sztrb

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I think if anything is clear from all these discussions, it's that a decent chunk of the community still has some gripes with the way these scenes are handled currently, so I think it's likely that this section of the game will get another pass by Eva at some point in time. We've talked this point to death over the last week, so there isn't really anything else to do but wait and see where things go in the future.

In the mean time people should just enjoy playing chapter 8 since it's a great update overall!
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time”
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-Michael G. Scott

Yeah. As some pointed out, I imagine there's gonna be quite a bit of retconning the full product before the entire game is released, especially with her less-structured creation process. We'll have to anticipate delay in some chapter releases as Eva does this.
At least Eva's retcons have not broken down the whole character development... unlike some other devs... who are absolutely shambles. (Changing character sprites or when adding sex scenes basically make it impossible to get unless you start from scratch, because in fact an innocuous decision you made at the beginning of the game means you can't get an h-scene now). Y'all can guess which game that is...
 
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Okay I don't want to start a whole thing and forgive me for beating a possibly long-dead horse and or annoying people but can anyone tell me if the game is still worth it on a romance/non-NTR path? I've read a few posts here and there and I gather from there being two protags it's avoidable but I've also seen a few comments saying it makes the other paths not worth it and there are plenty a game with the same problem
 

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Okay I don't want to start a whole thing and forgive me for beating a possibly long-dead horse and or annoying people but can anyone tell me if the game is still worth it on a romance/non-NTR path? I've read a few posts here and there and I gather from there being two protags it's avoidable but I've also seen a few comments saying it makes the other paths not worth it and there are plenty a game with the same problem
Yes. You can still go on a romance path of one girl, either Lena or Holly. I haven't tried with Cindy or any other girl.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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At least Eva's retcons have not broken down the whole character development... unlike some other devs... who are absolutely shambles. (Changing character sprites or when adding sex scenes basically make it impossible to get unless you start from scratch, because in fact an innocuous decision you made at the beginning of the game means you can't get an h-scene now). Y'all can guess which game that is...
Yeah. I expect her latter-game retcons to be going back and carefully smoothing things over, since she's playing a lot of this by ear. Not sure which other game you're referring to though. I think the vast majority of porn VNs are pure shit or have those "whoa! First day of college!!!" harem plots that I'm just not interested in, so have only played through Eva's games and a handful of others to the end. Most get a "WTF is this shit?" and a quick delete a half-hour in.

Know the feeling, btw. Played through several fantastic non-porn games where the added content was throughout the game and you needed to start-the-fuck-over. As good as the games were and as forward as I was looking to what should've been extra DLC... no thanks.
 
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Yes. You can still go on a romance path of one girl, either Lena or Holly. I haven't tried with Cindy or any other girl.
You can play through a non-NTR Allison route too, as long as you stay confident and keep focused on her through-out. Just don't leave her alone or give any other character the opportunity. Cindy and Emma are too early in development to tell, but likely the same (sort of. At least they're cheating with you). Cherry is an open relationship, at least at first. Thing with Ian is you can't have all of them and playing the field leaves a possibility of someone else swooping in, so you have to choose. You can probably avoid all cuckqueening too when playing Lena if female MC getting NTR'd is a concern (though her non-Ian romance paths have been blah up till Holly). But both MCs have been cheated on in their previous relationships from before the game started. You don't play through that part since it's past-history, but it's of course unavoidable.
 
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ThaRealThiccShady

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You can play through a non-NTR Allison route too, as long as you stay confident and keep focused on her through-out. Just don't leave her alone or give any other character the opportunity. Cindy and Emma are too early in development to tell, but likely the same (sort of. At least they're cheating with you). Cherry is an open relationship, at least at first. You can probably avoid all cuckqueening too when playing Lena if female MC getting NTR'd is a concern (though her non-Ian romance paths have been blah up till Holly). But both MCs have been cheated on in their previous relationships from before the game started. You don't play through that part since it's past-history, but it's of course unavoidable.
Appreciate the detail! How much "surprise" NTR is there? You mentioned Alison and how to avoid her NTR but do you similarly have to make sure you don't leave the other girls alone/etc? Like will I be going through and accidentally walk in on a gangbang? Just played a game where I was shoved into a heavy NTR-rape scene by force/surprise and trying to get the taste from my mouth so I'm a lil sensitive haha
 

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Appreciate the detail! How much "surprise" NTR is there? You mentioned Alison and how to avoid her NTR but do you similarly have to make sure you don't leave the other girls alone/etc? Like will I be going through and accidentally walk in on a gangbang? Just played a game where I was shoved into a heavy NTR-rape scene by force/surprise and trying to get the taste from my mouth so I'm a lil sensitive haha
Just pay attention in the Alison route and you should be fine. The other routes, at least so far, are pretty well under the user's control, though keep an eye out that someone other than Wade doesn't get to Cindy first if you're going for her. [Be warned. By chapter 8 end, you're still putting in the work of stealing her, so expect a longer development, even if you've had "relations". I wouldn't call her dating her live-in boyfriend NTR though and you don't see any sex between them].

Basically, you're not going to walk in on your best girl in a double-vaginal triple-anal with midgets, elves and a dog in tow unless you're really playing for that on purpose. [Note: No midgets, elves or dogs shown in-game so far. Though I can't be 100% on that].
 
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Appreciate the detail! How much "surprise" NTR is there? You mentioned Alison and how to avoid her NTR but do you similarly have to make sure you don't leave the other girls alone/etc? Like will I be going through and accidentally walk in on a gangbang? Just played a game where I was shoved into a heavy NTR-rape scene by force/surprise and trying to get the taste from my mouth so I'm a lil sensitive haha
There isn’t a surprise NTR. You control both MCs so if you want you can cuck yourself.
 

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This example though, as far as I interpret it, harkens back to the thing that Eva set out to correct in the first place. You have Lena scolding Ian and breaking up with him, then turning around and doing exactly what she just scolded Ian for. I have not played that exact scenario out myself, but when doing that does Lena give any context as to why she is fine going through with Holly even though she just bashed Ian for it?
I'll have to replay it under the final version to see if this is still possible to get based on my choices, but in my particular playthrough Ian had slept with Holly, and then Lena broke up with him. At which point this flips Ian_Lena_Over to true, so Ian and Lena are NOT dating any more. After that, neither she nor Holly are really beholden to Ian, since he's not dating either of them, so it would make sense in this scenario that they can hook up.
 
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