MaliPizdek

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If Ian is on her path she will most likely have him as a plus one or something, otherwise how will we even see the content if none of the MCs are present.
plus one? you think she will bring Ian with her on a yacht? hm... idk about that...
idk if she even told Ian that she is going to a club with Axel and some other people to meet
 

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After this update, I understand that pure Ian/Lena is the most adequate and safe route. Because everything starts to burn for everyone else.
Especially if you:
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I have said countless times how Lenas part of the updates for me dont "click", and that just gets put front and centre on the smoking scene with Ivy and on the Mike scene afterwards when he "visits Lena" at the bar... Now I know why that is exactly :(:(

Lena is written as a hypocrite... The fact that what I loved the most in this update was Lena getting "put in her place" by Ivy and Mike about what it means to be "exclusive" or not is really telling... It felt so good because I was literally screaming and hoping for someone to say that to her. :FacePalm:

- Lena does X? Definitely appropriate and right in every way :rolleyes:
- Ian/Ivy/Mike/Everyone in the world does X? Disgusting despicable move... How can you do this to me (me being Lena) or to your best friends (yeah right, Jeremy is staring right at you :cautious:) :FacePalm:.
I dont mind drama and I think some of it is needed in any story, but stuff like this happening just for the sake of "drama" just doesnt make sense to me :confused::unsure:

Well... Probably that wasnt what I loved most about this update. Since we did get content for my girl Emma :love::love: (Not with Ian, but its still something I guess *shrugging emoji*)
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- It's a shame, but yeah it has really gone fullfetish. And is not only that it has gone fullfetish, with this last update it has completely lost the semi-realistic angle that Eva claimed the game would go for. The definitive proof for that path are the dick on the face selfies and Lena wanting to blow the bouncer in the middle of the street just because he tells her he has a BBC :ROFLMAO:. Can't get more ridiculous than that. Jeremy's scene also qualifies as fullfetish since it's also in the street. Previously with Jeremy shit was built up, she had seen him please Louise and some other events.
- Someone can correct me if I am wrong but it seems Cindy goes clubbing with Axel despite being in a relationship with Ian? Could be that because I played from an older-version save it didnt pick shit right. Cindy cheating on Wade with either Ian or Axel was understandable (not justifying cheating, just saying it made sense). But with both? Of course there are girls like that irl(girls that have many guys). But they dont go from a 1 guy girl to being with a bunch of guys. Not straightaway.
- Then there is the return of Jack and even some other dude that Lena can give her name. Is Eva trying to make Lena into Ashley 2.0. Is Arthur next?

All that out of the way, I still don't blame the patrons. Remember that GGGB came before and already had all this shit and more. Eva is just giving this VN the same treatment.
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Hungover00

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That was already hinted at in the initial chapter 11 release and this thread was pretty hyped for it. That aside it does seem like the throuple train is almost at its station.
I'll need to go back and see if you can set up the throuple but have Holly avoid Mark(?, I feel like there are a lot of M names in this game); add in as many FFM/FFFM group sessions and that's my ideal canon run. Emma/Ivy>Louise(as pet)>Alison, don't see a way Cindy or Cherry would join, but friendly strangers would be options.
 

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- It's a shame, but yeah it has really gone fullfetish. And is not only that it has gone fullfetish, with this last update it has completely lost the semi-realistic angle that Eva claimed the game would go for. The definitive proof for that path are the dick on the face selfies and Lena wanting to blow the bouncer in the middle of the street just because he tells her he has a BBC :ROFLMAO:. Can't get more ridiculous than that. Jeremy's scene also qualifies as fullfetish since it's also in the street. Previously with Jeremy shit was built up, she had seen him please Louise and some other events.
- Someone can correct me if I am wrong but it seems Cindy goes clubbing with Axel despite being in a relationship with Ian? Could be that because I played from an older-version save it didnt pick shit right. Cindy cheating on Wade with either Ian or Axel was understandable (not justifying cheating, just saying it made sense). But with both? Of course there are girls like that irl(girls that have many guys). But they dont go from a 1 guy girl to being with a bunch of guys. Not straightaway.
- Then there is the return of Jack and even some other dude that Lena can give her name. Is Eva trying to make Lena into Ashley 2.0. Is Arthur next?

