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ffive

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Technically yes,but there is little difference between love and lust with Emma. There is no emotional weight to it. She isn't commiting to anyone. She lives and loves in the moment, so when she is saying she loves Ian, she mostly loves the sex they currently have.
I feel like this is choosing to ignore what the game shows and tells you in favor of your own interpretation of the character. The game describes this flag as:
Python:
default ian_emma_love = 0                 # Ian corresponds Emma's feelings (2= make love, accept feelings / 1= talk feelings / 0.5= call her out)
which makes it pretty clear that "Emma's feelings" is love for Ian. To say that she actually doesn't love Ian for real because she typically gets in casual relationships so that means her feelings have no weight and isn't some "real love"... is very arbitrary and dismissive. When Ian can very well be a guy she does develop deep feelings for (and reveals them at this point)
 

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I feel like this is choosing to ignore what the game shows and tells you in favor of your own interpretation of the character. The game describes this flag as:
Python:
default ian_emma_love = 0                 # Ian corresponds Emma's feelings (2= make love, accept feelings / 1= talk feelings / 0.5= call her out)
which makes it pretty clear that "Emma's feelings" is love for Ian. To say that she actually doesn't love Ian for real because she typically gets in casual relationships so that means her feelings have no weight and isn't some "real love"... is very arbitrary and dismissive. When Ian can very well be a guy she does develop deep feelings for (and reveals them at this point)
She's not really that subtle either:

Python:
            p "So you're against m--{w=0.5}monogamous relationships?"
            $ femma = "n"
            e "No, not at all! I think I'd like to have one, if I meet the right person..."
            $ fperry = "meh"
            $ flena = "n"
            $ holly = "n"
            $ fian = "smile"
            h "And... What would that person have to be like?"
            e "He has to be your best friend, first and foremost... That's the most important thing."
            e "Someone you can be yourself with, the real you."
            e "You should be able to balance each other out too..."
            if v12_emma_sex1 or v12_emma_flirt:
                $ femma = "flirt"
                "Emma briefly looked at me."
                e "And if the sex is the bomb too... I mean, what else is there to ask for?"
                $ femma = "n"
                if ian_emma_love:
                    e "I would date a guy like that."
Python:
            if ian_emma_love:
                show v12_emma12b with long
                e "Ian... You drive me crazy... I..."
                if ian_emma_love == 0.5:
                    i "What? Come on, tell me... Say it already."
                e "I think I'm in love with you...!"
Python:
            e "Well, today is even better."
            i "Yeah? Why's that?"
            e "Because we're still all together after all these years. Closer than ever..."
            $ femma = "smile"
            e "Especially you and me."
            hide emma_sparkler with long
            if ian_emma_love:
                i "Closer in many ways, yeah... I'm also really glad about that."
                e "I always liked you, but had I known we'd have so much chemistry, I would've made a move much sooner."
                $ fian = "confident"
                i "I think it was me who made a move on you that night at Blazer."
                e "Really? I'd say it was mutual... Why do you think I decided to dress up all sexy? I was hoping to entice you..."
                i "Well, you did. And now I can't get enough of you."
She was always attracted to Ian, they have great sex several times and during the beach time she clearly has already fallen for him. And once she tells Perry, they would be officially dating, at least for their group of friends. I wonder about Cindy's reaction when she gets the news.
 
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Somebody posted the soundtrack here a while ago, but I'm trying to find the track that played in the prologue when Ian and Lena meet for the first time, in earlier builds of the game. It played during other emotional moments as well, but as of now it seems to have been completely removed. It wasn't in the official OST folder provided by the user here. It's a melancholic guitar tune, sounds really beautiful. Does anyone know the name of the track or know a way to find it? Greatly appreciate it.
 

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but as of now it seems to have been completely removed
Yeah, some of the tracks seems to have been replaced. E.g. when Ian looks at Gillian's pictures early on had a very different, haunting track that is now gone. I keep a copy of 10.3 version of the game just to still be able to listen to it sometimes.

That said, the intro has a new track added to it, but the one which was in 10.3 is still there, it just plays early on, during your first dialogue choice. I don't know if there was something different there earlier, as i don't have even older builds to compare it with.
 

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Somebody posted the soundtrack here a while ago, but I'm trying to find the track that played in the prologue when Ian and Lena meet for the first time, in earlier builds of the game. It played during other emotional moments as well, but as of now it seems to have been completely removed. It wasn't in the official OST folder provided by the user here. It's a melancholic guitar tune, sounds really beautiful. Does anyone know the name of the track or know a way to find it? Greatly appreciate it.
If you want access to the game's files, follow these instructions on adding a Ren'py decompiler. https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-ch-12-3-beta-eva-kiss.48813/post-12996422 With that said, the OST you're describing is most probably broken dreams.
 

