VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[dontcarewhateverno]

Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much .
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" . I didnt know this was the reason

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more .

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" .

Unreliable narrator? As far as I was aware, it was Eva herself who was unsatisfied with Stan. No offense to Eva, but this may just be a hokey sales tactic. "You asked for it and we delivered!" Those [other than the corporate design team] who actually asked for it: *crickets*... + maybe one stray reply in a forum somewhere.

Nothing wrong with wanting satisfaction in your own output though.

 

[ffive]

Well i don't know who has asked for it, but if Stan's current popularity is an indication, that plan has clearly worked

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Well i don't know who has asked for it, but if Stan's current popularity is an indication, that plan has clearly worked

Well... as stated in a post a while back, Stan was nearly as popular before the rework as he is now, according old poll placement at least. The slight jump may be just as likely due to him having more sexual content with Lena now (a chance to "shoot his shot"... quite literally) even if it's mainly touch-free so far. And of having some semblance of a potential path with her now.

 

[Hoa90]

I just combined the rankings and here is the result guys

Jeremy - Cindy
Stan - Holly
Axel - Emma
Marcel - Alison
Seymour - Ivy
Perry - Minerva
Mike - Cherry
Wade - Gillian
Mark - Louise
Billy - Good Jess
Robert - Bad Jess

yoo i like character Stan <3

 

[Xupuzulla]

Unreliable narrator? As far as I was aware, it was Eva herself who was unsatisfied with Stan. No offense to Eva, but this may just be a hokey sales tactic. "You asked for it and we delivered!" Those [other than the corporate design team] who actually asked for it: *crickets*... + maybe one stray reply in a forum somewhere.

Nothing wrong with wanting satisfaction in your own output though.

Is obvious she doesnt like him,he barely has any content compared to most characters.
Funny how no one cried about Jeremy winning or Marcel doing well,i guess this game becoming a BLACKED VN is ok,but Stan is the big bad character who destroys Evakiss vision

 

[rj677]

this is absolutly not true and this is not what the votes show at all

macel,jeremy (bbc fetish), stan not really sure about this one because not really sure if they vote for stan for the creep or for the sweet love story so I let him out , axel absolute gugachad steal your girl kink, old rich grandpa absolute corruption/blackmail ......

and than you look at the female votes which are the coutner parts axel/cindy, macel/holly, alison/jeremy......... and than gillian with no content that high YES PEOPLE absolutly want corruption and kinky things and def not vanilla story this was never the thing people wanted at all with ors it was a corruption story from the beggining just a more realistic/ slow burn corruption story with more chapters and build up but DEFINITLY A CORRUPTION STORY

look at the data mate

Is obvious she doesnt like him,he barely has any content compared to most characters.
Funny how no one cried about Jeremy winning or Marcel doing well,i guess this game becoming a BLACKED VN is ok,but Stan is the big bad character who destroys Evakiss vision

Mommysboii over here managed to reply to a post without actually reading the post he was replying to ...

"This is not what the votes show" "look at the data mate": People really need to understand that in any of these AVNs theres always 2 types of "crowds": The Patreon/Discord crowd and The F95 crowd. Of course they have some overlap and of course the F95 crowd then just divides into different opinions, but this is the norm

Geralt From Rivia said (at least I think so) specifically that he meant the people of F95 and not the people who voted in those polls (people he called fetishists).

Does Jeremy and Marcel being on the top of the polls reflect a BBC fetish: Yes, but for me thats not the only reason they got votes...
- Jeremy for me is number 1 because of his role in the Ian path... How hes an amazing best friend for Ian and how he has his back in the Cindy situation or when he refuses Lena in Ivys house if Ian tells him hes in love.

-Marcel is essentially a blank canvas: he got votes because people want to see what Eva is capable of doing with him... When you look at Lenas "LI options", theres no surprise there . Stan is the "underdog", so thats why people vote for him to actually have a chance with the model (clearly only in fantasy land ).

Of course this game has corruption (and we want it to have it), but that doesnt mean it cant be a good story with well-written and balanced characters AND some vanilla in it.

