VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 13.1 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Leongen43]

we already had 12 chapters for build up with all relationships with every girl and also for lena

I think its time that the corruption finally start and the game gets more kinky

I'm looking forward to it, cuckolding, gangbang, orgies, bukkake, golden shower and a double anal friendship scene with Jeremy, Ian with Lena or Holly, will there be offers for lubricants and rubber gloves because Ian never has much money?

 

[SerHawkes]

Not sure you will follow me on this but please just consider:
=> if you play the game carefully, Ian does not ask Lena to explain what happened with Cherry and in that case, there was officially NO threesome with Cherry and Axel.
=> If you deny Ivy, nothing happened between them apart from training to kiss (innocent enough) and if you turn down the cigarette on chapter 11 epilogue, Ivy expands on how Lena was the nerdest of nerds in her youth.

GRANTED:

- if you fool around with Ivy, then yes they did things in her youth + if Ian offers to listen, Lena had a threesome with Axel and Cherry + if you accept the fag, you were a naughty teenager.

=> I come back to my initial post:

Read the thoughts and dialogs of Lena in the first chapters carefully: is this the kind of girl that did crazy stuff in high school ? Is this the kind of girl that fools around easily ? Is this the kind of girl that accepts threesomes from her boyfriend easily ?

Sorry but No. That slut side from Lena comes from nowhere if she fucks Robert. Goodness gracious, even the line, when she invites Robert for drinks sounds wrong compared to anything we have read before about her.

So a girl can't have two sides to her? She has to be either a total nerd or a total slut? She can't be both?

Finding a bit reaching here.

 

[lucadiadis]

I think the writing is actually more subtle than that -- when Lena tells Ian about how her relationship with Axel was full of drama and jealousy, you can potentially interpret this as Lena being sexually open and chafing under Axel's demands. That is to say, Axel's jealousy and drama wasn't necessarily something completely unfounded. In latter chapters there's also pretty obvious mentions of events which suggest Lena even way before wasn't some sort of shy virginal flower who would panic at the thought of a penis.

Lena in first chapter is smarting from being cheated on, but it doesn't mean she's "vanilla girl".

I have full respect for the posts I have read from you, you seem to be the forum member that understands EK the least unaccurately. But on this, I disagree. I repeat what I've written: play back from the start, read Lena's parts. Anything slutty coming up afterwards is inconsistent.

 

[lucadiadis]

So a girl can't have two sides to her? She has to be either a total nerd or a total slut? She can't be both?

Finding a bit reaching here.

Two things:
- I was not disserting on the essence of women here, I was talking about what was credible AND not credible in THAT specific game. Of course women and men can have dozens of sides. All I'm saying is that as far as this game is concerned, only the vanilla version is well written. Any dark side added is not philosophically or morally unwelcome, but artistically and narativelly not well brought.
- I will make one exception: hanging to Axel. Having played several paths, the most narratively credible option with a darker side is a vanilla Lena who ends up cheating on Ian with Axel because she did not get over him. This path is believable.

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

Not sure you will follow me on this but please just consider:
=> if you play the game carefully, Ian does not ask Lena to explain what happened with Cherry and in that case, there was officially NO threesome with Cherry and Axel.
=> If you deny Ivy, nothing happened between them apart from training to kiss (innocent enough) and if you turn down the cigarette on chapter 11 epilogue, Ivy expands on how Lena was the nerdest of nerds in her youth.

GRANTED:

- if you fool around with Ivy, then yes they did things in her youth + if Ian offers to listen, Lena had a threesome with Axel and Cherry + if you accept the fag, you were a naughty teenager.

=> I come back to my initial post:

Read the thoughts and dialogs of Lena in the first chapters carefully: is this the kind of girl that did crazy stuff in high school ? Is this the kind of girl that fools around easily ? Is this the kind of girl that accepts threesomes from her boyfriend easily ?

Sorry but No. That slut side from Lena comes from nowhere if she fucks Robert. Goodness gracious, even the line, when she invites Robert for drinks sounds wrong compared to anything we have read before about her.

The way she fucks with Robert and Jeremy, she could honestly give lessons to the best porn stars, especially when it comes to busting her ass, so you're wrong, Lena is a born slut

 

[ffive]

I have full respect for the posts I have read from you, you seem to be the forum member that understands EK the least unaccurately. But on this, I disagree. I repeat what I've written: play back from the start, read Lena's parts. Anything slutty coming up afterwards is inconsistent.

We'll have indeed to disagree on this. I think it's a mistake not to consider Lena/Axel/Cherry canonical event no matter if Ian is told about it or not. Similarly it's not optional that 19 year old Lena had an affair with college professor 20 years her senior, that involved foot play and water sports. Lena is, simply put, not Holly. She likes to read books and have some time for herself, but it doesn't mean she's a nerdy shut-in with little to no sexual experiences or appetite.

