VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[ffive]

That's what I thought initially. But if she's been going to Blazer, you would have thought she would be hanging out with Mike there. Which then begs the question, surely Jeremy would have seen them together, and he would have told Ian about it? He hasn't. So that doesn't make any sense, if she really is Mike's girlfriend.

Jeremy has been very cagey about telling Ian anything involving Gillian, because he knows how the breakup affected Ian and is afraid of a relapse.

By pure coincidence am sure, Jeremy is also very cagey about saying anything about Mike's girlfriend. Which, wouldn't you agree, makes very little sense if that girlfriend is someone random with no ties to the rest of the cast..?

 

[MF_DOOM]

Jeremy is also very cagey about saying anything about Mike's girlfriend.

Might be because he knows nothing about her or he doesn't care.

 

[ffive]

Might be because he knows nothing about her or he doesn't care.

Then you'd expect him to say as much, but he doesn't. Instead he's all "uhh.. err... maybe..?"

 

[aksogu]

Imagine, being Lena and settling for Robert.

Imagine being Lena and settling for *not Holly and Ivy*

And maybe Ian too if the dev lets us

 

[Zara Scarlet]

There is new reaction from Jeremy in final version of prologue when they are talking about that evan Mike fucked ivy ian asks Jeremy that didn't Mike had gf and Jeremy has worried face and says that maybe that they broke up I think that this confirms that Mike is gillian's bf and Jeremy knows that but as always he is being a shitty friend

Another interpretation of that scene, is that Gillian isn't Mike's girlfriend, and Jeremy genuinely has no idea whether he's still with his girlfriend. Mike and Jeremy aren't friends, they're just work colleagues, so there's no reason to assume that Jeremy knows much about Mike's personal life.

Isn't it also possible that Eva is laying a false trail, by making us think that Gillian could be Mike's girlfriend? This has been a fan theory for a while now, so maybe these 'clues' are actually red herrings?

 

[Xupuzulla]

Now that i think about it,Ivy fucking Mike makes the theory make even more sense.
Now Gillian is getting cucked even if Lena inst fucking Mike.

 

[Gicoo]

Mike being Gillians boyfriend at this stage is mandantory, everything else would suck from a writing standpoint.
Good writing can be predictable, if the characters previous actions and dialogues are consistent and lead up to it. The conclusion will feel natural and earned.

Keep in mind that many users here play the game multiple times. If you play it once, you may barely get the hints, but if Mike is revealed to be the boyfriend, this hints in your subconciousness come to rise and you feel satisfied because in hindsight, you knew it and the game told you so. It feels right and rewarding.


If Eva however made a false trail just to troll the veteran players by smugly reverting their expectations, its cheap and ignores proper writing at the expense for some easy troll points.

My biggest worries is that it will be Mark, going from the hints found in the code. Mark is such a nothing character and fine as a casual fuck and cameo, but he isn't build up to be anything at all.

 

[BlandChili]

"Mike's girlfriend" could also just remain a background prop, like "Minerva's husband."

 

[Xupuzulla]

"Mike's girlfriend" could also just remain a background prop, like "Minerva's husband."

Thats so boring through.
Mike+Gillian is the perfect drama for both Lena and Ian.

 

[BlandChili]

I guess. Since it's optional in the first place, the drama of the whole thing, makes me doubt it'll really make an actual impact.

Kinda like Seymour's big play towards Lena. It's optional for him to trap her and she still makes new money when she refuses, so the drama of it isn't really impactful even when you play to get it, because you have to deliberately make choices for it.

 

[ffive]

I guess. Since it's optional in the first place, the drama of the whole thing, makes me doubt it'll really make an actual impact.

Well, it's going to have impact for those who went for this option, i don't think there's anything wrong with it or that it makes it any lesser.

Just like Lena cheating on Ian only has impact for those who had Lena/Ian relationship and chose for Lena to cheat on Ian.

