VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Sethmsf]

Actualy there is no Inbalance, Lena can easy get a lot more money, but it involves being the pet of a rich old fart, or have sex with Robert and invest in less artistic nudes on stalkfap. First time I played I played as Lena being a very decent girl that only likes artistic nudes and not selling her body, which led to her being insane poor on the brink of having nearly no money. But I noticed you can earn 10$ if become a pet of the rich old fart which is pretty nice money or sleep with Robert and keep your waitress job while on sidelines make money with porn nudes on stalkfap which also survivable, either way you are kinda forced to do something nasty if don't want Lena become poor, but same counts for Ian, he has also a short time he doesn't make enough money to survive and has to beg his dad for more, unless he whore himself out to his ugly tart boss and lick heels of others.

It all about choices and consequences, can be happy and in love but poor, or can be in a strained relation but with money and accept both sides do nasty things.

You can leave Minerva frustrated without sex and you get your job back anyway xD
Regarding Lena, the economic difference between making private content or only naughty public content is very small, the gap is between onlye tasteful nudes and the other two options (naughty content and/or private hot videos)
In fact, in my opinion you can maintain a healthy and happy relationship by going down that middle path; naughty content, Ian participating and without there being tension on both sides, you also leave the door open to perhaps go deeper into the pornographic spiral in the future or close without there being many problems with what Lena has exposed too much

 

[Firaxius]

You can leave Minerva frustrated without sex and you get your job back anyway xD
Regarding Lena, the economic difference between making private content or only naughty public content is very small, the gap is between onlye tasteful nudes and the other two options (naughty content and/or private hot videos)
In fact, in my opinion you can maintain a healthy and happy relationship by going down that middle path; naughty content, Ian participating and without there being tension on both sides, you also leave the door open to perhaps go deeper into the pornographic spiral in the future or close without there being many problems with what Lena has exposed too much

I know, like i said before it all depends on your choices how you want it to turn out, but for the want be rich path you have to do nasty stuff, for the faithfull/poor/surviving path you can neglect those nasty things and stay true to yourself. It all depends on what you want and how you want to live as Ian and Lena, not sure though how other relations work, I know Ian can get to be with Holly, Cindy and Allison, but from the three i personaly find Holly the best, but for Lena it more difficult, go back to her maniac ex Alex, a rich old dude with sick perversion, Horny Robert, sympatic Ian or just fuck around and don't date. Ofcourse Lena can also be with Holly, Louise or Ivy, but yet again Holly seems to be a better choice then, Louise is to much tsundere chaotic, Ivy well if you love a libertine sex bunny then ok, not really my taste though.

 

[ffive]

Honestly good question. I feel like Ian is always swimming in cash, because he has far less to spend money on.

Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.

For the record, Ian's options to spend money:

* paying for drinks during date with Cindy in Ch.3 ($1)
* bribing the bouncer in Ch.5 ($1)
* trip with Alison in Ch.9 ($2)
* footing the bill during date with Alison in Ch.9 ($1)
* clothes in Ch.9-10 ($1 per outfit, up to $4 total)
* access to Lena's Stalkfap Pro in Ch.10 ($1)
* good wine for Alison date in Ch.10 ($1)
* trying to pay for sex with bad Jess in Ch.10 ($1)
* tournament fee in Ch.11 ($1)

 

[Leongen43]

Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.

So if you had the option of him posing naked and Ian becoming a prostitute or having a contract similar to the one Lena has but with Agnes, would you accept so that Ian would have more money?

 

[ffive]

So if you had the option of him posing naked and Ian becoming a prostitute or having a contract similar to the one Lena has but with Agnes, would you accept so that Ian would have more money?

I doubt Ian's Stalkfap would receive much attention, but if he was pressed for money similar to Lena can be then sure, if there's no alternatives for him?

 

[Sethmsf]

Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.

For the record, Ian's options to spend money:

* paying for drinks during date with Cindy in Ch.3 ($1)
* bribing the bouncer in Ch.5 ($1)
* trip with Alison in Ch.9 ($2)
* footing the bill during date with Alison in Ch.9 ($1)
* clothes in Ch.9-10 ($1 per outfit, up to $4 total)
* access to Lena's Stalkfap Pro in Ch.10 ($1)
* good wine for Alison date in Ch.10 ($1)
* trying to pay for sex with bad Jess in Ch.10 ($1)
* tournament fee in Ch.11 ($1)

Buy a gift for your romantic interest Ch.12 ($1)
Buy fireworks Ch. 12 ($1)
Pay for food and drinks for the beach house Ch. 12 ($1)

And the opportunities to earn money beyond work, stipend and even two games of pool (you lose one of them if you go to the gym to train with Ivy) are zero.

 

[Leongen43]

I doubt Ian's Stalkfap would receive much attention, but if he was pressed for money similar to Lena can be then sure, if there's no alternatives for him?

There could be other options but it's a porn game like that because you would choose boring options when you can choose hot and fun options, I always thought that if Agnes did the same thing as Seymour with Lena it would be interesting to see, how much would Ian's personality and appearance change if that happened?

 

[Blurpee69]

Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.

For the record, Ian's options to spend money:

* paying for drinks during date with Cindy in Ch.3 ($1)
* bribing the bouncer in Ch.5 ($1)
* trip with Alison in Ch.9 ($2)
* footing the bill during date with Alison in Ch.9 ($1)
* clothes in Ch.9-10 ($1 per outfit, up to $4 total)
* access to Lena's Stalkfap Pro in Ch.10 ($1)
* good wine for Alison date in Ch.10 ($1)
* trying to pay for sex with bad Jess in Ch.10 ($1)
* tournament fee in Ch.11 ($1)

Perhaps swimming in cash is an overexageration on my part, but all of those spendatures you listed are recent developments. Again, 4 of them are exclusive to Allison content, and none of it is required unless you're specifically trying to romance her. I honestly forgot about bribing Marcel since I've never once had an issue with either his Charisma or Intellect being too low to resort to a bribe. Also the tournament fee will only lose Ian money if Ian isn't a good fighter, which I guess some players can stumble their way into thinking they're good enough to spend money, but haven't commited enough time to the training. He should be winning that money and more back.

