come back!!!
 

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I would prefer Holly, Ivy and Emma. Louise is too clingy for my taste but i can let her stay just so all four can wear collars with Lena's name letters on it. :LOL::LOL:
If I were to claim a threesome or foursome Lena'd have at least Holly and Cindy. Not sure about fourth member, probably Emma, though I'd go for Louise if she is a compliant enough pet-girl and doesn't get jealous of the other girls! :ROFLMAO:
Wait, is Holly a redhead?
Supposedly. In some scenes her hair colour seems to switch between redder and browner from frame to frame.
 
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I mean I get it they are the two Main Characters and most likely they will be endgame in the "canon" ending but I still hope there are other ways to end the Game with different outcomes for both of them.
If Ian and Lena were to end up together in the end regardless of player input I'd honestly write Eva and kindly ask for my money back.
I fully agree, but isn’t this an extremely hypothetical scenario? The game did admittedly push the Ian/Lena relationship a lot at the beginning, and still does to some extent, but the amount of branching and variables makes me think we’ll likely see more potential endings than in GGGB rather than fewer.

Restricting the potential outcomes of the game because there’s two – potentially romantically involved – protagonists, would represent a very, very poor handling of the story, and I absolutely can’t see a writer as talented as Eva doing that.
 

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I fully agree, but isn’t this an extremely hypothetical scenario? The game did admittedly push the Ian/Lena relationship a lot at the beginning, and still does to some extent, but the amount of branching and variables makes me think we’ll likely see more potential endings than in GGGB rather than fewer.

Restricting the potential outcomes of the game because there’s two – potentially romantically involved – protagonists, would represent a very, very poor handling of the story, and I absolutely can’t see a writer as talented as Eva doing that.
Agreed, I was just entertaining the notion with a more comparably opposing response, I don't actually believe that Eva would ever make Ian/Lena the only outcome.

I don't know if she keeps to specific philosophy in games design, but given GGGB I think it's safe to assume for now that she agrees that player choice is part of the allure of this form of media content. I mean, if she just wanted to write "the adventures of Lena and Ian and how they eventually get married and have tons of babies" she could just have made a comic or filmed a porn movie. :giggle:

I think despite her hardships with juggling the various narrative branches she finds it fun to develop the game. No need to worry about very harsh restrictions as long as she has the enthusiasm to keep on with her current style.
 
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Agreed, I was just entertaining the notion with a more comparably opposing response, I don't actually believe that Eva would ever make Ian/Lena the only outcome.

I don't know if she keeps to specific philosophy in games design, but given GGGB I think it's safe to assume for now that she agrees that player choice is part of the allure of this form of media content. I mean, if she just wanted to write "the adventures of Lena and Ian and how they eventually get married and have tons of babies" she could just have made a comic or filmed a porn movie. :giggle:

I think despite her hardships with juggling the various narrative branches she finds it fun to develop the game. No need to worry about very harsh restrictions as long as she has the enthusiasm to keep on with her current style.
Haha, yeah, that story would’ve been a very limited version of Eva’s usual universe.

I like playing Lena and Ian as a couple more than a lot of others do. Not so much because of that straighforward monogamous alternative, but more because I’m interested to see how controlling them both would influence their different routes in the future. I think there will be a bunch of different endings, but I also think it would make sense if Lena/Ian is the couple with the most different endings together.
 
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I wonder as well whether Lena and Holly is meant to be only wholesome hand-holding and snuggling romantic relationship, which I am here for, or could Lena actually use the collar on Holly and make her a sex-pet as well, like Louise.
Maybe that’s what you meant, but I hope for a combination as well. Collar and sex-pet, and then romantic snuggling afterwards, instead of throwing her out like with Louise.
 

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I wonder as well whether Lena and Holly is meant to be only wholesome hand-holding and snuggling romantic relationship, which I am here for, or could Lena actually use the collar on Holly and make her a sex-pet as well, like Louise.
That's where I'm hoping the change variable might play a role with Holly, and your decision in regards to sexing her with or without Ivy perhaps. Given that Lena can become submissive to Ian I have hard time imagining that Holly would be submissive in expression for all routes. Some polyamorous relationships do have tiers of submissiveness, but that kinda stuff is very pornographically niche so I wouldn't expect Eva to have a complex system for that sort of this.

Rather I wonder if Holly might have variations for her relationship to Lena and Ian alone. So she would have a set role for the hoped-for trio but perhaps an alternate option for each other monogamous routes?

