Gicoo

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Now I'm curious to see everyone's headcanon for major ORS NPCs if Ian and Lena didn't exist. Like, what would they do and who would they be with (if anyone).
I don't get your question.
Holly gets hit on Clark.
Cindy gets seduced by Axel and would stay with Wade otherwise.
Alison has to accept Jeremy for a superficial but okay partner to relieve herself.
Cherry relapses to Axel.
Minerva stays with her husband.
Emma has a fuckbuddie and is content with it, since she doesn't seem to look out for a partner.
Louise keeps finding wrong guys that just exploit her since she is too naive and instabil for a stable relationship.
Ivy gets enough guys, Billy is a promising partner. She could also end up with Axel assuming Lena doesn't exist, since she is the main reason why Ivy stays away from him (apparantly as of now).

Seymour gets whatever girl to sugardad.
Wade loses Cindy and joins Perry in wasting their lives all day.
Mike keeps his okayish girlfriend.
Robert gets some average girl since he is actually doing well on his own and not a loser, as much as his creator wants you to tell otherwise.
Without Lena as a distraction, Stan is redpilled by Ians dad, cleans up, loses weight, takes a shower and gets Bad Jessica, Ivy, Cindy, Emma, Human Catgirl Lola, Succubus Lena and Good Jessica.
 

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So trying this out

How is this compared to GGGB?

Can you choose only female or male path or switch mid way?

Is there similar corruption of F-protag like in GGGD?
 
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Gicoo

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So trying this out

How is this compared to GGGB?

Can you choose only female or male path or switch mid way?

Is there similar corruption of F-protag like in GGGD?
More down to earth and sitcomlike and less crazy, you keep switching between both throughout the story, less exaggerated and more subtle but the options exist.
 

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So trying this out

How is this compared to GGGB?

Can you choose only female or male path or switch mid way?

Is there similar corruption of F-protag like in GGGD?
Visual Better, though the story and characters are meh.

You play both, swapping at certain points.
 

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Visual Better, though the story and characters are meh.

You play both, swapping at certain points.
can i ask what games do you put as top games in renpy? cuz i also regard ORS as top tier in renpy engine so im curious.
I'm looking to play a renpy game now, who knows maybe i haven't play your top tier games and come to like it
 

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So trying this out

How is this compared to GGGB?

Can you choose only female or male path or switch mid way?

Is there similar corruption of F-protag like in GGGD?
It's hard to compare. The art is superior...the dual protag storylines make the storytelling a little more complicated as Eva is forced to take the choices you make as one character and apply them to the next character's section over the same time period (where/when there is overlap)

The corruption stories are less engaging/hot so far...but then GGGB is finished, whereas this game I think is closer to halfway done, so too early to put a final grade on it yet.

Right now I'd rank GGGB slightly higher...but ORS could certainly get there. Although I don't know how it could hit the heights of the mom/dtr/new husband storyline in GGGB...that one was excellent.
 

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Eva's Thug whore path was also included as an Easter Egg in one of the porn pics when Lena looks up BBC porn. It doesn't mean that Eva is canonically a thug. It's just a random trashy porn vid with a girl who happens to look like Eva in the place that looks like the thug hideout from GGGB.
"Thug hideout". I kind of love that description. Like a thugnest, if you will. That place where they hatch all the thuglings.

"Yep. Gotta set down traps before they start tearin up the backyard".
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Yeah right. I'm gonna tell my hubby that it wasn't me in that BBC gangbang porn he saw, just some random pornstar who looks exactly like me :ROFLMAO:
This is a post that requires elaboration. :unsure:
 
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Arguably the more unrealistic interactions are that of Ian being a very average guy being able to seduce multiple models that are all 10s.
I'd argue Ian is quite above the average, all things considered -- he's good looking, in very good shape, potentially both intelligent and charming, not a creep, an artist *and* evidently competent in the sack as well. He's mostly held back by his insecurity caused by the experience with Gillian, but it's not really at all weird women would be attracted to him. Actual average guys can't claim half of the strong points Ian has going for him.
 

