Chuck_Bass
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Eva said she is planing on doing about 20 chapters, so the game is about 50% done.
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Yeah this is too meta for the average user, you just have to read the posts related to that in this thread. She'll get a lot of bug reports from steam users about it
Personally I didn't like this "joke".
Plus any platform, including Steam, is going to have a certification team inspect the game before final release. I foresee "Build failed. Level 8 main-story crash bug" write-ups in the future that would take some mitigating on Eva's part. "Well... it's not actually a crash."Yeah this is too meta for the average user, you just have to read the posts related to that in this thread. She'll get a lot of bug reports from steam users about it
Personally I didn't like this "joke".
I got the joke after a few clicks, since I'm used to these Renpy crashes on In-development games. But it's my least favorite part of the game now too, since it's the one place you can't fastforward on subsequent playthroughs unless you're using UnRen. Def the "oh god, this again" part of the game for me, but I select "do drugs" every time, in case it helps influence any future success in hidden stats. (I should probably just look through the code to confirm that, though).
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If such a team existed, lots of AAA games would be banned from Steam
If such a team existed, lots of AAA games would be banned from Steam
I'm not sure with Steam, tbh, but I heavy lean towards there being one. Likely a bunch less thorough than Nintendo's, Sony's or Xbox, but they probably do at least a speed run for Final releases before calling it good (as opposed to in-development titles).
Problem is, a game tested in a walled environment will often display different results on final release as even the consoles' release failures can attest to. I'd chalk up a lot of the failures to that + less thorough compliance testing due to a huge array of games + the limitations of compatibility testing inherent in PC game releases, as the end user's hardware and software config is nearly limitless vs the uniform configuration of a console release.
I remember playing multiple routes during my play-through of chapter 9. Now saves only seem to have on type of route with all stats maxed in all of them (similar to cheat mode 10 each). I do not want to replay the game from beginning now. Any way to recover to my original save or skip to different routes beginning chapter 10?
Guys, I need some help with my saves. The first time I opened v.10 Alpha and v.10 Final, all my saves were there.
But the second time I played each version, all my saves were gone. I also can't find them on AppData\Roaming\RenPy\RedString-1574621830.
WTF is happening? Is there a way to fix it? Where can I find my saves?
But the second time I played each version, all my saves were gone. I also can't find them on AppData\Roaming\RenPy\RedString-1574621830.
WTF is happening? Is there a way to fix it? Where can I find my saves?
Actually it was sort of an adaptation in a SF manner of Kurosowa's "The Hidden Fortress."
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I keep thinking she's wetting her upper lip with her tongue instead of being shocked, it throws me off ;/
lol. I know. But that's also extremely besides the point that the average person associates Star Wars with Sci-fi, not fantasy or... ninjas. InB4 "akshually... it's a Samurai film"
That's like if there were a Western Category and Holly advised against timeless classic spaghetti western set-ups.
"Hmm. There've been enough rogue strangers in Westerns, playing both sides of the coin. .Ok. Check. No deceitful loners."
(Deceitful loners ends up being +2 Western book points).
"Well, technically that movie is Yojimbo."
I don't think you all are getting the point of hints needing to be applicable to the average user in game design.
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True. Now we need one that's an adaptation of The Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven in a SF or fantasy setting...lol. I know. But that's also extremely besides the point that the average person associates Star Wars with Sci-fi, not fantasy or... ninjas.
That's like if there were a Western Category and Holly advised against timeless classic spaghetti western set-ups.
"Hmm. There've been enough rogue strangers in Westerns, playing both sides of the coin. .Ok. Check. No deceitful loners."
(Deceitful loners ends up being +2 Western book points).
"Well, technically that movie is Yojimbo."
I don't think you all are getting the point of hints needing to applicable to the average user in game design.
Had to wait on this because of those damn automatic updates. Every day at 11am and 7pm EST. If the pattern fits probably 3 am too, but I wouldn't be up THAT late!
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I get your point, but I gotta say, people who seriously read sci-fi novels like the type Ian is trying to write would be nerdy enough to distinguish between the Star Wars movie franchise tropes (chosen one with holy sword Imeanlightsaber and magic powers ImeantheForce) and those in sci-fi novels.
And I get that point, but these hints are supposed to be aimed at the player, not at the people in those geekdom communities. And a writer doesn't need to be steeped into that sort of ultra-tedious sci-fi fandom to write a great novel categorized by the general public under the genre.
As an aside, the "like Ian is trying to write" is also an assumption, though. He's chosen a general path to base his novel in, with the purpose of writing a good novel in that general area. It was never mentioned that his purpose was to please an insular community of genre zealots, who may not necessarily value good writing over their fandom desires and rigid category specifics.
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I think the "meta" aspect of Ian's book is that if the player only has average knowledge (of tropes), Ian's book has higher likelihood of being average as well (being not great).
Which is great for immersion (on completed game at least) because our average knowledge led Ian to average result. Without replay or walkthrough, Ian likely isn't great at writing if we ourselves aren't above average (or lucky) on choosing the tropes.
Lol, that's a pretty good game-design, in terms of replayability at least.
Which is great for immersion (on completed game at least) because our average knowledge led Ian to average result. Without replay or walkthrough, Ian likely isn't great at writing if we ourselves aren't above average (or lucky) on choosing the tropes.
Lol, that's a pretty good game-design, in terms of replayability at least.
I could see that in a meta 4-D chess sort of way: Make the puzzle unfair to the average user with "hints" that are purely subjective, as my end goal is to make them replay it.Of course, I think that's doubtful and still poor game design in the end. But touche.
Been down several paths, but still struggling to get Holly on the most "bad" path -- that is, most sexually active, most loosened up, ditching the glasses if possible, etc. etc.
Any ideas on the best path for that?
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Any ideas on the best path for that?
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Things you'd only know if you were deeply rooted in what an insular community of people consider a specific "genre". So was this game made just for those people?
There are plenty of well-read people out there who don't get so steeped into any one genre to really know the entire field.
Read a variety of uncategorizable authors or authors outside of those base categories, from Huxley, to Sartre, to Burroughs, to Bataille and a few stray fanboy-respected genre authors like Phillip K Dick? Well then, you're fucked. Sorry. Your 15 books read from Charles Bukowski are useless.
I'd mention Vonnegut alongside Dick, but I assume people might jump in and say "THAT'S NOT SCI-FI!"
Same goes for people who aren't well-read though and just know genres in layman terms from general pop-culture.
I'm talking in circles here, basically, as the end point is that a hint that only subjectively hits a small-ish slice of people from one strict corner of the reading world is not a good hint for this sort of wide-spread fetish game, where the only thing we all have in common is playing lewd videogames and jacking off.
It's also not a good representation of any sort of writing skill.
Some of the hints in their current state are fine. Others... not so much.
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I will say that I was under the impression an excellent novel would be striking a balance between following troops and going off the beaten path. So the trope option would give + points and the random options would give - points, with the goal being to end up somewhere in the middle.
I was also hoping that Wits would contribute to the book. Even with the wrong choices, it'd be nice if someone who prioritized Wits could still salvage the book. After all, a talented mind can make any set of tropes interesting in my opinion.
As it is now, pursuing Wits feels like a waste of time other than for "roleplaying" reasons.
I was also hoping that Wits would contribute to the book. Even with the wrong choices, it'd be nice if someone who prioritized Wits could still salvage the book. After all, a talented mind can make any set of tropes interesting in my opinion.
As it is now, pursuing Wits feels like a waste of time other than for "roleplaying" reasons.
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