All that out of the way, I still don't blame the patrons. Remember that GGGB came before and already had all this shit and more. Eva is just giving this VN the same treatment.
Some (not all) of this may change with the beta and final release. I had quite a few interactions that made no sense with the current path I loaded from, so some portions/scenes are clearly place-holder shown on all paths, which will be fixed through the next few builds. Other things you noticed... I'm sure are here to stay. The Marcel section was definitely a bit rushed and will likely remain so for those on that path where an alleyway situation might occur. Though tbf, Lena also has to have 8+ lust for it, so Eva may assume the player's played Eva like a big slut until that point. I had to edit the script just to get the scene since my sluttiest Lena is only at 7.
 

SerHawkes

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Man do I love being right. Specially when I called it 'Our Fetish Strings'. EK really should change the name at this point.

Who woulda thunk it? And guess what? We're gonna get more of this crap in the remaining chapters, while naturally screwing over characters and pairings that some have hoped for but will never see the light of fucking day, in favor of fetish content.

And I was right from the beginning. I happily accept apology blowjobs...
 

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Some (not all) of this may change with the beta and final release. I had quite a few interactions that made no sense with the current path I loaded from, so some portions/scenes are clearly place-holder shown on all paths, which will be fixed through the next few builds. Other things you noticed... I'm sure are here to stay. The Marcel section was definitely a bit rushed and will likely remain so for those on that path where an alleyway situation might occur. Though tbf, Lena also has to have 8+ lust for it, so Eva may assume the player's played Eva like a big slut until that point. I had to edit the script just to get the scene since my sluttiest Lena is only at 7.
don't you get 8 Lust if Lena is using Drugs? I think it was possible iirc. (I lost my save of Druggie Lena:confused:)
 

dontcarewhateverno

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She is cameo, But I am in doubt too:unsure: if she will get future appearances or will have something with Lena/IanxLena as a fling cause she was coming in strong than others:whistle:(might be me). Truly hope she becomes a character instead of just cameo but chances are slim.:(
The fact that they get each other's contact info and that Lena mentions it all to Ian in one of the endings means we'll likely see something between Lena and her. I know, Ian got Nat's before, which may not turn into anything now. But there were a lot more steps and scenes with this new character. So leaving it all hanging would feel a lot more strange.
 

Hungover00

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Man do I love being right. Specially when I called it 'Our Fetish Strings'. EK really should change the name at this point.

Who woulda thunk it? And guess what? We're gonna get more of this crap in the remaining chapters, while naturally screwing over characters and pairings that some have hoped for but will never see the light of fucking day, in favor of fetish content.

And I was right from the beginning. I happily accept apology blowjobs...
Which fetishes, and right about what?
 

dontcarewhateverno

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don't you get 8 Lust if Lena is using Drugs? I think it was possible iirc. (I lost my save of Druggie Lena:confused:)
Didn't realize drugs were an option. But I thought Ivy mentioned drugs after the Marcell scene. Will have to replay and pay more attention. I just remember refusing a smoke. If drugs were, in fact, an option on any routes before the Marcell scene (or Jeremy scene which I haven't seen yet), then blowing cock in the alleyway might seem a bit more realistic.
 

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my previous download of this game was Ch.11 FINAL now we get Ch.11 Epilogue Alpha?? WTF??
 

SerHawkes

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The fact that they get each other's contact info and that Lena mentions it all to Ian in one of the endings means we'll likely see something between Lena and her. I know, Ian got Nat's before, which may not turn into anything now. But there were a lot more steps and scenes with this new character. So leaving it all hanging would feel a lot more strange.
Lets guess: Which cameo is gonna get a scene before Ian-Ivy? I mean seriously? We get her contact info, along with Nat, and yet we won't actually get a scene with her or Nat unless it's forced in just to appease to so call masses.
 