 

[lucadiadis]

The way she fucks with Robert and Jeremy, she could honestly give lessons to the best porn stars, especially when it comes to busting her ass, so you're wrong, Lena is a born slut

Glad to see see people reply to posts without even trying to understand them. We're still on a porn forum.

 

[lucadiadis]

We'll have indeed to disagree on this. I think it's a mistake not to consider Lena/Axel/Cherry canonical event no matter if Ian is told about it or not. Similarly it's not optional that 19 year old Lena had an affair with college professor 20 years her senior, that involved foot play and water sports. Lena is, simply put, not Holly. She likes to read books and have some time for herself, but it doesn't mean she's a nerdy shut-in with little to no sexual experiences or appetite.

We definitely have to disagree indeed. With a Chad Ian who does not like foot job, the story with the professor never happened. My disagreement is backed by facts, again with genuine respect for you.

 

[SerHawkes]

We definitely have to disagree indeed. With a Chad Ian who does not like foot job, the story with the professor never happened. My disagreement is backed by my own interperation of the text presented, again with genuine respect for you.

Fixed for you.

There is no such things as facts here. Your interperting the text one way while others are seeing it different.

 

[yuvce]

We definitely have to disagree indeed. With a Chad Ian who does not like foot job, the story with the professor never happened. My disagreement is backed by facts, again with genuine respect for you.

Just because you don't see something happen or hear about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. By that logic, all ORS events that happened offscreen are actually false. Chad Ian not wanting to hear about Lena's weirdo professor doesn't make it non-canon.

 

[SerHawkes]

Just because you don't see something happen or hear about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. By that logic, all ORS events that happened offscreen are actually false. Chad Ian not wanting to hear about Lena's weirdo professor doesn't make it non-canon.

Thus meaning Ivy's a true virgin!!!

 

[lucadiadis]

Fixed for you.

There is no such things as facts here. Your interperting the text one way while others are seeing it different.

Absolutely not and I think you both give it less importance then it has in the game:
- A chad Ian who leaves Lena alone about the fuss with Cherry means NO threesome with Axel.
- A Chad Ian who doesnt like footbjob means NO college professor and watersports.

This is crucial, and I know EK plays with this.

Just look at the criteria for Lena to reply to Ian that she did or did not piss on the professor, I hope you will see what I mean.

 

[lucadiadis]

Just because you don't see something happen or hear about it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. By that logic, all ORS events that happened offscreen are actually false. Chad Ian not wanting to hear about Lena's weirdo professor doesn't make it non-canon.

That is where we disagree: In EK's universe, the choices you make do not just hide some facts from you, they substantially alter facts. Just look at how the whole story changes with just Lena refusing or accepting a cigarette: two different life stories. You cannot avoid to take this into consideration.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Absolutely not and I think you both give it less importance then it has in the game:
- A chad Ian who leaves Lena alone about the fuss with Cherry means NO threesome with Axel.
- A Chad Ian who doesnt like footbjob means NO college professor and watersports.

This is crucial, and I know EK plays with this.

Just look at the criteria for Lena to reply to Ian that she did or did not piss on the professor, I hope you will see what I mean.

I don't like dive into conversation midway but when do they mentioned that weirdo professor? I kinda missed that entirely.

 

[SerHawkes]

I don't like dive into conversation midway but when do they mentioned that weirdo professor? I kinda missed that entirely.

If memory serves, cuck path with Ian and him getting a footjob.

 

[ffive]

I don't like dive into conversation midway but when do they mentioned that weirdo professor? I kinda missed that entirely.

In Ch.11 Lena gives Ian a footjob, and is apparently very skilled at it. Ian can inquire about where she's learned that and if he's on full cuck path he'll also hear some extra details.

 

[| Vee |]

First it was just a joke and then I saw a post of yours where there were images when you published Seymour where it is clearly seen that you use jmod, as I said before it is just a joke, each person plays as they feel most comfortable

I know you were joking that's why I only replied to comment related to Jmod.
I seriously don't use Jmod, just URM and Choice descriptor. Don't know what you see in Seymour pics posted by me.

 

[lucadiadis]

I don't like dive into conversation midway but when do they mentioned that weirdo professor? I kinda missed that entirely.

I suspect you still have a couple of paths to experience on this game. May I respectfully suggest you grab any of the walkthroughs available and try your luck when you have spare time. I guess you never got to Lbna saying: " your cock is special to me Ian, it's the only one I won't fuck".

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

If memory serves, cuck path with Ian and him getting a footjob.

In Ch.11 Lena gives Ian a footjob, and is apparently very skilled at it. Ian can inquire about where she's learned that and if he's on full cuck path he'll also hear some extra details.

Oh thanks, never been on the cuck path, so all I know someone from her past was into footjob. Did not even choose that option second time, 'cause did not feel like appropriate.

 

[SerHawkes]

Oh thanks, never been on the cuck path, so all I know someone from her past was into footjob. Did not even choose that option second time, 'cause did not feel like appropriate.

Same. Cuck path is for the weak. Refuse to go on it. Specially with a Temptress waiting for her future daddy.