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take a chill pill.
I didn't write that she was a cheater before Wade. I wrote that after her cheating on Wade, it is stupid to build a serious relationship with her.
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I didn't write that she was a cheater before Wade. I wrote that after her cheating on Wade, it is stupid to build a serious relationship with her.
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Man, I swear that every time I come back to this thread I find something to debate that doesnt necessarily have to do with the game itself
.The thing is, I actually agree with your points and they are really well thought and put together... However, you are both sort of looking only at the "cheater" and not looking at the other variable: YOU, the guy who is gonna be on that relationship with "Cindy" (for the sake of easier discussion, the name of the woman who cheated is Cindy).
My opinion on this point is very simple: If I start a relationship with a woman, and when I say the start I mean after youre in the boyfriend/girlfriend stage, the woman across from me becomes a blank canvas: I dont care how many dicks she sucked, how many guys she fucked, how many girls she licked or if she cheated or not
.Will I be wary and lets say "scared" on the first few months that she might cheat on me too? YES, but thats default human behaviour to think about the worst even at the best of circumstances. But thats on YOU, if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen
.Its as much about YOUR personality as it is "Cindys" PAST... If you dont have confidence on yourself and the self esteem needed to get over her past you will never be able to actually know her present and future because even if she does everything right by you, your insecurities will always blind you and default you to her past as early as the first time she "has to work late"
. And funnily enough, that will just up the odds of her cheating on you .Concluding: Its difficult and it takes BOTH of you to make it work just like any other relationship... Its all about trust, dialogue and honesty (some good fucking also helps
). Without these 3 main aspects, ANYONE can get cheated on with or without a past of it 
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Yet you said, and I quote: 'Once a Cheater, Always a Cheater'. So you truly assume that Cinders would then cheat on Ian, even if he were to satisfy her needs, desires, passions in life? Reality is calling and it says not happening, unless Ian were to fuck up and push her to doing so.
- Jun 22, 2019
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Such a nice guy.
I won’t even ask how old you are and whether you were once in a serious relationship, because it’s already obvious.
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Right. Gotta love when people who think they know it all go with the claim 'it's already obvious', as if its the arguement ender.
But sure, Cindy, once she breaks up with Wade after a lackluster relationship, who will enjoy Ian's companionship and likely find a rekindled love and spark in her life, will then "OBVIOUSLY" cheat on him with Perry, then Lena, then Stan, who will marry her and have 12 kids, according to your "obvious" branch of logic.
And for the record, I'm 30, have had some serious relationships before yet have broken up mutually and by no means were the partners I was with cheated on me, thank ya much.
They've asked how you learn this before you start dating. Because the whole point was supposedly that one should not date former cheaters. If you need to date a former cheater in order to learn they've cheated then, well, the ship has already sailed on the "you should not date former cheaters" thing.
- Jun 22, 2019
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I do not want to disassemble this naivety about sincere love and pink ponies.
But I can say for sure that on one of the routes, she will cheat on him with Axel.
Hmm, maybe you solved the problem as adults because both of you didn't cheat on anyone in a previous relationship? logics?
- Jun 22, 2019
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hmm, casual dating and exclusive relationships are two different things. All this needs to be learned during the dating.
All the people responding to what I said by summarizing it as "once a cheater always a cheater". Which I never said, in fact I was making the case that you can't know if they will or will not cheat again. Of course people can genuinely change, but it is not the responsibility of other people to make that assessment. If I see someone who has cheated on someone, I don't know whether they will do it again so why would I risk that. It's not like cheating is a vice anyone can just fall into. It require you to actively ignore the boundaries of the person you are supposed to be closest to you. With the exception of abuse cases, cheating is always a malicious act. Why would you want to date someone who has shown that kind of moral character and how could you ever truly know they wouldn't do it again?
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And where is your proof on that she will? Again, your making an assumption of a possible outcome and trying SO hard to make it out to be fact when it's not.
