mommysboiii

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Considering Alison's love for creampies and her bad reaction to the pills, I'd say there's a very high chance of her getting pregnant one of these days, probably even the first day Ian officially becomes her boyfriend.
hope the baby is black:coffee::coffee: will be interisting to see how she will talk herself out of that one to ian

you know ian I accidentally slipped and fall on jeremys cock again :sneaky: :sneaky:
 

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Her body in most of the scenes was inspired by August Ames. Not sure about the face, to me she kinda looks like young Dana DeArmond.
Now it makes sense why I like her so much. Thanks for the info.

I never called any of the girls bad-looking, but in the context of the story characters treat Cindy and Lena specifically as being the most attractive women. If Alison really had this big crush throughout their entire friendship, just like Holly, and like how Minerva had a thing for Ian, doesnt that speak to how socially lacking Ian can be without player input? That he had three attractive woman crushing on him but did not manage to sleep with one of them and instead got cheated on by Gillian and proceeded to spend the following months wallowing in self pity.
I feel like we're arguing different things. My point is that Ian is good enough to be able to attract good-looking women(e.g. Alison) even before the game starts. He is no loser by any means. Whatever happens after you start the game depends on what your tastes and/or kinks are and whoever you want Ian to be.
 
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There are even hidden stats charater_satisfaction in the code.
is this true ??? tell me more sir how can I influance this most of the time cheracters are satisfied if I have low flame stat my ian is worse in bed??? or need i make the diecission that dosent have flames???
 
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is this true ??? tell me more sir how can I influance this most of the time cheracters are satisfied if I have low flame state my ian is worse in bed??? or need i make the diecission that dosent have flames???
No generally flame options give the most satisfaction. Emma, Cherry, Lena, and Alison have satisfaction stats, but they have little effect on the outcomes, generally just minor dialogue differences I think. You can see where they are if you ctrl+F satisfaction on the walkthrough.
 

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"witty, intelligent, charming, good looking, well behaved *and* good in bed" my point is that the witniness, intelligence is created by the dialogue chosen by the player.
Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that's what Ian is potentially like, and so it's somewhat silly to describe such man as "average". The player certainly can have Ian act somewhat average -- that is, pick poor options in dialogues, underperform in bed, don't put effort in his book, lazy around and wank for hours. But, surprise, if Ian acts this way then he generally fails to impress girls enough to establish relationships with them, or finds himself dumped.

Before this Ian is distinctly around average or slightly above average.
If by this you mean the game then we have zero idea what Ian was actually like before it. All we know is that his long time friend Allison has been crushing on him, while he formed relationship with Gillian that lasted years, until it eventually broke down.

The good in bed thing is conjecture.
It's hardly conjecture when normally Ian is capable of regularly satisfying every woman he gets in bed with. That this is up to the player it's meaningless argument -- average guy doesn't have choice of being excellent or poor performer, he will be at best mediocre because he doesn't know any better.

These are Ian's stats at the start of the game before the player has any input. (...) To be fair these aren't necessary to the game or even strict 'canon', but they are made by the author and convey the author's intent of the characters being slightly above average at the start of the game.
There's only one small problem with reading these stats in such manner. You know who else is "distinctly average" or just tiny bit above average by this metric? These girls:

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Now, don't get me wrong, am fine with the idea of Ian being "just as average" as Lena or Cherry. But i suspect these same people who are fast to call Ian average would scoff quite a bit if you told them any of these girls is "just disctinctly average", too. :sneaky:

edit: to put it differently, i think what we have here is the same effect TVTropes lovingly puts as "Hollywood Homely" i.e. the baseline being drawn so high that character which is supposed to be unattractive would in reality turn men heads as she walks by, because she's gorgeous compared to what actual average (nevermind homely) is like. Ian (and Lena and Cherry etc) are "average" in this sense, but their "average" has very little to do with actual human average, which is considerably lower than what these characters demonstrate.
 
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I tried to play this game but unfortunately my potato cannot run it well :FacePalm:, I have input lag of more than 3 seconds which prevents me from responding to time-limited events and I have to load a save every 10 minutes because the dialogs start to run slow. In the 20 minutes I was able to play I hated the MC boss, the one who gets angry about the books reviews :KEK:.
 

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I tried to play this game but unfortunately my potato cannot run it well :FacePalm:, I have input lag of more than 3 seconds which prevents me from responding to time-limited events and I have to load a save every 10 minutes because the dialogs start to run slow. In the 20 minutes I was able to play I hated the MC boss, the one who gets angry about the books reviews :KEK:.
Use an android phone even a mid tier phone can run this vn easy.
 

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Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that's what Ian is potentially like, and so it's somewhat silly to describe such man as "average". The player certainly can have Ian act somewhat average -- that is, pick poor options in dialogues, underperform in bed, don't put effort in his book, lazy around and wank for hours. But, surprise, if Ian acts this way then he generally fails to impress girls enough to establish relationships with them, or finds himself dumped.