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I'd argue Ian is quite above the average, all things considered -- he's good looking, in very good shape, potentially both intelligent and charming, not a creep, an artist *and* evidently competent in the sack as well. He's mostly held back by his insecurity caused by the experience with Gillian, but it's not really at all weird women would be attracted to him. Actual average guys can't claim half of the strong points Ian has going for him.
Sure he can be above average, even pretty good by the low standards set by other guys. But still his success in the game is based on player input, ie the gameplay. He wasn't successful with literal models prior to the game starting. With all due respect to Gillian, she isn't exactly as physically attractive as people like Lena or Cindy. To me Ian has always come off as very generic in a main character sense, meant for male players to easily project themselves onto him. He's awkward with insecurities, but also has a lot going for him and can have multiple interest decided by the player, like all of the martial arts stuff, the book writing, or even doing some drugs with the boys.
 

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He wasn't successful with literal models prior to the game starting.
Well, he never tried prior to the game starting -- he was living in a small town, where he got together with Gillian and spent literal years in relationship with her, apparently not hitting on anyone else. But it doesn't mean he wouldn't have been similarly successful, had his life gone differently.

Also, i'll strongly disagree about Gillian not being as attractive as Lena or Cindy. There's nothing about Gillian's appearance that sets her any lower than these two, that isn't purely pesonal preferences (or lack thereof) of the viewer.
 

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Well, he never tried prior to the game starting -- he was living in a small town, where he got together with Gillian and spent literal years in relationship with her, apparently not hitting on anyone else. But it doesn't mean he wouldn't have been similarly successful, had his life gone differently.

Also, i'll strongly disagree about Gillian not being as attractive as Lena or Cindy. There's nothing about Gillian's appearance that sets her any lower than these two, that isn't purely pesonal preferences (or lack thereof) of the viewer.
his life would have been different if he made different choices is a meaningless statement. Stan could be a gigachad if he spent the time he spends jacking it to his roommates in the gym and building his wealth. The point is at the start of the story Ian is single feeling sorry for himself because he got cheated on by his longtime girlfriend. Every achievment regarding his sex life is entirely based on the choices of the player. He can be the epitome of male performances and fuck every women in his immediate circle or he can be a loser getting a handjob from Lena while she talks about Axels cock. It is entirely based on the player's decisions. "he never tried prior to the game starting" him trying after the game starts is also a decison made by the player.

Whether or not Cindy and Lena are more attractive is subjective. besides the fact that the former are both models and Gillian isnt. Perry and the rest of Ians friends are surprised at Ian being able to court Lena purely based on her pictures. If the characters in the story are surprised by Lena's attractiveness and routinely point it out, the story is clearly trying to make a point of how much Ian is upgrading from Gillian.
 

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his life would have been different if he made different choices is a meaningless statement. Stan could be a gigachad if he spent the time he spends jacking it to his roommates in the gym and building his wealth.
I meant it in the sense that theoretical Ian who isn't in relationship with Gillian has all the strong points he shows in the game, thus he's as capable of impressing attractive models as he is in the game. In contrast Stan would need to reinvent himself. from the ground up These are completely different situations.

Perry and the rest of Ians friends are surprised at Ian being able to court Lena purely based on her pictures. If the characters in the story are surprised by Lena's attractiveness and routinely point it out, the story is clearly trying to make a point of how much Ian is upgrading from Gillian.
I think you're misremembering things a bit. None of Ian's friends is surprised by Ian being able to court Lena -- both Jeremy and Perry are supportive early on, and then all Ian's friend congratulate him on having such great girlfriend, but no one questions this as some sort of thing that's unthinkable to happen. Similarly, while Ian's friends are impressed and praise Lena's appearance, no one makes any comment to the effect of Lena being more attractive than Gillian. And you know if that was the case then Perry is too much of a social dumbass not to mention it at least a dozen of times.
 

