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So this is more of a reply to different posts.
- 16 chapters does seem to little. But how the fuck does EK ending it to soon relates to "All because she will be appeasing the kink fans and shit appeasing the kink fans and shit"? One is not the consequence of the other. If she is cutting it short is because she is getting tired of it, and/or because she doesn't want to still be doing it in 2+ years.
- Her last point EK writes "she intends to build up the spiciness of the scenes in ORS but wants to keep the story semi-realistic". In another point she says there will be more 3somes and pregnancy. To me that fits the "spiciness and keeping it semi-realistic". So no fuckfest aside maybe for "Bimbo Alison".
- Again, coming from GGGB and Eva expressing she wanted this to be semi-realistic meant the some fetishes would come into play.
- Lets review chapter 1:
Who is introduced: For Ian: Bitch boss is introduced, Friend with hot model-like gf is introduced, Athletic black-man friend who works in a bar is introduced. For Lena: bitch redhead-friend, Overweight shy computer geek roomate, Poledancer girl, etc. So let's put Alison development aside; and you cant tell me that from very early on the personalities for who was who and how things could develop werent present.
You keep blaming the fans fetishes. But again aside from Alison the story developed according to how it was set up. All I am seeing is: it went downhill because that is not how I wanted it.
It is very possible that it will go down hill, but as of now I don't think it has. A lot of what yall are writing is what you THINK will happen. So I stand by my previous post
- 16 chapters does seem to little. But how the fuck does EK ending it to soon relates to "All because she will be appeasing the kink fans and shit appeasing the kink fans and shit"? One is not the consequence of the other. If she is cutting it short is because she is getting tired of it, and/or because she doesn't want to still be doing it in 2+ years.
- Her last point EK writes "she intends to build up the spiciness of the scenes in ORS but wants to keep the story semi-realistic". In another point she says there will be more 3somes and pregnancy. To me that fits the "spiciness and keeping it semi-realistic". So no fuckfest aside maybe for "Bimbo Alison".
- Again, coming from GGGB and Eva expressing she wanted this to be semi-realistic meant the some fetishes would come into play.
- Lets review chapter 1:
Who is introduced: For Ian: Bitch boss is introduced, Friend with hot model-like gf is introduced, Athletic black-man friend who works in a bar is introduced. For Lena: bitch redhead-friend, Overweight shy computer geek roomate, Poledancer girl, etc. So let's put Alison development aside; and you cant tell me that from very early on the personalities for who was who and how things could develop werent present.
You keep blaming the fans fetishes. But again aside from Alison the story developed according to how it was set up. All I am seeing is: it went downhill because that is not how I wanted it.
It is very possible that it will go down hill, but as of now I don't think it has. A lot of what yall are writing is what you THINK will happen. So I stand by my previous post
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I will say this and will chose to agree to disagree. EK is trying to "Salvage" what vision of ORS she had. We are shouting fetish-driven that was all happening till CH11(except some starting chapters) as EK herself mentioned that she went with "Fans suggestion and now will continue her vision of story" something among these lines, if you will read her last Q&A you will find this. In the end we are all here (if we don't die) we'll see how much salvation will she do by "cutting down chapters thus, limiting story lines of different character's in 4 chapter's(if 16)".
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Agreed. If she does somehow make it work with 16 chapters, then fair enough. But right now, I'm not very confident.I will say this and will chose to agree to disagree. EK is trying to "Salvage" what vision of ORS she had. We are shouting fetish-driven that was all happening till CH11(except some starting chapters) as EK herself mentioned that she went with "Fans suggestion and now will continue her vision of story" something among these lines, if you will read her last Q&A you will find this. In the end we are all here (if we don't die) we'll see how much salvation will she do by "cutting down chapters thus, limiting story lines of different character's in 4 chapter's(if 16)".
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Eva has also been somewhat cautious with certain aspects of this game.
Robert got more than one revision to make him more palpable to the people who found him creepy, Stan wasn't the first guy in that regard. She also changed Billy's race after Alison had her threesome with him and Jeremy, seemingly to curb any comparisons between her and the Eva route from GGGB where she became a BBC-gangbang-whorebiscuit. There's also been complaints about racist and transphobic dialogue which I imagine hasn't exactly boosted her confidence.
That added to an increasingly difficult ambition to release updates somewhat regularly, perhaps she just figures she should wrap it up and move on to bigger and better things? It's a pity because I also feel like the climax of the story has barely been hinted at yet.
Robert got more than one revision to make him more palpable to the people who found him creepy, Stan wasn't the first guy in that regard. She also changed Billy's race after Alison had her threesome with him and Jeremy, seemingly to curb any comparisons between her and the Eva route from GGGB where she became a BBC-gangbang-whorebiscuit. There's also been complaints about racist and transphobic dialogue which I imagine hasn't exactly boosted her confidence.
That added to an increasingly difficult ambition to release updates somewhat regularly, perhaps she just figures she should wrap it up and move on to bigger and better things? It's a pity because I also feel like the climax of the story has barely been hinted at yet.
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Most of what you said has been discussed in this forum but I know Eva Kiss doesn't visit these forum so I'd like to know how similar the discussions are on the discord/patron side of the community. My assumption is that people will be more amicable and understanding of her vision on those spaces
- Oct 29, 2017
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Her discord is more kiss assing sycophants with some that may express their issues with it but will be entirely ignored overall. Speaking from personal experience.
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"How to tell everybody I am an idiot without telling everybody I am an idiot"
Ivy is Lena's friend and she got no other connection to Ian. As far as I know and understand Ian's character he is not the most confident guy either to just stalk her outside of her workplace and start flirting with her. Every time they met was either by coincidence(like in the bar with Jeremy or in the gym) or through Lena, it was crystal clear from the first chapter it will take some time or would never happen.
