Mesmerizet

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What I like about the Cindy path are the differences of opinions people might have when it comes to whose at fault for the Cindy x Wade relationship not working

Thats why nothing you said is essentially wrong and I can see your train of thought. Cindy is spoiled, selfish, does what she wants and has to have everything done in her own way. But saying that Wade is "fully committed to her" when this man cant even go to a club ONCE to please her without being a bitch about it wasnt what I had in mind when I said "fully committed".:unsure:

Knowing Eva and the recent choices of writting being made lately, it wouldnt surprise me one bit if Cindy cheated on EVERY Ian with Axel for the reasons you said. Its the "perfect" drama choice and hes the perfect man for her (because of all the reasons you said)... However, that would make going for her path utterly USELESS (which is way on my prediction I had to at least one path where she wouldnt fuck Axel).

I would be disappointed if theres NO path where Cindy and Ian would work out (even though I can somewhat agree that it would be kind of unrealistic depending how you would look at it) even though I wouldnt be surprised. In that scenario, every Cindy stereotype and every person saying Ian is "average" (so not able to compete in ANY WAY with someone like Axel) would win I guess :rolleyes:
I think there's good enough build-up and chemistry for a Cindy-Ian path. This would probably be the path where Ian tells Cindy to "break up with Wade" and that he loves her. In this path, granted that Ian is loyal I suppose there will be no interference from Axel either.

However, if you are running playboy/alpha Ian, cuck/beta Ian or rejected Ian routes, then there's a high probability that Cindy will cheat on Wade with Axel.

I think it is a given that Cindy will cheat - your choices will determine if it's with Ian or Axel.

He likely stays there until the end of the game when he finds his own place and moves in with his potential girlfriend.
He likely only gets kicked out if he fucks Cindy, but then he could just move into her place (there is room after Wade moves out durhur)


No. There is some mild speculation but I wouldn't bet on it. May also have to do with the developer wanting to release it on Steam, so the game is relatively tame.
I think if Ian keeps on fucking Cindy, then yeah most likely he can get kicked out of Perry's apartment.
He can also get kicked if he keeps on fucking Emma too.

Unless there's an option to shun Wade out of the circle but I don't think that's possible since Wade and Perry are like beer bros.

just Ivy build up and go no way , with the both MC ( can i am just male only as MC) . feel weird play both MC

A van down by the river
Probably options would be to get your own place, move in with Cindy Allison, even Minerva depending upon the route.
I don't think he can move in with Lena considering Lena's place is small asf.

Similarly I think somewhere between CH11 and CH16 we may see an option for Lena to move out as well. This would unlock quite a lot of paths, I'm thinking this is how Lena x Seymour scenes would go, if they were to happen. He'd get a pied-à-terre where Lena has an option to live full-time if needed.

Similarly to GGGB, Lena can probably get an apartment and maybe accept sponsors from Stalkfap (i.e. people who want to fuck for $$$) making her a proper online prostitute. Just my speculation.

Hmmm...I was thinking about the MMA tournament and remembered that Dave from gggb used to train jiu jitsu
Maybe we will see him there or Vs ian in the final match
What I want to see in the MMA tournament is Ian banging Cindy in the locker room while Wade is in the stands wondering where they went.

initially i had Ian take Cindy from Wade, but when i saw how she was with Axel, i figured she would end up with him, so i let her go and deleted her from my saves. i see her leaving Wade for Axel and we will see if that will make Axel let go of his interest in Lena. since Lena belong to Ian, Axel need to fuck off. would also love to see Ian eventually kick Axel's ass. just because he is a big guy, doesn't mean he can't be knocked out by a skilled fighter like Ian is becoming. Axel thinks he's invincible and it's time to put him in his place.
if i were writing the story, i would have Axel beat Cindy in a jealous rage over Cindy always flirting with other guys. then have her go to Ian for help and have Ian go kick his ass.
As I said. As far as I know if Ian is dating Lena, then there is no way the confrontation with Axel is avoided unfortunately. Even if Lena cheats on Ian with anyone in the club, it's Ian being confronted outside the club if he's seeing/dating Lena at that point.

The only other options would be Mark (who literally gets bounced like a ball by Axel) or Mike. Not sure if there's a Ian x Jeremy confrontation possibility.