Lena has a much higher earning potential, because she can get in with Seymour, but she has far more things to spend it on consistently than Ian does. It balances out to some extent, but I think Eva added a lot of Ian's spending recently because most Ian playthroughs had nothring for him to spend money on once you bought the outfits.

 

[L0b0ts]

Yes there is, but EvaKiss was not interested in doing it, that's why Lena has many more options than Ian in the story, that's why I always have the feeling that Lena is the protagonist and Ian is a sub-protagonist in the story, not even the tattoos, it would be seen male with a tattoo of two cherubs on his nipples?

It's good when Ian gets Lena jealous with Lena's ex-boyfriend girlfriend, and then Lena goes on vengeance streak.

 

[ffive]

Perhaps swimming in cash is an overexageration on my part, but all of those spendatures you listed are recent developments. Again, 4 of them are exclusive to Allison content, and none of it is required unless you're specifically trying to romance her.

Note, though, that my playthrough doesn't involve Alison romance and Ian is still near-broke (he didn't do any spending on the bouncer or bad Jess etc) It is basically very easy for Ian to be completely out of money with just generic approach, and on certain routes he won't even be able to afford some stuff.

He doesn't have that many spending opportunities, this is true, but he also doesn't have many earning opportunities. If EK only gives him ways to spend money he has no way to earn, then it'll go tits up for him pretty quick.

 

[Andrea9999]

I doubt Ian's Stalkfap would receive much attention, but if he was pressed for money similar to Lena can be then sure, if there's no alternatives for him?

He might get much attention. I have a feeling you are not "thinking outside the box" with regard to the potential clientele.

 

[Andrea9999]

There could be other options but it's a porn game like that because you would choose boring options when you can choose hot and fun options, I always thought that if Agnes did the same thing as Seymour with Lena it would be interesting to see, how much would Ian's personality and appearance change if that happened?

I believe it would be more erotic if Agnes joined with Seymour on controlling Lena and intensifying the experience.

 

[Andrea9999]

That is cruel no matter what culture, .....

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But would you not concede that you are perhaps being just a tad judgmental? Or perhaps you are making the unwarranted assumption that the situation is non-consensual.

 

[Blurpee69]

Note, though, that my playthrough doesn't involve Alison romance and Ian is still near-broke (he didn't do any spending on the bouncer or bad Jess etc) It is basically very easy for Ian to be completely out of money with just generic approach, and on certain routes he won't even be able to afford some stuff.

He doesn't have that many spending opportunities, this is true, but he also doesn't have many earning opportunities. If EK only gives him ways to spend money he has no way to earn, then it'll go tits up for him pretty quick.

Ian presumably has two big income spikes coming up shortly though, much like Lena did if she commits to Seymour's path. Winning the tournament, and his promotion at Heirophant. Unless I'm forgetting something, he only risks not getting the promotion at Heirophant if Lena initially accepts Seymour's proposal and then backs out or he picks the wrong books for publication. Although it might be a bit later, there is also presumably the sale of his novel.

 

[Leongen43]

I believe it would be more erotic if Agnes joined with Seymour on controlling Lena and intensifying the experience.

It would be more interesting if Ian participated in some way too, I never saw Seymour as exerting control over Lena but rather he is teaching her to free her mind through the pleasure and excitement that Seymour gives her using his techniques that he obtained with his experience accumulated during years

 

[Leongen43]

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But would you not concede that you are perhaps being just a tad judgmental? Or perhaps you are making the unwarranted assumption that the situation is non-consensual.

If the act were to save a life or improve it I would not see it as a cruel act but if it is for sexual satisfaction I do consider it cruel and unnecessary, but as you said it is my opinion or if it were Stan maybe

 

[Andrea9999]

It would be more interesting if Ian participated in some way too, I never saw Seymour as exerting control over Lena but rather he is teaching her to free her mind through the pleasure and excitement that Seymour gives her using his techniques that he obtained with his experience accumulated during years

In my view, the erotic nature is more from his exerting control as if she were a play doll. Lena's mind is already too free to start with for my tastes; I wish I could prevent her from using the anal plug in her masturbation scenes. But your view will probably gain more traction as the games intensify and add to the erotic nature that I find appealing.

 

[Andrea9999]

If the act were to save a life or improve it I would not see it as a cruel act but if it is for sexual satisfaction I do consider it cruel and unnecessary, but as you said it is my opinion or if it were Stan maybe

*sigh* what is with the anti-Stan attitude here? Actually, my first play had Lena having him do a photo shoot of her (after she caught him masturbating to previous pics he took of her) and then having him arouse himself and ejaculate over her during the second photo shoot. I thought it was a bit hot.

 

[Maviarab]

Omfg god man...multi-quote FTW!

 

[Leongen43]

In my view, the erotic nature is more from his exerting control as if she were a play doll. Lena's mind is already too free to start with for my tastes; I wish I could prevent her from using the anal plug in her masturbation scenes. But your view will probably gain more traction as the games intensify and add to the erotic nature that I find appealing.

I have nothing against Stan (if against Perry), I just have fun as if he were Lena's cuckold husband and I imagine scenarios where I have fun with him only, I only feel pity for him because he is surrounded by beautiful women who want nothing to do with him. him with the exception of Lena, like beta-cuck maybe?