Hard to tell, Louise already seemed rather submissive and desperate in her first scene with Lena. Lena/Holly seems more even in expression, like the romantic vibe would fit as you mention. There is some tone of domination in the Ivy/Lena/Holly scene though, so perhaps Holly could be a sub in a similar vein to Louise if there were to be a threesome route with Ivy? Hard to tell if that would remain strictly gay though, as Ivy is a very vocal supporter of the concept of "cock."
As with the tier-sub thing I'm not sure that I would expect Eva to portray lesbian sub harem like that, I would love it though! :ROFLMAO:
Haha, yeah, that story would’ve been a very limited version of Eva’s usual universe.

I like playing Lena and Ian as a couple more than a lot of others do. Not so much because of that straighforward monogamous alternative, but more because I’m interested to see how controlling them both would influence their different routes in the future. I think there will be a bunch of different endings, but I also think it would make sense if Lena/Ian is the couple with the most different endings together.
I don't know if this is very universal, but talking to people have actually given me the impression that they're mostly excited for all the side-content to Ian/Lena, like Holly inclusion, cheating and such. I have talked to very few people who were interested in keeping with the Lena/Ian relationship just for the sake of their own chemistry (which I personally see as the main draw of their pairing actually, despite not playing it myself).

I really hope Eva will reflect on how to utilise Lena and Ian as friends too. There was the hiccup with Cherry but otherwise I'd love to have scenes where Lena just hangs out with them too, maybe some double date stuff if relationships start getting cemented (we're talking potentially Jeremy/Louise Emma/Perry Wade/Cindy and Ian and Lena with each of their own relationships or each other).
Maybe that’s what you meant, but I hope for a combination as well. Collar and sex-pet, and then romantic snuggling afterwards, instead of throwing her out like with Louise.
Agreed, I'd like for an option like that with Louise too though. I prefer dom/sub themes with proper consensual attachments and I love aftercare, I do think the Lena/Louise scenes are hot in their own way, but I'm not sure I like how the relationship is expressed overall, how disregarding Lena seems towards a person that's supposed to be an old friend.
 
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Maybe that’s what you meant, but I hope for a combination as well. Collar and sex-pet, and then romantic snuggling afterwards, instead of throwing her out like with Louise.
Yes, no, of course. one does not preclude the other. Aftercare and snuggling after some rough play is the best! What I meant is that I hope a pure Holly route for Lena does not lock out kinky stuff.
 

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What I meant is that I hope a pure Holly route for Lena does not lock out kinky stuff.
Same, I'd love to let them get frisky in private. Holly's ability to be present in the sex shop gave me..... ideas.... Plus, she was not entirely innocent to things there, she was more aware of Lady Doubly Dildo than Lena were.
And that tail plug....... Hmm..
I just really hope it's not exclusive to the Ivy/change route. I wouldn't mind some restrictions, but it does annoy me slightly that it seems Ivy is the road to kinky-town, I'd like Lena to have a mind of her own towards this stuff too.
 

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I just really hope it's not exclusive to the Ivy/change route. I wouldn't mind some restrictions, but it does annoy me slightly that it seems Ivy is the road to kinky-town, I'd like Lena to have a mind of her own towards this stuff too.
That's where my question is coming from. I played both scenes, and while the threesome was super hot and Ivy teaming up with Lena to dominate cute little Holly is a very drenching possibility, I much preferred the cute love scene between just Lena and Holly.
 

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That's where my question is coming from. I played both scenes, and while the threesome was super hot and Ivy teaming up with Lena to dominate cute little Holly is a very drenching possibility, I much preferred the cute love scene between just Lena and Holly.
That can take place on the Ivy route too though, Holly/Lena is practically the same if you don't pick for the threesome. If you don't encourage pole-dancing you can only get Lena/Holly however.

Holly's presence (and relation) to the sex shop just doesn't happen unless you encourage the pole-dancing though, from there you have to make specific choices for Holly to not get a high change variable if you don't want it.
This is what makes me assume that any kinky-Holly route will be relegated to the Ivy version of her route, while Holly not becoming Ivy's direct friend means you can probably only do the vanilla romance?
 
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Does the new sex scenes make it worth to download this beta?
Depends on if you like the pairings, your investment with any given route, or your taste in porn. I was extremely happy with this update but that's because I always wanted Lena/Holly.

There's a lesbian threesome, some BBC content and a lesbian dom/sub scene. Some various sexting if that's your thing.
 
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