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VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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WatsonJohn

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BloodyMares said:
Yes, you can. To trigger the dating with Lena you just need to go to the date with her in Chapter 4. During dates in Ch 4 and 5, don't take Ian home and blueball him as much as possible. In Chapter 7 admit to Jeremy that you're falling for Lena, and as Lena cuddle with Ian after the drawing event (don't get mad at Ian for fighting Robert). in Chapter 8 don't fuck Jeremy as Lena as it makes her reject the relationship proposal. And then in Chapter 9, Ian will confess his feelings to Lena and she will accept his relationship proposal. This way, they'll become a couple without ever having sex during the several times they've been hanging out. In Chapter 10 you can either accept Ian's "chastity" in this relationship or you can break up with Lena. If you accept the situation, this locks you into the hard cuck path.
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Lena automatically has sex with Ian the morning after cuddling. Can't seem to avoid sex if you work on maxing their relationship.
 
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ffive said:
I'd argue Ian is quite above the average, all things considered -- he's good looking, in very good shape, potentially both intelligent and charming, not a creep, an artist *and* evidently competent in the sack as well. He's mostly held back by his insecurity caused by the experience with Gillian, but it's not really at all weird women would be attracted to him. Actual average guys can't claim half of the strong points Ian has going for him.
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No, fatpussy got it right in the regard that Ian is the typical plain average guy that get but magically happens to potenially fuck 7 girls within weeks, something that isn't possible unless you are a model and sex freak with a body count in the four digits or other unconventional circumcstances. It's an improvement over the typical anime story in which MC is a loser who gets mocked, pitied and is hated by 5 girls, but somehow he can score with every one of them if not all of them at once. Still the same basis, since the foundation is a pornographic game with lot's of choices.

He's not above average but plainly not below average that merely fullfills the basics. Good looking? He is just not ugly. Good shape? He can get beaten up reguraly and can only gets muscles in chapter 10, he just istn't overweight like Perry and Stan are.
He isn't a creep, wow, what an acomplishment. He's good in the bed? He can't even get it up.

Holly? Offices usually have fairly boring dry guys since those tend to be who manage to be content in these workplaces, Ian rebelling against Minerva is the outstanding feature that catches her interest since she is overexited of it and regards it as cool and noble when its a double edged sword, since it can also lead him to lose his job.
Alison? Her other choices are Perry and Jeremy. While Jeremy is good if you just want a to droll over, Ian is at least emotional respondent and can listen to her and support here. Again, thats not above average but very basic stuff.

Gillian is inferior to Lena since she is no model and has smaller tits. Mike points out how Lena is hotter than her.

ffive said:
In contrast Stan would need to reinvent himself.
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We can all agree that Ian is better than Stan. Is that an accomplishment? No.

ffive said:
I think you're misremembering things a bit. None of Ian's friends is surprised by Ian being able to court Lena -- both Jeremy and Perry are supportive early on, and then all Ian's friend congratulate him on having such great girlfriend, but no one questions this as some sort of thing that's unthinkable to happen.
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Perry and Jeremy are surprised that Ian manages to get her attention. Just because they don't question it further doesn't mean that it isn't untypical and unexpected from Ian.
Just because Perry screws up mentioning Gillian one or twice, doesn't mean he constantly has to point out the obvious that Lena is much better than Gillian. Consider that the artstyle misleads in making every female there extremely attractive, when actually there is a difference. Ivy, Cindy, Lena and Cherry are outstanding while Alison, Holly and Gillian are plain.
 
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business_casual said:
so is the dev of this game a girl? is this how she sees the world... that guys are all sex-hungry pigs who fuck everything, and women are like sexually exploited (whether lustful or not) by guys all around them for basic things like work at every turn?
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"What the Hell are we going to do without men game developers?! You look around this site here, you see all these games, these men developers are doing impossible things. They're under their mom's house, in the basement, working on the game. They're up on the patreon, on the internet, soliciting money from their supporters. They're keeping this impossible infrastructure functioning. This thing that works and in miraculous manner. They work themselves to "Abandoned" tag, and often literally. Very useful to tell to the users here, not just to developers, that they have an important role to play, a necessary role, and if they act properly and honestly and forthrightingly, that they can put their lives together, and that they can help their supporters, and that they can make their communities... better. And that 'toxic discourse', that appaling phrase. That's why women developers are the Dragon of Chaos"
 
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business_casual said:
so is the dev of this game a girl? is this how she sees the world... that guys are all sex-hungry pigs who fuck everything, and women are like sexually exploited (whether lustful or not) by guys all around them for basic things like work at every turn?
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I mean... it's kind of true, lol.
 
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mommysboiii said:
I would rank it like this (y)

Females


S Tier: (gillian),Alison,Cindy
A Tier: Ivy,Holly
B Tier: bad Jess,Louise,Lena
C Tier: Cherry,Emma
D Tier: Minvera,good jess

Males

GOD gigachad Tier: Axel
S Tier: old grandpa
A Tier: Mike,jeremy
B Tier: our boiiiii Ian,robert
C Tier: Wade
D Tier: Perry,ED,stan the man
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Gillian and Alison S tier do explain ?
 