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Hungover00

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Didn't realize drugs were an option. But I thought Ivy mentioned drugs after the Marcell scene. Will have to replay and pay more attention. I just remember refusing a smoke. If drugs were, in fact, an option on any routes before the Marcell scene (or Jeremy scene which I haven't seen yet), then blowing cock in the alleyway might seem a bit more realistic.
I can't recall ever running into a Marcell, unless it's the bouncer? What path does he show up on?
 

Hungover00

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We're gonna get more BBC and Cuck content shoved down and appeased to while entirely entirely shafting the story. All for that lovely paycheck from her patrons demanding all the possible kinks in the world while 'claiming' to make it all 'semi realisitic'.
Ah, okay, I haven't followed the development side closely, so didn't realise how the Patreon side of things would affect the content.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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:oops:WHICH ENDING? *OPENING GAME:BootyTime:*
Dom Lena ending. I'm hoping that one isn't forced and is just showing up due to being an Alpha build. I loaded from a switch save (loving mutual-respect sort of couple where she teases him occassionally as a kink for both of them, but he can be dominant too) but Lena was playing as the more extreme "Dommy Mommy" manipulator bitch which I've avoided in all of my playthroughs and saves till now. The only selectable choices were that or "go to bed" which just ends the update. Will be disappointed if it all just railroads to that, but I'm not going to sweat it too much at this point. The next two years are going to be a home-stretch sprint and I can understand EvaKiss' need for that. It's a lot of years on development. The game already had too many choices to be manageable for reasonable completion time. Though TBH, the Ch 1-9 revamp was probably the last nail in the coffin of putting her in the position she is in now, rushing to complete.
 
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bauman

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my previous download of this game was Ch.11 FINAL now we get Ch.11 Epilogue Alpha?? WTF??
These days, it goes as follows:

Chapter X Prologue Alpha
Chapter X Prologue Beta
Chapter X Prologue Final

Chapter X Alpha
Chapter X Beta
Chapter X Final

Chapter X Epilogue Alpha
Chapter X Epilogue Beta
Chapter X Epilogue Final

:HideThePain:
 

aykarin

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I strongly disagree with people complaining about the epilogue. When Chapter 11 dropped, I liked it in general but criticized the lack of progression on important plot points, such as the complete lack of Cindy's reaction to becoming a model for Wildcats or more comment about that from Ivy.
In the epilogue we got both these things in abundance. The things I liked the most about this update were the backalley gossip talk with Ivy and Lena's conversation with Cindy. Both were important for story progression. Also I really liked the drama about Mike. I don't agree with people who say Lena's character was changed. While it's true that she shouldn't expect any loyalty from a guy who fucks her despite having a girlfriend, this drama was not about that. It was about Lena's sense of superiority based on the (false) conviction that she has power as a woman and can make a guy betray his girlfriend for her. The revelation that Mike sleeps around not only with her was a serious blow to her self esteem. And while it's true that calling out Mike on this was very silly (and hypocritical) in her situation, it was a natural reaction. People don't always act rationally, especially when swayed by emotions.

Cindy also behaved accordingly to her established character. People who complain that she was reduced to a dumb blond should read the whole VN once again. From the very beginning Cindy was extremely petty, selfish and greedy for glamour of being a model. She clearly disliked Lena and showed it every time. Lena too never liked Cindy and even if she got some points with her, she was always on guard around her. So the conversation between them and Cindy's stupid antics are VERY MUCH in line with her character.

So, overall, while in terms of sex scenes the update caters mostly to corruption enthusiasts (as is often the case with Lena's part of the story) it's by no means a 'story reduced to fetishism' or anything like that. In fact, this epilogue gave us lots of plot progression and generally good storytelling.
 
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