And Seymour drama imo isn't about money at all -- it's mainly another flavor of Lena being entangled with another man while in relationship. The main worry Lena displays while she's under the contract is how Ian would never accept it if he's found out. Which again, will only apply to these who have Lena/Ian relationship ongoing. Although, there's also of course the "universal" flavor of it, in Lena either willingly or not losing her freedom to make her own choices.

 

[| Vee |]

That's... not entirely accurate. I mean, it is, but there's more to it -- Alison's transition to blonde/bimbo is based on some conditions, and all of those conditions are about Ian:

default alison_blonde = 0                 # Alison goes for a change of style (if alison_jeremy_3some == 2 or ian_alison_dom or ian_alison_dating == False) ---> 3- ian compliments / 2- ian likes it / 1- ian doesn't like it

...

What I meant was that whether Ian is involved or not, bcz of Jeremy she is going down that route. Or I'm mixing up her conditions as I'm not playing her route anymore, instead jumped on Emma's route in club.

If before club scene Ian can dominate Alison than yes! you are right! Also alison_jeremy_3some == 2 which I also highlighted in your post above, is this check associated with IanxAlisonxJeremy threesome or BIllyxAlisonxJeremy threesome? If it is associated with BIllyxAlisonxJeremy than I'm right that without Ian she can also go on bimbo route.

 

[BlandChili]

Well, it's going to have impact for those who went for this option, i don't think there's anything wrong with it or that it makes it any lesser.

Just like Lena cheating on Ian only has impact for those who had Lena/Ian relationship and chose for Lena to cheat on Ian.

Yeah you're right, everything can't be relevant to every player anyway after all.

Your example isn't a good one for me though since I don't view anything in Ian and Lena's relationship as at all impactful anyway. Since you control both perspectives I think their pairing is devoid of dramatic pacing.

 

[MF_DOOM]

Mike being Gillians boyfriend at this stage is mandantory, everything else would suck from a writing standpoint.

That's definitely not true, this town already feels like it has 50 people living in it, more of the same shit get old really fast.

 

[| Vee |]

Other than Mike, another candidate which is probable, I believe EK included Jack for a reason and that is as Gillian(Chameleon's) boyfriend.
EK may have not included Jack just to cater fetishists but for "OH" moment! Bcz at this point everyone is damn sure Mike is Gillian(Chameleon's) boyfriend.

 

[ffive]

Your example isn't a good one for me though since I don't view anything in Ian and Lena's relationship as at all impactful anyway. Since you control both perspectives I think their pairing is devoid of dramatic pacing.

To each their own :> I like Lena/Ian because with having control over actions of both parties it's very easy to shape a narrative that you want, out of many many possible variations. And i can't help but approach these games mainly as a story-writing experience for made up people, rather than self-insert device.

 

[Gicoo]

Other than Mike, another candidate which is probable, I believe EK included Jack for a reason and that is as Gillian(Chameleon's) boyfriend.
EK may have not included Jack just to cater fetishists but for "OH" moment! Bcz at this point everyone is damn sure Mike is Gillian(Chameleon's) boyfriend.

Jack doesn't have girlfriends.

 

[ffive]

Also alison_jeremy_3some == 2 which I also highlighted in your post above, is this check associated with IanxAlisonxJeremy threesome or BIllyxAlisonxJeremy threesome?

It is for Ian/Alison/Jeremy. When i said that you're right Alison can enter bimbo route even without Ian, i was referring to her doing it when she and Ian didn't have any sort of sexual contact. But the catch is, even in that case she is doing it to attract Ian's attention... so one way or another Ian is always at the center of Alison's bimbofication.

 

[| Vee |]

Jack doesn't have girlfriends.

You talking about GGGB or ORS? Cause I didn't play Jack route's. Does Jack mentions this to Lena?

 

[Gicoo]

You talking about GGGB or ORS? Cause I didn't play Jack route's. Does Jack mentions this to Lena?

More like that he isn't the type to have one.