VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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yuvce said:
The problem is Eva focuses too much on making Lena's routes fetish driven, and in addition to it being at the expense of the story, it comes at the expense of the importance of Ian's role in said story. Recently, I've been getting the impression that Ian is more of a deuteragonist. The chapter 11 prologue and epilogue being entirely focused on Lena is proof of that.
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Not a problem for me, and I bet for a lot more people (who like Fem Protag games)
 
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Socrambus said:
...My understanding of the development plan with more frequent smaller updates is more like this:
  1. Ch12 Prologue Alpha - Ian POV mainly MMA
  2. Ch12 Prologue Beta
  3. Ch12 Prologue
  4. Ch12 Ian part Alpha mainly Beach house
  5. Ch12 Ian part Beta
  6. Ch12 Ian part
  7. Ch12 Lena part Alpha
  8. Ch12 Lena part Beta
  9. Ch12 Lena part
  10. Ch12 Epilogue Alpha ( she didn't explicitly mention it when she explained her new approach, but probably Lena POV)
  11. Ch12 Epilogue Beta
  12. Ch12 Epilogue
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Uhmm... How many fucking updates will CH12 have? Did I miss an announcement or something bcz IIRC EK mentioned that she will continue this current CH11 trend of updating which is
  1. Prologue (alpha, beta, full version)
  2. CH Alpha
  3. CH Beta (bugs and fixes of alpha)
  4. CH Final (bugs and fixes of complete CH)
  5. Epilogue (Alpha, beta, Complete)
Alpha containing new scenes and Beta and final/complete versions are just bugs and fixes with a new scene sometime as an exception(like Jack scene in epilogue complete version on non-cheating route where Lena can cheat if she previously didn't). That's exactly the case, check changelog in OP. But you are are saying that there is going to be a Lena's part alpha, beta and Ian's part alpha, beta? Do correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Uhmm... How many fucking updates will CH12 have? Did I miss an announcement or something bcz IIRC EK mentioned that she will continue this current CH11 trend of updating which is
  1. Prologue (alpha, beta, full version)
  2. CH Alpha
  3. CH Beta (bugs and fixes of alpha)
  4. CH Final (bugs and fixes of complete CH)
  5. Epilogue (Alpha, beta, Complete)
Alpha containing new scenes and Beta and final/complete versions are just bugs and fixes with a new scene sometime as an exception(like Jack scene in epilogue complete version on non-cheating route where Lena can cheat if she previously didn't). That's exactly the case, check changelog in OP. But you are are saying that there is going to be a Lena's part alpha, beta and Ian's part alpha, beta? Do correct me if I'm wrong.
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What she said:

With chapter 11 I switched things up a bit, more out of neccessity than by design, releasing the Prologue, then the Chapter, then the Epilogue, which allowed me to pack quite some content I wanted to include. I've decided to go with a similar strategy when it comes to Chapter 12.

My plan is to release a sort of Prologue, that will finally cover the anticipated MMA tournament, aside from moving the plot forward with several character relationships, and will also have a scene you might not be expecting. My goal is to release this update before December.

After that, I will publish Ian's part of the chapter, that will depict the anticipated trip to Perry's Beach house. And once that's out, I will take care of Lena's part, for which I have some big events in mind.
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So my understanding is Prologue first before december, after that Ian's part of chapter 12 with the beach house stuff. And finally Lena's part of chapter 12. It's not explicity stated, but I'm assuming the usual alpha-beta-final cycle for each release. And I'm also assuming there will be a prologue, but maybe not and it's chapter 13 after that.
 
