VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[dontcarewhateverno]

Going by earlier Status Report there were apparently some tweaks to cuck path in the final version of Chapter 11 prologue:


Unfortunately this final version of the prologue wasn't uploaded in this thread, so the exact nature of said tweaks is known only to patreons.

Interesting. Guess we'll have to see what changes were made. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[johnyakuza1]

Hey guys, sorry for off-topic but do y'all know similar games to ORS and GGGB? I'm generally looking for a game where you control a Female MC and make choices like you do in this game

2DCG would be even better! I'm just trying to fill the void until Ch.11 comes out fully lmao

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Hey guys, sorry for off-topic but do y'all know similar games to ORS and GGGB? I'm generally looking for a game where you control a Female MC and make choices like you do in this game

2DCG would be even better! I'm just trying to fill the void until Ch.11 comes out fully lmao

I always pimp this game. It's got its detractors, but I think it's generally great. You control the girl, in a way, as her manager and she's allowed to have her own personal agency in some decisions beyond you as well. 2dcg. She's really the protagonist.

https://f95zone.to/threads/tabletop-bornstar-v0-43-basilicata.75111/

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I always pimp this game. It's got its detractors, but I think it's generally great. You control the girl, in a way, as her manager and she's allowed to have her own personal agency in some decisions beyond you as well. 2dcg. She's really the protagonist.

https://f95zone.to/threads/tabletop-bornstar-v0-43-basilicata.75111/

johnyakuza1 Note: Original link was wrong, linking to a post in the game thread with dev promoting another game. Since fixed.

 

[johnyakuza1]

johnyakuza1 Note: Original link was wrong, linking to a post in the game thread with dev promoting another game. Since fixed.

Thanks for the recommendation, art style certainly looks cool and might be great, downloading right away!

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Thanks for the recommendation, art style certainly looks cool and might be great, downloading right away!

No problem. Healslut (3dcg, more comedic/sci-fi/fantasy based) was pretty good too. Though quality & story are beginning to drag in more recent updates, along with several heavy-cringe characters (particularly bad when the dev tries to be "deep"). It was actually funny/fun at some points in the earlier game though and is generally a worthwhile time-killer. https://f95zone.to/threads/healslut-v0-85-public-davie-zwei.30013/

 

[Redgy]

Not exactly. A "cuck" is a blanket term which is not clear what it implies when the players go for it. Because for me "cuck" means cuckold, a person who knows, accepts, and even encourages the sexual adventures of his girlfriend or wife. So, Ian who simply takes pleasure from Lena's sexual escapades outside of their relationship. It might not mean because Ian wants to be reduced to a useless wimp that never has sex with Lena or to even enjoy humiliating remarks like "other guys fuck me better", etc (or at least not headrush into it right in their next scene together without any sort of buildup and discussion of boundaries).

After dabbling in BDSM community for a bit, my understanding is that cuck is more of a "useless wimp who enjoys humiliating remarks like "other guys fuck me better"". And there is also hotwifing, it's when a partner "encourages the sexual adventures of his girlfriend or wife and simply takes pleasure from their partner's sexual escapades outside of their relationship". So basically, the first one has to have a humiliating aspect to it, while the other one does not.
Sorry, I'm not really following this whole cuck dicussion. This just caught my eye and I thought it might be helpful to clarify cuz I was confused about this for a while too.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

You can literally turn nerd Holly into Ivy 2.0. I don't the reverse for Jeremy would be that weird. I think you guys are just thinking too small.

Holly makes sense because when we first met her, she already shows admiration and slight envy at how Lena carries herself. As the game progresses, we found out that Holly has always been wanting to change herself, but lacks the courage to actually do it. It's up to Ian and Lena to control her changes.

EvaKiss designed Holly with that conflict and character in mind from the very beginning. Jeremy has none of that. He's a playboy with no desire to enter a serious relationship—hence his dismay at being Louise's boyfriend—from the very beginning to now. I'm not saying it's impossible to make him a stable, faithful boyfriend to Lena, but it can break his established personality and lifestyle if not handled with care.

 

[JohnnyKiss]

EvaKiss designed Holly with that conflict and character in mind from the very beginning. Jeremy has none of that. He's a playboy with no desire to enter a serious relationship—hence his dismay at being Louise's boyfriend—from the very beginning to now. I'm not saying it's impossible to make him a stable, faithful boyfriend to Lena, but it can break his established personality and lifestyle if not handled with care.

I think you are mistaken if you think Holly is the only character that has inner conflict about who she is and is able to change. The core idea behind this visual novel is the ability to make choices and mold not only your character and the story they inhabit but also mold the supporting characters as well.