Man this is why I'd like the gallery to be more conditional and cover the after-sex scenes too. I'd like to see all variations of said confrontation without having to spend 2hrs making different save routes

Axel would burn down all of Baluart if it meant getting Lena back. He's never moving on from Lena, and it's embarassingly pathetic.
Yeah but what if Ian pulled his MMA moves that he learnt from Yuri and Wen on him? Lmfao.


Smfh Ivy is such a fucking tease. No scene yet.
 
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Badboll

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Is there a fix for the game just ending after the Jeremy Lousie Lena Threesome?
If I load a save before that game ends there. IF I load a save that's past that point it's fine.
seems like someone left in a trigger that shouldn't be there.
This wasn't an issue in Chapter 11 release nor the previous epilogue release.
IT seems all my saves made before chapter 10 are all broken. Great.
 

SerHawkes

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Interesting. Looks like a few incels came out of the woodwork with this latest version and left some bad reviews. I always wonder if those are coordinated by people hoping to tank a game.
Gee... I wonder why... What could possibly be the reason why some would give a bad review for a game that has abandoned it's self proclaimed story long ago in favor of fetish content and pandering... Hmmm, I truly wonder. A mystery for the ages I'm sure...
 

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Gee... I wonder why... What could possibly be the reason why some would give a bad review for a game that has abandoned it's self proclaimed story long ago in favor of fetish content and pandering... Hmmm, I truly wonder. A mystery for the ages I'm sure...
Please check out these reviews before you try to rope them into your agenda. "I've played this game for 2 minutes and can already tell the author is a bitter feminist" or "reviews looks sus, way too high" have really nothing to do with whether EK is "selling out" or not. Neither of these dudes probably know anything about the author in the first place, and care even less.
 

SerHawkes

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Please check out these reviews before you try to rope them into your agenda. "I've played this game for 2 minutes and can already tell the author is a bitter feminist" or "reviews looks sus, way too high" have really nothing to do with whether EK is "selling out" or not. Neither of these dudes probably know anything about the author in the first place, and care even less.
Ya never know. Anyone can make a review, make the use of words to say anything. They may actually know about the author to some degree. In any event though, do reviews really matter that much? Specially here?
 
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Birdnman993

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I didn't look at the reviews because I obviously already like the game and don't need to read them, so I was surprised to read three negative one-star reviews with complaints that were pretty silly to say the least, especially the last one suggesting that EK uses bots or spam to give themselves good scores and that there is a bad ending if you choose to keep everyone...:confused::confused::confused:

It's okay to like or not like some things and signs, but always with respect, so someone who says "bitter feminist" is a person who has no value to take into account.
 

vgbestly

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I'm stuck at this part, when I press"Buy outfits" I already own them all, so naturally I leave the store but get brought right back to this screen to buy outfits, I can't advance the story because of this so I'm hoping for a fix next update.
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This. Also, I can't remember the exact steps but during this mall shopping event with Emma, when I do leave, it some how goes to a previous mall event. I remember going to the sex shop where you're suppose to have a convo with Emma but you could just buy the two new toys and story goes back to a previous chapter's mall event and the game continues as if it was a previous chapter. Don't know the exact chapter, needs more testing. BRB
 

vgbestly

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This. Also, I can't remember the exact steps but during this mall shopping event with Emma, when I do leave, it some how goes to a previous mall event. I remember going to the sex shop where you're suppose to have a convo with Emma but you could just buy the two new toys and story goes back to a previous chapter's mall event and the game continues as if it was a previous chapter. Don't know the exact chapter, needs more testing. BRB
ok after some testing, here's the bug...

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Esti

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MCs can have a good ending, relatively, with anyone if they are committed to their path.
By the power of being MC in a porn game you mean? Yeah, that's a possibility. But...
1) GGGB wasn't meant to be realistic. ORS is.
2) There is a chasm between Dave and Cindy. Dave was romantic and sensitive guy, who could cheat only when he was falling deeply in love with someone and, probably, only with Ashley. It was "be the love of my life or GTFO" situation. Cindy is materealistic, manipulative, needy and bitchy girl who can cheat with a photographer because he is "oh so sexy". For me to buy loyal Cindy path she needs to change her whole personality.
 