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fatpussy123 said:
his life would have been different if he made different choices is a meaningless statement. Stan could be a gigachad if he spent the time he spends jacking it to his roommates in the gym and building his wealth. The point is at the start of the story Ian is single feeling sorry for himself because he got cheated on by his longtime girlfriend. Every achievment regarding his sex life is entirely based on the choices of the player. He can be the epitome of male performances and fuck every women in his immediate circle or he can be a loser getting a handjob from Lena while she talks about Axels cock. It is entirely based on the player's decisions. "he never tried prior to the game starting" him trying after the game starts is also a decison made by the player.
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Everything is a player choice, including rejecting women that throw themselves into Ian. It's hard to misinterpret Alison's advances as anything else for example, and he only blew it with her in highschool because he didn't consider her as an option, it doesn't change Ian's attractive qualities that can passively charm women. Even Minerva is treating him like trash due to her sexual frustrations and guilty attraction to a young hunk. Her attraction isn't player-controlled, only Ian's awareness of it. And if we count Holly's established crush, it's 3 women who are lusting after Ian even if he simply breathes around them and does nothing to pursue them. That's WAY above average. They might not be models (but have the potential to be in Alison's and Holly's case) but they're still all attractive women. Well, with Minerva it might be up to debate.

WatsonJohn said:
Lena automatically has sex with Ian the morning after cuddling. Can't seem to avoid sex if you work on maxing their relationship.
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Did your Lena decide to suck Axel off in her dream? That's what makes it automatic. Otherwise, you have a choice whether to "Wake him up with a blowjob" or not. If Lena had a sexy dream about Axel, she's too horny to deny herself (and deny Ian)

Gicoo said:
Good looking? He is just not ugly. Good shape? He can get beaten up reguraly and can only gets muscles in chapter 10, he just istn't overweight like Perry and Stan are.
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Ian has a clearly buff build even in Chapter 1. He just doesn't have his muscles outlined like some bodybuilders but he has the mass in his muscles, thus has a healthy diet and works out constantly. If he wasn't in good shape, he'd just be either skinny like Danny or have a bit of a belly like Perry or even both, skinny torso with a belly. Good shape isn't measured by combat skills, only how you look. I somehow doubt that movie stars with chiseled bodies all know martial arts and can defend themselves in a fight against most people without proper combat / martial arts training.
Gicoo said:
Mike points out how Lena is hotter than her.
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I like how you decided for yourself that Gillian is definitively Mike's girlfriend, despite it being only a fan theory.
 
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BloodyMares said:
Would she even meet Axel if Ian didn't mention going to Shine with Alison and Cherry, thus causing her to want to go there which triggers Axel noticing her?
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Not under the exact circumstances but she is going to leave him for a better man sooner or later. She can learn about the bar through Alison or someone else. Or Axel mets her in Blazer. Without Lena, Axel is likely even more enthusiastic to met new girls than he already is.
 
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Gicoo said:
No, fatpussy got it right in the regard that Ian is the typical plain average guy
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I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. If you think that "average guy" is witty, intelligent, charming, good looking, well behaved *and* good in bed, then you have very optimistic idea of what constitutes for average, typical and plain. But might want to ask some women about it for a more realistic perspective.

Out of ORS cast i'd say Robert and/or Mark are positioned as "average guy", with shortcomings balancing out the few advantages they have.
 
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Gicoo said:
No, fatpussy got it right in the regard that Ian is the typical plain average guy that get but magically happens to potenially fuck 7 girls within weeks, something that isn't possible unless you are a model and sex freak with a body count in the four digits or other unconventional circumcstances. It's an improvement over the typical anime story in which MC is a loser who gets mocked, pitied and is hated by 5 girls, but somehow he can score with every one of them if not all of them at once. Still the same basis, since the foundation is a pornographic game with lot's of choices.

He's not above average but plainly not below average that merely fullfills the basics. Good looking? He is just not ugly. Good shape? He can get beaten up reguraly and can only gets muscles in chapter 10, he just istn't overweight like Perry and Stan are.
He isn't a creep, wow, what an acomplishment. He's good in the bed? He can't even get it up.

Holly? Offices usually have fairly boring dry guys since those tend to be who manage to be content in these workplaces, Ian rebelling against Minerva is the outstanding feature that catches her interest since she is overexited of it and regards it as cool and noble when its a double edged sword, since it can also lead him to lose his job.
Alison? Her other choices are Perry and Jeremy. While Jeremy is good if you just want a to droll over, Ian is at least emotional respondent and can listen to her and support here. Again, thats not above average but very basic stuff.

Gillian is inferior to Lena since she is no model and has smaller tits. Mike points out how Lena is hotter than her.


We can all agree that Ian is better than Stan. Is that an accomplishment? No.


Perry and Jeremy are surprised that Ian manages to get her attention. Just because they don't question it further doesn't mean that it isn't untypical and unexpected from Ian.
Just because Perry screws up mentioning Gillian one or twice, doesn't mean he constantly has to point out the obvious that Lena is much better than Gillian. Consider that the artstyle misleads in making every female there extremely attractive, when actually there is a difference. Ivy, Cindy, Lena and Cherry are outstanding while Alison, Holly and Gillian are plain.
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See kids this is what happened when you spend too much time in adult forums .like hell ngga how is ian average?? he is intelligent , can fight ,worksout ,is witty ,loved music, good in bed and is decent looking and is above average or avrg in height (since the dev is spanish the avrg height there is 5.8 so ian is an inch taller than avg)
 
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Swordsman83 said:
don't think Ian will get any action with Good Jess. rate her on personality only.
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I think he can get with her eventually but nowhere soon, but that would probably require a faithful Ian thats also kinda of a playboy to get her to agree to it. very tricky to do but no impossible
 
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