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You can try finding it in older version?
https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-ch-12-3-beta-eva-kiss.48813/post-5918246
somehow mediafire link still works.
It didn't occur to me that older versions would still be available to download. This build hadn't yet feature the track, so it must've been one to come out around 2022 (I'm guessing chapter 9 or 10). Thank you for the insight man, I'll look for more versions around this thread.
EDIT: The search is over, thank you so much for your help. This is the track for anyone wondering. Eva please put it back in the game, it was one of the best in the OST!
 
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So we won't have the 'Final' version of this episode? Usually, the final versions were the same episode but with bugs fixed and 1-2 extra scenes. Is EvaKiss planning to include Lena's part in this next update? Version 12.4 Alpha?
 

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It's starting to get as dry as Minerva's pussy. Updates better arrive quickly.
Still mad that mommy minerva dosent kick ians balls or would be full blackmail/femdom route would also be insane with holly if the would be together and minvera harras him ......

Also not only insane synergy with holly also book contest ...


Mate she was the definition of seymore for ian....

But no mommy minvera is just another generic pussy for chad ian to conquer ....:cry::cry:like he dosent has enough already ..
 
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So we won't have the 'Final' version of this episode? Usually, the final versions were the same episode but with bugs fixed and 1-2 extra scenes. Is EvaKiss planning to include Lena's part in this next update? Version 12.4 Alpha?
EK is still working on the final version, since it's going to include an epilogue. Afterwards we get 13.0 alpha with Lena's side. Supposedly a bit faster since it's being worked on together with the epilogue for Ch.12. Plus, all the insane plot combinations from the beach trip are resolved one way or another.
 

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EK is still working on the final version, since it's going to include an epilogue. Afterwards we get 13.0 alpha with Lena's side. Supposedly a bit faster since it's being worked on together with the epilogue for Ch.12. Plus, all the insane plot combinations from the beach trip are resolved one way or another.
Looking forward to a lot of plot resolutions in the epilogue. Some I'm most interested in are: Lena and Ian's dynamic after they broke up because of cheating, the groups reaction to the newly formed throuple, Perry's reaction to finding out about Ian and Emma, the group's reaction to Ian and Lena deciding to open their relationship. Just to name a few.
 
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Imagine a game where you can be successful, a total chad. But people get disappointed that game isn't as miserable as their reality.

If my girl doesn't degrade and humiliate me, it's boring.

It's like reading Perry, Mods should block accounts or limit comments from autistic people.

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Imagine playing a game where you can have choices, and make interesting scenarios and situations. But people like Lavinotinto like self-inserting as the MC, thinking they're actually successful and chads.

If I can't imagine myself as a total chad, it's boring.

It's even more pathetic than Perry, having such a miserable life that they can only play as "chads" in a game to feel something. Unlike Lavinotinto, I don't call people I disagree with as autistic, nor do I support blocking people who are actually autistic.
 

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Well there are plenty of games where you are a chad that bangs everyone with even greater degree of power fantasy. This game aint exactly great for the NTR crowd since its not extreme or dramatic enough for that as of the time of writing because not enough drama far as i am concerned, although the corruption aspect is pretty nice not gonna lie. The appeal for me is the whole acting as matchmaker and deciding who gets laid and who does not. Avoidable NTR is neat because it usually allows for this but like i could be a ghost that gets other people to bang and still works out for me, the whole seeing the multiple possible outcomes( so long as they are expanded upon) and the whole concept of the sheer number of ways something can go is what i find entertaining, otherwise i might as well just a VN with fancier plot. Just stating my opinion and wish there were more games where you could act as a matchmaker of sorts, corruption is also pretty neat allthough i find it lackluster as female protag. As someone stated ages ago, what saves this game is the structure rather than the plot depth and i agree with that person.
 
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Imagine a game where you can be successful, a total chad. But people get disappointed that game isn't as miserable as their reality.

If my girl doesn't degrade and humiliate me, it's boring.

It's like reading Perry, Mods should block accounts or limit comments from autistic people.
You can have power and cuck fantasy, what matters is how if its written. There is enough room in the fetish world for both.
Are you kinkshaming those who want a loser MC and don't want a chad MC that gets a harem?

The game balances both aspects well. Ian isn't a god, but not a pushover either.

Compared with other games, where either MC is the most spineless victim or a power fantasy that collects a harem with zero effort while all the rivales are incredible pathetic and easily dealt with (or allowed to get a girl out of good will of the MC), ORS is miled ahead of the curve.
 
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