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Ya never know. Anyone can make a review, make the use of words to say anything. They may actually know about the author to some degree. In any event though, do reviews really matter that much? Specially here?
it does for me. I don't play games with shit reviews.
And if i never play those games, the devs wouldn't get patreon $ from me either.
Those reviews directly helped some devs getting $ from me, however little
 

Esti

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I would be disappointed if theres NO path where Cindy and Ian would work out (even though I can somewhat agree that it would be kind of unrealistic depending how you would look at it) even though I wouldnt be surprised. In that scenario, every Cindy stereotype and every person saying Ian is "average" (so not able to compete in ANY WAY with someone like Axel) would win I guess :rolleyes:
1) Oh, I think that EK can make loyal Cindy path and it's not very difficult per se, but Cindy needs to change her whole outlook on life for this to happen. Problem is, usually that kind of thing happen because of some trauma and understanding that you just can't continue to follow the same path you did. And, well, Cindy is not very open to the idea that she can be in the wrong. One of the only things strong enough for Cindy to get the message is understanding that she is just a toy for Axel and she can lose all those perspectives in one go. Ask yourself, how, realistically, she can see and accept that before he would score with her?
2) It's not that Ian is average, it's that he creates that impression. His main value lies in the heart: he can be loyal, loving, honest, smart and so on. All things that Axel isn't. But on the face value Axel is stronger, sexier, more confident, has a better job and more money. And Cindy is just not the best girl to see past that facade yet.
 

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2) It's not that Ian is average, it's that he creates that impression. His main value lies in the heart: he can be loyal, loving, honest, smart and so on. All things that Axel isn't. But on the face value Axel is stronger, sexier, more confident, has a better job and more money. And Cindy is just not the best girl to see past that facade yet.
True but that's the thing, nobody seems to care about Ian's value in the heart. Axel is everything good on the outside but rotten to the core. As a matter of fact Ian appears to be the "most decent" guy compared to every other male chars in game.
 
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Cindy is materealistic, manipulative, needy and bitchy girl


I think you are just projecting over there. When she was out with Ian she was fun, sweet and nice. When they went to art exhibit she was genuinely interested in, attentive to Ian. Never shown what you said about her anymore than others.

By the power of being MC in a porn game you mean? Yeah, that's a possibility. But...
1) GGGB wasn't meant to be realistic. ORS is.
2) There is a chasm between Dave and Cindy. Dave was romantic and sensitive guy, who could cheat only when he was falling deeply in love with someone and, probably, only with Ashley. It was "be the love of my life or GTFO" situation. Cindy is materealistic, manipulative, needy and bitchy girl who can cheat with a photographer because he is "oh so sexy". For me to buy loyal Cindy path she needs to change her whole personality.
1) I am not sure this is whether or not dev's insight but it definitely is not the case. GGGB was not more unrealistic than ORS per se.
2) Although Dave and Cindy not being similar is true, I meant it was very unlikely to Dave end up with Ash but it made sense in the end when story came to that. I was saying for Ian and Cindy a loving loyal path could be possible down the road.
I don't think you are seeing it but Cindy is the only one who tries to revive their dead relationship with Wade. She does everything she can. Everyone including Ian says Wade changed too much, especially after he laid off. As far as we know he lives with unemployment benefits which is notoriously not good enough, that means their only source of income is Cindy. She take cares of him, pays for him, trying to push him forward etc. She is stingy I can agree with that but maybe because she is paying for 2? She acts annoying even bitchy towards Wade but can you really blame her for it? She did not sign up for that. When they started the relationship; Wade had a job, fitter, had hobbies, was going out etc. he does none of them anymore. Even after all of this, Cindy was trying to be supportive, trying to do things with him, trying to rekindle their relationship and each time Wade, usually through Perry, fucks it all up.
Now, cheating is wrong I agree with that. What they did was horrible in that way. I also agree, if it's lust path not the love one Cindy is gonna get railed by Axel and probably a few more. Though, in love path if Cindy stays as loyal as to Wade, then they will have happily ever after ending together. It is not out of her character, she does need to change anything in personality-wise.
3)We do not know she slept with Axel, only speculations but if you are gonna blame her through how he acts around Axel you need to blame every other girl in the game too, in addition Perry. Do you remember what Perry said about Axel first he saw him? Do you remember Emma in the same scene? Is that mean they will fuck Axel at the first possible occasion? Also Ian was the ultimate decision maker whether or not Cindy got naked in the photoshoot. She always waits Ian's approval and whenever he gave it, she became happier.

So all in all, Cindy is a deeper character than you think and she can be loyal, loving, supportive girlfriend too. If you are expecting unwavering, unconditional, unlimited loyalty and love without giving anything back, then you are delusional. She did what she could with Wade; if she can get the fun, respect and love from Ian she won't(well should not, if EK won't insist on cuckfest) cheat on Ian.
 
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