If by this you mean the game then we have zero idea what Ian was actually like before it. All we know is that his long time friend Allison has been crushing on him, while he formed relationship with Gillian that lasted years, until it eventually broke down.


It's hardly conjecture when normally Ian is capable of regularly satisfying every woman he gets in bed with. That this is up to the player it's meaningless argument -- average guy doesn't have choice of being excellent or poor performer, he will be at best mediocre because he doesn't know any better.


There's only one small problem with reading these stats in such manner. You know who else is "distinctly average" or just tiny bit above average by this metric? These girls:

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Now, don't get me wrong, am fine with the idea of Ian being "just as average" as Lena or Cherry. But i suspect these same people who are fast to call Ian average would scoff quite a bit if you told them any of these girls is "just disctinctly average", too. :sneaky:

edit: to put it differently, i think what we have here is the same effect TVTropes lovingly puts as "Hollywood Homely" i.e. the baseline being drawn so high that character which is supposed to be unattractive would in reality turn men heads as she walks by, because she's gorgeous compared to what actual average (nevermind homely) is like. Ian (and Lena and Cherry etc) are "average" in this sense, but their "average" has very little to do with actual human average, which is considerably lower than what these characters demonstrate.
Dude yes these girls are average by these metrics. Their intelligence and their social charisma is nothing to write home about. What makes them above average and attractive is what is not measured, like their sex appeal, relation to Ian, and their general character. YOU gave the metric of charisma and intelligence which Ian and these girls fall average on. If we want to add other metrics like the sex appeal of their bodies sure they'd be 8-10s but even then Ian would not rank that high.
 

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I tried to play this game but unfortunately my potato cannot run it well :FacePalm:, I have input lag of more than 3 seconds which prevents me from responding to time-limited events and I have to load a save every 10 minutes because the dialogs start to run slow. In the 20 minutes I was able to play I hated the MC boss, the one who gets angry about the books reviews :KEK:.
Chapter 11 will make add the setting where you'll be able to disable the timed choices.
 

PickerLewd

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Use an android phone even a mid tier phone can run this vn easy.
Maybe, I haven't played on cellphones for more than 15 years, I never adapted to playing on a touch screen and want the buttons era back, a total boomer :LUL:.
Chapter 11 will make add the setting where you'll be able to disable the timed choices.
Great, maybe a lot of people don't like that mechanic? In my case it's only because of my hardware problem.
 

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edit: to put it differently, i think what we have here is the same effect TVTropes lovingly puts as "Hollywood Homely" i.e. the baseline being drawn so high that character which is supposed to be unattractive would in reality turn men heads as she walks by, because she's gorgeous compared to what actual average (nevermind homely) is like. Ian (and Lena and Cherry etc) are "average" in this sense, but their "average" has very little to do with actual human average, which is considerably lower than what these characters demonstrate.
It's the reverse. Holly, Alison, Emma and Gillian are stated to be decent but plain and homely compared to the model-like Lena, Cindy, Cherry and Ivy. But they are all drawn so gorgeous thats their sexiness is indistinguishly from each other.
 

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Great, maybe a lot of people don't like that mechanic? In my case it's only because of my hardware problem.
It's also an accessibility issue. Some people have challenges that prevent them from reacting fast. This way, it won't be a problem anymore for those who struggle.
 
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Dude yes these girls are average by these metrics. Their intelligence and their social charisma is nothing to write home about. What makes them above average and attractive is what is not measured, like their sex appeal, relation to Ian, and their general character.
I'd say the sex-appeal is combination of charisma and lust, not anything that's not included here. Relation to Ian is supposed to determine whether a girl is average or not? Come on, that's nonsense. "General character" is equally vague: what's supposed to be the "general character" of these girls that makes them above average in your eyes, and what do you think is general character of average person?

And well, alright. If we're going to conclude these girls are "nothing to write home about" and completely average, then am not seeing why anyone is acting as if it's unrealistic for Ian to have relationship with any of them. Average girl and average guy get together, why is it supposedly such an unbelievable achievement for the guy, again? /s

It's the reverse. Holly, Alison, Emma and Gillian are stated to be decent but plain and homely compared to the model-like Lena, Cindy, Cherry and Ivy. But they are all drawn so gorgeous thats their sexiness is indistinguishly from each other.
It's not reverse, it's exactly how it works -- very attractive actresses are hired to play roles of "homely girls" . Exactly what you have here, supposed "average people" are drawn highly attractive and act perfectly socially competent, i.e. nothing like actual average.

And i have yet to see anyone in game say that Gillian was "plain and homely". Much like the others, for this matter: if Holly is supposed to be plain and homely, how comes Lena thinks she is beautiful and pretty enough to be a model?
 
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