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I lurk on the Discord now and then. My impression is that EvaKiss occasionally reads the Discord, but usually doesn't get involved with the discussions. The closest the Discord people usually get is interacting with someone who has a direct line of communication to her (bug-tester, etc.).
She occasionally interacts more directly with Patreon fans, but the Patreon blog post style doesn't really allow for discussions like a forum.
To answer your question, the tone is less negative on Discord/Patreon, for better or worse. Better because many complaints are just not helpful, but worse because any actual constructive feedback is less likely to be heard. I'll guess that the less negativity is due to (1) the people on Discord/Patreon buying into Eva's process (literally), so they may feel less need to complain, (2) some social pressure on those forums to not complain as much, especially on Discord with moderators being active contributors in the conversation, and (3) size. There's about 28,000 people active on F95 as I post this. There's a little over 1,100 on the Discord, and I think only a fraction of those are able to access all of the topic sections. There's a lot more opportunity for negativity with larger groups.
P.S. (4) this is a... unique forum. I can't imagine that every single scallywag pirate of such questionable treasure are warm, empathetic, altruistic folk. A lot more opportunity for freedom of expression, which cuts both ways.
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We don't know, because only Eva knows what's actually left. So if they think the story has reached roughly 2/3rd point, am going to simply believe it, rather than clutch my pearls. The 20 chapters was very early estimate, and if EK has crammed more of the story in the 11 eps released up to now then good for them, and for us too -- maybe we'll see the game wrap up in 3 years instead of 5.
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Honestly I think she wants to put the preverbal bullet to this project given everything and the fact she bit off way more than she did with this game. I mean multiple burnouts, writers blocks, inconsistancies with chracters not addressed or remedied. So if she is think she can wrap it all up in 16 chapters, I wish her the best, but expect that the story is gonna suffer for it and we are gonna be shoehorned so much fetish content and neglect other characters who haven't gotten there due if she is gonna try her 'rushed' method. NOW, if she decides to take her time (which is doubtful at this point) and have the remaining chapters be chaulked full of things, and expand the build time to over 4 months or so, then I'll reconsider things. Though given the history and pathing of things, I have my doubts.
SerHawkes (F)amily: Where are you going? You've been so busy!
S: "To protest, goddammit! This CANNOT STAND!"
F: Oh... oh? You-You're into politics?-- well, whatever you feel is righ-
S: -"AND HE HASN'T EVEN BONKED IVY YET! GODDAMNED EVAKISS!!"
F: ...Is -is that some sort of politician?
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I despise politics. I consider myself a preacher for the unjust content of waifus who truly deserve their due or deserve better.
Though I may have to crowdfund a trip to Spain if needed. Lot of hot spanish ladies there... Might run across EK in the process.
It doesn't make sense to correlate ORS with GGGB. Mind you, GGGB is not some mindless sick fetish game either because THERE is a good Ashley path where you can end up be married with Eric, Dave, Jess, or even Jack. You want ORS to be realistic, play it that way! There is paths where Lena being lovey dovey with either Ian or Holly. There is a choice where Lena tells her friends what her desire is and we have so many options to choose (sex with a girl, exhibitionism, dominated, bbc, etc).
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Right, because it's entirely realistic that Holly is gonna go all over for BBC in one chapter, same wtih Cinders. Along with Stan getting laid and having the best sex he's had in his short life and have the stamina to satisfy Lena, not to mention our so called bro Jeremy getting cott gree over and over again for his cheating, same apply for Lena and her sleeping around and not getting called out by Ian.
And yes, GGGB is a sick fetish game, specially when Eric came back from the fucking grave (which made zero fucking sense), it was literally just shoved in BBC and fetish content up the wazzoo after that.
Holly is a blank canvas. Ivy and Lena can paint her whatever they want. If you let Ivy influenced Holly, she will easily throw her body around to guys to feel worthy. If you let Ian or Lena to influence Holly, she will be all lovey dovey with them. One compliment from Marcel and she's all geeked up. With Ivy influence, there's a decent chance that Holly to sleep with Marcel. Hell, even Robert can get a piece of her too. She's easily influenced, it'sup to you how she will be guided throughout the game.
Cindy being bbc fetish where? Her potential partners are Ian and Axel. Those two are very realistic in terms of story too. Axel being the one who gets Cindy the modelling job, Ian being the one who encourages her pursuing her dreams and be in her side providing emotional support all the time.
To your Jeremy point, he can be busted and break up with Louise if Lena tell Louise that he's seeing Ivy too. So I don't really know what to complain there.
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Funny thing is,Ivy actually got not only sex scenes but got to flirt with Ian in chapter 11.
The character got alot of content recently but because shes not sucking Ian balls on the streets EK is the evil.
The headcanon you people have about this game and Evakiss is insane.
The character got alot of content recently but because shes not sucking Ian balls on the streets EK is the evil.
The headcanon you people have about this game and Evakiss is insane.
- Oct 29, 2017
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Says the person hating on Holly and wanting your small dick idol Stan to slam her.Funny thing is,Ivy actually got not only sex scenes but got to flirt with Ian in chapter 11.
The character got alot of content recently but because shes not sucking Ian balls on the streets EK is the evil.
The headcanon you people have about this game and Evakiss is insane.
Never said anything about sucking Ian's Balls. Said about them actually hooking up, like on a date, getting to actually know each other instead of having some jackass so called friend be around them.
But then again, the light bulb of certain ones around here aren't that bright in the reading context.
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Why a slut like Ivy would have the dates with Ian?LMAO
Like i said,your headcanon and reality are different.
Like i said,your headcanon and reality are different.
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Same applies to your small dick fantasy of Stan and Holly, long with Holly getting blacked in one chapter.
Certainly one to talk.