Patience is a virtue.bro we need new update
Kind of...Patience is a virtue.
Hence why Patience is a Virtue. The struggle is real. I would fucking know. I've been waiting for Ivy-Ian for 9 damn chapters. Though I will admit, the patience is indeed running thin. But with updates, the notion is simple: IT WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!Kind of...
If it was like 2 concept art/uncompleted lineart a week then patience is virtue because you'd know what you're waiting for. whereas 2 posts with one completed image can sometimes just be like a letdown so patience may be virture but patience for too long and for unknown reason/ end result can be very frustrating.
Well of course EvaKiss can do what she wants. But doing such a large re-writing after you have already published a round 45% to 50% of the story is a bit unlucky and as mentioned already by others it doesn’t make her work easier for the future.If Eva thinks Stan is worth it, then it is so, because what some people can't seem to realize, Eva wants to write what she likes. Writing something you don't enjoy is what truly not worth it. And no novel of decent quality has been written "first try", without multiple revisions or rewrites of chapters or even entire storylines.
You said it yourself, Stan had quite a few fans who liked his appearance and story until chapter 9 and were eager to see how his story progressed prior to the rewrite/restructuring of his character, at the moment it is uncertain if he would be able to maintain that popularity especially among those who have been able to play and see Stan before the rewrite.Personally, I'll still ignore Stan. I'm not interested in that type of characters. But he has his audience, he was 3rd place in popularity contest last year despite EK not liking how she wrote him
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Regular re-writes can kill the potential of a story-oriented game like ORS, especially if they are significant enough to alter the story as a whole. Players have already established their headcanon since we're roughly halfway through the game's development, and if you suddenly go back and change large chunks of the game, it will mess up with their perception. Simply put, the players are familiar with the established characters, and changing them too much is never a good idea.I for one don't mind a rewrite every 3-4 updates. I think it gives a break to Eva to refine the plot, reworks some paths, slow down a bit, figure out where to go next to.
Kind of a step back to look at what you've done, where you're going, etc.
And it's more manageable that way than having to redo everything from scratch at the end of the game (as BloodyMares pointed it out once or twice already).
And again, as he said, that's actually something that happen with any and every work in progress. You guys would be shocked how some of your favorites movies, books, hell even VNs, got a last minute BIG change that shaped it the way it was and made it that thing you like so much. Except because you only ever saw the finished product, you never learned about the creative struggles. It's part of the process.
We just have to give Eva some credits. So far, she has mostly delivered, and imo deserves the trust.
Let's be honest here, looking at that line-up even the gangbanger from GGGB would come third. Hell, he'd come first. Most of those 'characters' are literally just stereotypes, and not too interesting ones either.Personally, I'll still ignore Stan. I'm not interested in that type of characters. But he has his audience, he was 3rd place in popularity contest last year despite EK not liking how she wrote him
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Surprised to see Jeremy but I agree 100% feel like he should've maybe got his own route over Stan. I am even more surprised with Perry being 4th to me Perry is the holy fuck is the dude's unbearable character didn't know a lot of people vibe with him.Personally, I'll still ignore Stan. I'm not interested in that type of characters. But he has his audience, he was 3rd place in popularity contest last year despite EK not liking how she wrote him
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But wasn't the 'complexity', the vast amount of hugely different choices what people liked about GGGB? Isn't that exactly what puts its above any other game? The problem with the end wasn't so much its inconsistancy but the need to come up with something new, with ever more over the top scenes.Instead of trying to make everyone matter it's better to make some characters shine more than others if your writing style is "go with the flow and see where it takes me". Now, since she's spent so much time on revamping Stan, she has one more character to fit in the grand scheme of things. Sunk cost fallacy.
Ultimately I do not care, nor I have any urge to tell someone how to write their own game, but it's like Eva forgot the lessons from writing GGGB and has to discover complex story pathing yet again. At this point either she narrows down or she's gonna end up with a convoluted clusterfuck, unable to progress, which could already be the case, at least to some degree considering she's doing a revamp in the middle of the story that no one has asked for.
So ... you want EvaKiss to stop wasting effort on 'side' characters and put more effort in one other character? Why? Just because you happen to be into Ivy?I can agree with that. Trying to make some characters shine and add them to the grand scheme not only adds issues down the road in possible consistency but also makes neglecting other characters as well (Ivy -cough cough-) while simply trying to make a character "appear" better. Not every one of these Side Characters (Stan, Robert, Mike, etc) doesn't really need to be worked on if they simply are meant to be some side character or in Stans case, a real nobody character.
How so? You could only vote once for every character.That poll got screwed up because people could vote multiple times, so I suspect hardcore trolling. The top four is baiscly crowded with the least attractive men in the game. (Back then Seymour was a somewhat boring old photographer with no clear agenda.)It's not even a matter of taste.
lord, people really have a black dude fetish.Personally, I'll still ignore Stan. I'm not interested in that type of characters. But he has his audience, he was 3rd place in popularity contest last year despite EK not liking how she wrote him
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I might remember this exact poll wrong, but I'm 100% sure there was a poll about favourite cast that was hijacked. But I kinda hope you are right, as hijacking a porn game poll is new-level pathetic. But.. Also, if this poll is accurate my hope for humanity is lost, Stan and PerryHow so? You could only vote once for every character.
They are 3rd and 4th out of seven. They got 18% and 13% of the votes, and beat Axel, Mark, Wade and Robert, not exactly the most sympathetic characters in the game. So I can't really see any foul play.I might remember this exact poll wrong, but I'm 100% sure there was a poll about favourite cast that was hijacked. But I kinda hope you are right, as hijacking a porn game poll is new-level pathetic. But.. Also, if this poll is accurate my hope for humanity is lost, Stan and Perry? I can kinda understand Jeremy, if you are a POC and want some representation, but otherwise that's just as mind boggling. Then again, im not here to police content or peoples tase. I'm just very suprised.
Who said that revisiting past content isn't part of Eva writing the story the way she wants to write and taking the time to polish it? You'd have a point if said revisions were done because of someone's influence, but that's not the case here.IMO, Eva's best course of action is to take the time she needs to write the story as she wants instead of revisiting past content every couple of updates.
IIRC, the poll wasn't about the most likeable male character, but also the most entertaining one (you love to hate). And Perry is the most entertaining male character in the game. I challenge anyone to prove me wrong. One time he helps you get the girl's contact info, another you want to strangle him for ratting you out to said girl, then he roasts Jeremy in the most hilarious way possible and also has a massive crush on Axel.I might remember this exact poll wrong, but I'm 100% sure there was a poll about favourite cast that was hijacked. But I kinda hope you are right, as hijacking a porn game poll is new-level pathetic. But.. Also, if this poll is accurate my hope for humanity is lost, Stan and Perry? I can kinda understand Jeremy, if you are a POC and want some representation, but otherwise that's just as mind boggling. Then again, im not here to police content or peoples tase. I'm just very suprised.
I'm not so sure about this in regards to Stan's revamp. Eva herself said she didn't like Stan and found him boring - and she acknowledged that people were complaining about the lack of "good" male options for Lena, outside of Ian.You'd have a point if said revisions were done because of someone's influence, but that's not the case here.