I loved how you ranted about how Geralt generalized Stan fans has them being incels, but then proceeded to do the EXACT SAME THING with the votes: Votes of the patreon say X, so the opinion of EVERY FAN in the world is X . (I just gave you an opinion of the exact opposite and some reliable scenarios as to why some characters got those votes).

 

[MF_DOOM]

but this is an exceptional case when Eva can ask advice from @MF_DOOM on the development of Stan's storyline. He has a lot of ideas about this, I'm sure.

I am a simple man, IMO Eva should develop a cop character who shoots Stan in his fat disgusting head.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Stan is the big bad character who destroys Evakiss vision

He is definitely...big, as in whale big.

 

[JoJoPool]

dont talk about queen cindy like that

and the walking dildo has a AMAZING scene with alison/ian/walking dildo outperform our boiii you should try that exquisite scene 11/10 if you are a cuck gourmet like me EXQUISITE bravo eva!!! bravoo!!!!

Please never change, your posts always make my day

 

[Triepslay]

I've played this game ever since the release but I never really posted anything and I wanna share my thoughts on the characters even tho I know some opinions will make people mad haha

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Idk if I forgot anyone but I feel like I flamed fan favorites LMAO, overall I noticed how nearly all the guys in this game are so boring hence why I didn't try their routes with Lena while nearly all the women have smth going for them that makes you wanna approach them or do smth with them when you're Ian or Lena. I like the dynamic of Lena and Ian so much and I really love their scenes together, they genuinely feel the realest among all the other scenes, it feels like there's genuine feelings and love involved no matter how kinky or vanilla the sex is and that's exactly why I just can't see Lena cucking Ian (will never play that route) or any of them cheat on the other cuz obv I won't allow it lol. Overall Ian and Lena ship>>>>.

 

[Dom Toretto]

Anyone know when this update is going to happen

 

[chiperman]

I thought it's going to be "creep" by Radiohead.

Creep, but by Lonely Island

 

[Xupuzulla]

Mommysboii over here managed to reply to a post without actually reading the post he was replying to ...

"This is not what the votes show" "look at the data mate": People really need to understand that in any of these AVNs theres always 2 types of "crowds": The Patreon/Discord crowd and The F95 crowd. Of course they have some overlap and of course the F95 crowd then just divides into different opinions, but this is the norm

Geralt From Rivia said (at least I think so) specifically that he meant the people of F95 and not the people who voted in those polls (people he called fetishists).

Does Jeremy and Marcel being on the top of the polls reflect a BBC fetish: Yes, but for me thats not the only reason they got votes...
- Jeremy for me is number 1 because of his role in the Ian path... How hes an amazing best friend for Ian and how he has his back in the Cindy situation or when he refuses Lena in Ivys house if Ian tells him hes in love.

-Marcel is essentially a blank canvas: he got votes because people want to see what Eva is capable of doing with him... When you look at Lenas "LI options", theres no surprise there . Stan is the "underdog", so thats why people vote for him to actually have a chance with the model (clearly only in fantasy land ).

Of course this game has corruption (and we want it to have it), but that doesnt mean it cant be a good story with well-written and balanced characters AND some vanilla in it.

I loved how you ranted about how Geralt generalized Stan fans has them being incels, but then proceeded to do the EXACT SAME THING with the votes: Votes of the patreon say X, so the opinion of EVERY FAN in the world is X . (I just gave you an opinion of the exact opposite and some reliable scenarios as to why some characters got those votes).

Well at least you kinda admit those two characters are liked because of their BBCs
I never used the world incel im sure,my complaint is people having a meltdown about Stan coming second while Jeremy won easily and no one says nothing.
How come Jeremy being popular doesnt destroy Evakiss vision but Stan does?
How come a minor character like Marcel getting fourth,beating even Mike and Seymour doenst destroy Evakiss vision?
Even Evakiss herself implies in the post shes sad about Seymour losing popularity.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Is obvious she doesnt like him,he barely has any content compared to most characters.
Funny how no one cried about Jeremy winning or Marcel doing well,i guess this game becoming a BLACKED VN is ok,but Stan is the big bad character who destroys Evakiss vision

Well... the BLACKED element was there from the start and was actually watered down quite a bit in a variety of places in the Chapters 1-9 revamp, so "becoming" might not be the most accurate word there. This is the dev that gave us GGGB after all, which could just as easily stand for Good Girl Gone Blacked in a variety of paths.