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Socrambus said:
What she said:



So my understanding is Prologue first before december, after that Ian's part of chapter 12 with the beach house stuff. And finally Lena's part of chapter 12. It's not explicity stated, but I'm assuming the usual alpha-beta-final cycle for each release. And I'm also assuming there will be a prologue, but maybe not and it's chapter 13 after that.
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Than I think CH12 Prologue Ian's POV, CH12 Alpha will contain Ian's and Lena's part and Beta will have remaining Lena's part with bug fixes and than final CH12 final/complete will have all bug fixes of CH12 + a scene or two which was missing than we will have CH12 Epilogue alpha(new content featuring Ian's POV), beta and final/complete CH12 and this follows the current trend of CH10 and CH11.
 
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Than I think CH12 Alpha will contain Ian's and Lena's part and Beta will have remaining Lena's part with bug fixes and than final CH12 final/complete will have all bug fixes of CH12 + a scene or two which was missing than we will have CH12 Epilogue alpha(new content featuring Ian), beta and final/complete CH12 and this follows the current trend of CH10 and CH11.
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I don't know, she explicitly said that she's changing things for chapter 12, basically going for shorter developmen cycles and more frequent releases. It doesn't make sense to me (as a developer) to release an alpha with just Ian's part and a beta adding Lena's part. But I might be misunderstanding things.
 
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Socrambus said:
I don't know, she explicitly said that she's changing things for chapter 12, basically going for shorter developmen cycles and more frequent releases. It doesn't make sense to me (as a developer) to release an alpha with just Ian's part and a beta adding Lena's part. But I might be misunderstanding things.
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NO no! I meant alpha will feature Ian's AND Lena's POV's and beta will have remaining content of Lena's POV and bug fixes of alpha than final version of Ch12 will have remaining bug fixes of CH12 beta and alpha and than epilogue alpha beta and complete.

We'll see how EK will do things but these are just speculations of mine based on CH10 and 11 as both follow this exact trend but things may change a bit as EK mentioned update will be shorter and frequent so than YES! your speculation will be true that Ian and Lena will have their separate POV's alpha beta and final as you mentioned in the 2nd last post.
 
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If I chose for Ian to have a relationship with Holly and she asked me to have sex with all the guys, I wouldn't object if it helps her feel more confident. The only thing I would say is to do your sex marathons responsibly. I'm worried about her health
 
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Is it possible for Ian to talk with Holly about his dream about Gilian. I can't seem to get it. It is always unavailable to choose.
 
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Petro28 said:
Is it possible for Ian to talk with Holly about his dream about Gilian. I can't seem to get it. It is always unavailable to choose.
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The rough condition is that he only open up to her if he fully commits to her and doesn't have relationship with other women. This includes Gillian and he can have feelings for her back in chapter 2.
He needs to have found his peace with Gillian which requires him to stop thinking abou her in chapter 2. This is only possible if he got a Will point, so he needed to sleep with Alison/Cherry or deescalated things with Robert (which only gives a Willpoint in recent updates).
 
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IIRC EK mentioned that the one getting Prologue will get Epilogue so, Ian will get CH12 epilogue too. I can't remember exactly where she said this but it was recently. It may be something like this:
  1. Ch12 Prologue - IAN
  2. Ch12 Alpha - IAN or LENA
  3. Ch12 Beta - LENA or IAN
  4. Ch12 Epilogue - IAN
  5. Ch13 Prologue - LENA
  6. Ch13 Alpha - IAN or LENA
  7. Ch13 Beta - LENA or IAN
  8. Ch13 Epilogue - LENA
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Does game end ch 13?
 
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jimul18 said:
Very unlikely. Wrong game my friend. DP sure but anything more hardcore doubt it...
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Maybe it used to be, but the Epilogue has two BBC scenes that don't even make sense or have a proper build up, not to mention Eva's own stated emphasis on as many fetishes as possible in later episodes. All in all, it's getting to the point where the game can turn into the fuckfest that GGGB was.
 
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Eva may do what you desire to satisfy the *sigh* unwashed masses....but from what I have heard here about her disappointment at the results of her poll.... she is poised to lead Lena (for thos who want it) into a deepening darkening intensifying Story of O situation.
 
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