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Yes, you can. To trigger the dating with Lena you just need to go to the date with her in Chapter 4. During dates in Ch 4 and 5, don't take Ian home and blueball him as much as possible. In Chapter 7 admit to Jeremy that you're falling for Lena, and as Lena cuddle with Ian after the drawing event (don't get mad at Ian for fighting Robert). in Chapter 8 don't fuck Jeremy as Lena as it makes her reject the relationship proposal. And then in Chapter 9, Ian will confess his feelings to Lena and she will accept his relationship proposal. This way, they'll become a couple without ever having sex during the several times they've been hanging out. In Chapter 10 you can either accept Ian's "chastity" in this relationship or you can break up with Lena. If you accept the situation, this locks you into the hard cuck path.
Lena automatically has sex with Ian the morning after cuddling. Can't seem to avoid sex if you work on maxing their relationship.
 

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I'd argue Ian is quite above the average, all things considered -- he's good looking, in very good shape, potentially both intelligent and charming, not a creep, an artist *and* evidently competent in the sack as well. He's mostly held back by his insecurity caused by the experience with Gillian, but it's not really at all weird women would be attracted to him. Actual average guys can't claim half of the strong points Ian has going for him.
No, fatpussy got it right in the regard that Ian is the typical plain average guy that get but magically happens to potenially fuck 7 girls within weeks, something that isn't possible unless you are a model and sex freak with a body count in the four digits or other unconventional circumcstances. It's an improvement over the typical anime story in which MC is a loser who gets mocked, pitied and is hated by 5 girls, but somehow he can score with every one of them if not all of them at once. Still the same basis, since the foundation is a pornographic game with lot's of choices.

He's not above average but plainly not below average that merely fullfills the basics. Good looking? He is just not ugly. Good shape? He can get beaten up reguraly and can only gets muscles in chapter 10, he just istn't overweight like Perry and Stan are.
He isn't a creep, wow, what an acomplishment. He's good in the bed? He can't even get it up.

Holly? Offices usually have fairly boring dry guys since those tend to be who manage to be content in these workplaces, Ian rebelling against Minerva is the outstanding feature that catches her interest since she is overexited of it and regards it as cool and noble when its a double edged sword, since it can also lead him to lose his job.
Alison? Her other choices are Perry and Jeremy. While Jeremy is good if you just want a to droll over, Ian is at least emotional respondent and can listen to her and support here. Again, thats not above average but very basic stuff.

Gillian is inferior to Lena since she is no model and has smaller tits. Mike points out how Lena is hotter than her.

In contrast Stan would need to reinvent himself.
We can all agree that Ian is better than Stan. Is that an accomplishment? No.

I think you're misremembering things a bit. None of Ian's friends is surprised by Ian being able to court Lena -- both Jeremy and Perry are supportive early on, and then all Ian's friend congratulate him on having such great girlfriend, but no one questions this as some sort of thing that's unthinkable to happen.
Perry and Jeremy are surprised that Ian manages to get her attention. Just because they don't question it further doesn't mean that it isn't untypical and unexpected from Ian.
Just because Perry screws up mentioning Gillian one or twice, doesn't mean he constantly has to point out the obvious that Lena is much better than Gillian. Consider that the artstyle misleads in making every female there extremely attractive, when actually there is a difference. Ivy, Cindy, Lena and Cherry are outstanding while Alison, Holly and Gillian are plain.
 
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so is the dev of this game a girl? is this how she sees the world... that guys are all sex-hungry pigs who fuck everything, and women are like sexually exploited (whether lustful or not) by guys all around them for basic things like work at every turn?
"What the Hell are we going to do without men game developers?! You look around this site here, you see all these games, these men developers are doing impossible things. They're under their mom's house, in the basement, working on the game. They're up on the patreon, on the internet, soliciting money from their supporters. They're keeping this impossible infrastructure functioning. This thing that works and in miraculous manner. They work themselves to "Abandoned" tag, and often literally. Very useful to tell to the users here, not just to developers, that they have an important role to play, a necessary role, and if they act properly and honestly and forthrightingly, that they can put their lives together, and that they can help their supporters, and that they can make their communities... better. And that 'toxic discourse', that appaling phrase. That's why women developers are the Dragon of Chaos"
 

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so is the dev of this game a girl? is this how she sees the world... that guys are all sex-hungry pigs who fuck everything, and women are like sexually exploited (whether lustful or not) by guys all around them for basic things like work at every turn?
I mean... it's kind of true, lol.
 
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