 

[Reaurt]

Skimmed through the Patreon comments on the NPC poll, along with Eva's responses to them, to get a better sense of what's motivating some of the voting and what she thinks about it.

Looks like 2 interesting themes as it comes to Marcel, one being more character driven: Curiosity since he physically comes across as imposing, but his personality differs from expectations (e.g., a good dude), and people would like more friendly male characters. This also appears to drive some of Jeremy's popularity among Patreons (he's not antagonistic to interact with, usually a friendly bro). The other theme for Marcel is kink related, about his body size, and how that might work with the ladies, especially smaller ones like Holly.

Another note is that Eva mentioned that she understands why Louise is not popular, as Louise has only either been a foil for Stan or a pet for Lena. Eva mentioned "content creep" a few times, in that she has ideas about Louise related scenes to flesh out and humanize her character, but she hasn't yet had the time to implement those ideas as she's balancing so many storylines.

P.S. Marcel will show up in the Chapter 11 Epilogue, according to Eva

 

[zoomzoomzoom]

Give Marcel a perfectly average penis to fight the stereotype.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Mommysboii over here managed to reply to a post without actually reading the post he was replying to ...

"This is not what the votes show" "look at the data mate": People really need to understand that in any of these AVNs theres always 2 types of "crowds": The Patreon/Discord crowd and The F95 crowd. Of course they have some overlap and of course the F95 crowd then just divides into different opinions, but this is the norm

Geralt From Rivia said (at least I think so) specifically that he meant the people of F95 and not the people who voted in those polls (people he called fetishists).

Does Jeremy and Marcel being on the top of the polls reflect a BBC fetish: Yes, but for me thats not the only reason they got votes...
- Jeremy for me is number 1 because of his role in the Ian path... How hes an amazing best friend for Ian and how he has his back in the Cindy situation or when he refuses Lena in Ivys house if Ian tells him hes in love.

-Marcel is essentially a blank canvas: he got votes because people want to see what Eva is capable of doing with him... When you look at Lenas "LI options", theres no surprise there . Stan is the "underdog", so thats why people vote for him to actually have a chance with the model (clearly only in fantasy land ).

Of course this game has corruption (and we want it to have it), but that doesnt mean it cant be a good story with well-written and balanced characters AND some vanilla in it.

I loved how you ranted about how Geralt generalized Stan fans has them being incels, but then proceeded to do the EXACT SAME THING with the votes: Votes of the patreon say X, so the opinion of EVERY FAN in the world is X . (I just gave you an opinion of the exact opposite and some reliable scenarios as to why some characters got those votes).

I would like to add that I personally don't consider various fetishes as something terrible and I don't judge these people, it's just that many of us expect much more from ORS than just a fetish of a porn game. For example, I recently ran through several AVNs - in terms of plot and level of character development, these games and ORS are like different dimensions. ORS is a popular game with almost 2,000 pages of discussions and 2,500 Patreon subscriptions, and I like others expect the same from ORS.
I don’t know about others, but it’s very difficult to understand what mommysboy means, it’s some kind of special English without spelling, plus obviously off topic what I said.

Jeremy is a rather controversial dude. On the manwhore Ian route, he really seems like a good friend and you act like two chads fucking the same girls without obligation. But if Ian is not Chad, then he competes with you for girls, and hits on Alison even if you ask not to do this (according to those who ran Alison's route) At the same time, he refuses Lena's blowjob if Ian-Lena love=true. Cheats on his girlfriend, but condemns Ian when he steals Wade's girlfriend. Of course, slightly different circumstances in the two situations, but cheating is cheating, right? In general, Jeremy lacks character development.