I highly doubt Jeremy's role in the story would be to just cuck Ian and be the "BBC Fetish" checkmark because so far, every character has shown that they can go one of two ways. Sure, for now, Jeremy's role is quite straightforward but it cannot stay straightforward for too long.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

After dabbling in BDSM community for a bit, my understanding is that cuck is more of a "useless wimp who enjoys humiliating remarks like "other guys fuck me better"". And there is also hotwifing, it's when a partner "encourages the sexual adventures of his girlfriend or wife and simply takes pleasure from their partner's sexual escapades outside of their relationship". So basically, the first one has to have a humiliating aspect to it, while the other one does not.
Sorry, I'm not really following this whole cuck dicussion. This just caught my eye and I thought it might be helpful to clarify cuz I was confused about this for a while too.

Many kink definitions, not unlike those in musical subcultures, are colloquial by both nature and necessity. Non-rigid ballpark terms for purposes of utility. They're often extremely fluid and fluctuate wildly with trends, depending on what little circle you're talking to. This is one of those. It's not like a rigid definition you'd find on a fifth grade social studies exam. -5: Sorry, Timmy. Technically, only a Beta Bitch cuck slurps creampies while locked in chastity, Re: My husband sharing me with the local fire department. I thought you paid attention to Chapter 7. - Mx Johnston Xe/Xer.
Well... maybe in the California Public School System.

 

[BloodyMares]

After dabbling in BDSM community for a bit, my understanding is that cuck is more of a "useless wimp who enjoys humiliating remarks like "other guys fuck me better"". And there is also hotwifing, it's when a partner "encourages the sexual adventures of his girlfriend or wife and simply takes pleasure from their partner's sexual escapades outside of their relationship". So basically, the first one has to have a humiliating aspect to it, while the other one does not.
Sorry, I'm not really following this whole cuck dicussion. This just caught my eye and I thought it might be helpful to clarify cuz I was confused about this for a while too.

Does it also state that the cuckold is never allowed to have sex with their main partner ever again? I don't think so. Even if that's the case, BDSM requires clear consent on both parties. Ian isn't aware that they're involved in a fantasy BDSM roleplay, Lena doesn't offer a safe word to Ian to stop their session. She doesn't even provide after-care when they're done to make sure he's okay. She just starts treating him badly without his clear consent, based on nothing more than a selfish desire to use his insecurity against him that came out of nowhere. She has a clear submissive kink, Ian doesn't. I don't think BDSM community would approve of that, Lena would be considered a toxic individual for everyone to stay away from.

And besides, according to you it's the BDSM definition. How many casual players are expected to "dab in BDSM community" to know the difference between cuckolding and hotwifing? To many people they mean the same thing. This game is not really focused heavily on BDSM kinks or lifestyle (or when it does so with Louise, it's done in a toxic pornified way) so it would be weird if the "cuck" path was associated specifically with BDSM lifestyle instead of using a more broad definition that far more people are familiar with:

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[Samuel Hidayat]

I think you are mistaken if you think Holly is the only character that has inner conflict about who she is and is able to change. The core idea behind this visual novel is the ability to make choices and mold not only your character and the story they inhabit but also mold the supporting characters as well.

I highly doubt Jeremy's role in the story would be to just cuck Ian and be the "BBC Fetish" checkmark because so far, every character has shown that they can go one of two ways. Sure, for now, Jeremy's role is quite straightforward but it cannot stay straightforward for too long.

When did I say Holly is the only one who has that? I used her as a comparison since you brought her up in the first place. I even said that Jeremy becoming a stable LI for Lena isn't implausible, just needs to be written carefully to not conflict with his personality and lifestyle so far.

Stop putting words in my mouth. Strawmanning is just disingenuous.

 

[mommysboiii]

It seems you didn't really read my post. What's the point in having these opportunities if they are bugs? Meaning they won't give you a dedicated route. You'll never see the result of that corruption because in some scenes Holly could act like Ivy's apprentice willing to explore, but with Ian or Lena while talking about Ian she would act prim and proper (because Eva doesn't realize that she lost the track of the branches). It would still restrict your playthrough because sometimes Eva would remember to put restrictions in place but other times she wouldn't, resulting in a broken, disjointed narrative that feels like a multiverse collapsed in on itself, and the characters not realizing which timeline they belong to. Corruption is only worthwhile if you're actually purposefully trigger the buildup to it. If you can select slutty options at any time, on any playthrough, it wouldn't be satisfying.


And once again, Eva is not a robot, she has to limit the amount of possible branches, otherwise the game will never be finished. And it's Eva's choice how to do that. With Ed she decided to cut his path short and perhaps revisit him in a DLC. Some events she might not think as worth exploring at all, much to our disappointment. But these are necessary sacrifices because Eva Kiss is not an AAA studio with countless employees and a full set of writers.

my english is not the best sorry maybe I understood it wrong but I live under the assumption that this game is mainly a corruption game maybe I am wrong and this game is now a vanilla dating sumulator and will have some normals dates and bunch of happy endings in the future and thats it.