Good try, good effort. 3/10, would not tell this joke again.
Nice talk.
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Agree. Cindy hasn't cheated on Wade till NOW, when her life is unfullied and is wanting to experience joys and life and do things in her life. Granted, their relationship is already rocky, but either once they have patched things up or the both of them part ways mutually, or possibly with some encouragement on Ian if he is very interested in her, she won't feel the need to "always cheat" going forward.
And you think someone is going to just tell you they've cheated in their previous relationship(s) during casual dating? That's, frankly, rather naive. Or our ideas of casual dating differ quite a bit.
- Jun 22, 2019
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Right, and am saying that expecting to learn some of this knowledge at casual stage of relationship (if ever) is overly optimistic. Some of this stuff may take months if not years, so at the end of the day that's the amount of time you've spent on a relationship with a supposed "always cheater" not worthy of your attention, anyway.
Sorry I wrote that message while taking a dump, please excuse my minor spelling mistake.
About me being a saint or a sinner. I have definetly made mistakes and wronged people before. I don't think anything I have done rises to level of narcissism displayed by cheaters who willingly violated their partners boundaries, but even if I did my stance wouldn't change. I would take responsibility for the mistake I made and woulnd't expect someone to want to date me after I cheated on someone else.
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So basically, learn info by stalking everyone she knows?
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Idk, if I dated someone and this girl was asking all the intimate details about me from my relatives or friends without me being there or without asking me first, that would be a serious red flag for me. Trust goes both ways. If you're so paranoid about your partner being a cheater that you can't trust them to have boundaries (whether to talk or not to talk about one's ex is a personal choice that depends on willingness to open up) and need to constantly sniff around their secrets to calm down, I wouldn't trust that person because clearly there are some personal issues with self-esteem that I can't really help with, so better to spare everyone from disappointment and move separate ways.
The fact is, you can't control whether a person is a potential cheater or not (unless they have that reputation or something). No amount of controlling will help with that. The best tactics to avoid cheating is to be a good partner and show trust. If they have a good time with you, they won't want to risk it for some fresh excitement. And even if they do end up cheating, it's not like it's the end of the world. Not all relationships are meant to be.
So basically don't be like Wade or Axel, do the best thing to keep the initial spark that helped the relationship bloom in the first place, like Ian being supportive of Cindy's self-discovery, as well as not giving up on personal aspirations that Cindy is empowered by. Keep things fresh and exciting, and she won't want to leave or cheat with the first self-absorbed playboy. Sure, Axel may scratch her ego and uplift her modeling aspirations, but does he care about her emotions and well-being? Does he care about her as a person? Not really. And that's why Ian will be more valuable to her than any Axel, because he can read her like an open book and help her become the best version of herself with his careful and beautiful writing.
The fact is, you can't control whether a person is a potential cheater or not (unless they have that reputation or something). No amount of controlling will help with that. The best tactics to avoid cheating is to be a good partner and show trust. If they have a good time with you, they won't want to risk it for some fresh excitement. And even if they do end up cheating, it's not like it's the end of the world. Not all relationships are meant to be.
So basically don't be like Wade or Axel, do the best thing to keep the initial spark that helped the relationship bloom in the first place, like Ian being supportive of Cindy's self-discovery, as well as not giving up on personal aspirations that Cindy is empowered by. Keep things fresh and exciting, and she won't want to leave or cheat with the first self-absorbed playboy. Sure, Axel may scratch her ego and uplift her modeling aspirations, but does he care about her emotions and well-being? Does he care about her as a person? Not really. And that's why Ian will be more valuable to her than any Axel, because he can read her like an open book and help her become the best version of herself with his careful and beautiful writing.
We're now going to look really silly if mommysboiii is right and Cindy latches onto Axel's cock at first opportunity
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Nah... It will be either Lena's/Ivy's slit.We're now going to look really silly if mommysboiii is right and Cindy latches onto Axel's cock at first opportunity
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