I am a simple man, IMO Eva should develop a cop character who shoots Stan in his fat disgusting head.

Too trite. The accidental falling into an enclosure full of alligators would be more interesting.

I thought it's going to be "creep" by Radiohead.

It's too good song and has been associated with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 lately for me, so Stanny doesn't deserve it.

I've played this game ever since the release but I never really posted anything and I wanna share my thoughts on the characters even tho I know some opinions will make people mad haha

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Idk if I forgot anyone but I feel like I flamed fan favorites LMAO, overall I noticed how nearly all the guys in this game are so boring hence why I didn't try their routes with Lena while nearly all the women have smth going for them that makes you wanna approach them or do smth with them when you're Ian or Lena. I like the dynamic of Lena and Ian so much and I really love their scenes together, they genuinely feel the realest among all the other scenes, it feels like there's genuine feelings and love involved no matter how kinky or vanilla the sex is and that's exactly why I just can't see Lena cucking Ian (will never play that route) or any of them cheat on the other cuz obv I won't allow it lol. Overall Ian and Lena ship>>>>.

Pretty based review. Our anti-Stan party is growing up! At this rate, we will soon be able to run for the Senate.
However, after the last update, I put Perry a little higher and still sympathize with Wade more. Emma is 10/10 and deserves more content, while Mike can be found on the "bad Lena" path. Of all the potential options for Lena other than Ian, he is the most normal. Even though he's a cheater.

 

[Gato21]

Another note is that Eva mentioned that she understands why Louise is not popular, as Louise has only either been a foil for Stan or a pet for Lena. Eva mentioned "content creep" a few times, in that she has ideas about Louise related scenes to flesh out and humanize her character, but she hasn't have the time to implement those ideas as she's balancing so many storylines.

Have I been relegated to the same level as an Ed fan? She considers making Louise not a one dimensional annoyance of a character, "content creep?" Oh God, it hurts! Why we put on this Earth to suffer?

 

[| Vee |]

Creep, but by Lonely Island

Damn I heard and instantly imagined Stanny in it!



Triepslay Welcome to the club!
Blue ones are my opinions on some of your reviews!

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No one likes him!

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Welcome to Stan Busters!

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For this you deserve this!

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I'm interested on your opinion of Jeremy Regarding not telling Ian about Gillian(Chameleon) arrival.

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After completing Cindy route I would love to hear your opinion of Wade and Cindy!

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Agreed! He is X factor and can change whole course of game on it's own.

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Agreed!

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Agreed!

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[Gicoo]

The hardcore Jeremy BBC fans are just a minority as the hater. Overall, Jeremy is average and compared to pretty much every other shitty male character, decently utilized. He is needed to have pairs and sex scenes involving a guy, else its close to an Ian harem or lesbian fest. You can cockblock him of Alison, Louise, Lena and Ivy so that he won't get laid after breaking up with Louise, or you can let him fuck all of them.

On Ians path, he is either his best friend or semi-rival, dealing with women/lust or the gym/atletics. He is also the horniest and outspoken of the guys when they hang out. Sure, he can steal Alison, but if Ian priotizes her, he is no danger. He also has no qualms to share her. Very likely a foursome candidate if he and Ian continue to share Alison and Emma.
Who else is supposed to fill that role? Lol Perry? Most guys are outright rivals, the closest candidate for a devils threesome could be Mike, but once the Gillian drama would be revealed, that has issues as well.

While the BBC is still a thing with Lena, its not everything: Lena can manipulate his relationship with Louise and either let them break up to potentially get her herself or seduce him for a potential threesome, stealing him from Louise etc. Ian, Lena, Jeremy and Louise could also be one of the first foursomes. Its no wonder why he was the one involved in both first threesomes.

Ians two perspectives on him when Ivy questions him sum it up pretty well. He is a manchild and dumb, but also energetic bringing all his friends together by pushing for dates and meetings and pushing them to do something, even if they found it to overbearing.