So maybe I understand it wrong so alison underperforms in the treesome, axel can touch cindy near her vagina at the photoshot,ian can jerk of to pictures of jeremy,lena and cindy, ian get get beat up,ian can jerk of to jessica gangbang porn scenes, holly has fantasys about a uknowns man, holly can get corrupted in a relationship with ian, lena can be played like a slut if in a relationship with ian, lena can watch louise and jeremy, ian cant throw away the pictures of gillian , alison getting red in the club near axel ,the bouncer hit on holly , the coworker hit on holly , all the writting references if you play a certain way and many more....

this are all accidents by eva??so she accidentally wrote a corruption game (and a lot of references like alison getting red near axel at the disco engounter) and in the future there will happen nothing?

 

[JohnnyKiss]

When did I say Holly is the only who has that? I used her as a comparison since you brought her up in the first place. I even said that Jeremy becoming a stable LI for Lena isn't implausible, just needs to be written carefully to not conflict with his personality and lifestyle so far.

Stop putting words in my mouth. Strawmanning is just disingenuous.

"EvaKiss designed Holly with that conflict and character in mind from the very beginning. Jeremy has none of that"

This is the part I was referencing when I said Holly isn't the only character that has that conflict. Every character present has that and throughout the game you will certainly get the opportunity to change that character.

Saying that any of the characters can only go one way is weird. The point is to break the norms of those characters, the qeustion only is how you will able to do that.

 

[BloodyMares]

my english is not the best sorry maybe I understood it wrong but I live under the assumption that this game is mainly a corruption game maybe I am wrong and this game is now a vanilla dating sumulator and will have some normals dates and bunch of happy endings in the future and thats it.

So maybe I understand it wrong so alison underperforms in the treesome, axel can touch cindy near her vagina at the photoshot,ian can jerk of to pictures of jeremy,lena and cindy, ian get get beat up,ian can jerk of to jessica gangbang porn scenes, holly has fantasys about a uknowns man, holly can get corrupted in a relationship with ian, lena can be played like a slut if in a relationship with ian, lena can watch louise and jeremy, ian cant throw away the pictures of gillian , alison getting red in the club near axel ,the bouncer hit on holly , the coworker hit on holly , all the writting references if you play a certain way and many more....

this are all accidents by eva??so she accidentally wrote a corruption game (and a lot of references like alison getting red near axel at the disco engounter) and in the future there will happen nothing?

No, they're clearly not all accidents. Most of them are deliberate decisions with future content in mind. But the threesome with Jeremy and Louise while in a relationship with Ian wasn't deliberate, but a bug. Same with Holly agreeing to blow Mark to cheat on Ian, it was a bug. Holly hasn't reached the point in the story yet where she would be willing to cheat, she needs more time (and a series of poor choices by Ian). I'm positive some of the more kinky stuff will be introduced at a later date (after all there is holly_marcel variable). But don't be this impatient. Let Eva build everything up properly and decide how to manage this insane amount of storylines. She can't do everything at once.

 

[Blurpee69]

Oh Shit. Marcel is getting in on the action? If you all thought that Perry would slay the second he's off the leash, just wait for Marcel. ORS gonna be a harem game then.

 

[Deleted member 3707854]

Anybody reckon Ian will get with Louise and Ivy at some point? I'm having my boy Ian go on a sexual rampage through every lady that he can get his hands on!

 

[mommysboiii]

No, they're clearly not all accidents. Most of them are deliberate decisions with future content in mind. But the threesome with Jeremy and Louise while in a relationship with Ian wasn't deliberate, but a bug. Same with Holly agreeing to blow Mark to cheat on Ian, it was a bug. Holly hasn't reached the point in the story yet where she would be willing to cheat, she needs more time (and a series of poor choices by Ian). I'm positive some of the more kinky stuff will be introduced at a later date (after all there is holly_marcel variable). But don't be this impatient. Let Eva build everything up properly and decide how to manage this insane amount of storylines. She can't do everything at once.

I am sorry maybe i missunderstood english is not my main language.

It makes sens that holly for example is heels over head in love with Ian and has a huge crush on him and is at the moment not corrupted enough to do things like that or that lena at the moment is not currupted enough sure. SO if something like that happens at the moment its unintentional but it dosent mean it cant happen in the future if the writting gets more spicy.

and I have a question if you dont mind the treesome with alison and jeremy if ian underperforms jeremy wears a condom in my playthrough but if ian dosent get it up at all jeremy dosent wear a condom is there a reason behind it? or is it a accident??

(and a series of poor choices by Ian)

and what do you mean by that? I hope it dosent mean I have to roleplay my Ian as a huge asshole to her or something like that. I hope its more like beaing a wimp and dumb decission from ian than play ian as a huge incel pls.

 

[IkarusWestwood]

Anybody reckon Ian will get with Louise and Ivy at some point? I'm having my boy Ian go on a sexual rampage through every lady that he can get his hands on!

Ivy I think will happen sometime soon, Louise I see happening with her being Lena's pet and Lena asking Ian for a threesome

 

[ffive]

Oh Shit. Marcel is getting in on the action? If you all thought that Perry would slay the second he's off the leash, just wait for Marcel. ORS gonna be a harem game then.

Sadly, holly_marcel is only used to mark whether Holly and Marcel have had a conversation. At least for now. Although no doubt he'd stamp that library card back to back if given a chance.